johnthebaptist Posted February 22, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 22, 2020 5 hours ago, dhchristian said: The whole book is about false teachers. perhaps you missed that? I've read the book of Jude several times. It doesn't say we should stand by and do nothing while false teachers lead our churches astray, I don't believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhchristian Posted February 22, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,488 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 1,325 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, johnthebaptist said: I've read the book of Jude several times. It doesn't say we should stand by and do nothing while false teachers lead our churches astray, I don't believe. That's right, it says contend for the faith, and "pull those who will listen out of the fire. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 25, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, charisenexcelsis said: Are they under authority? If the pastor will not listen to what you say, then go to the authority under which they serve. (On a side note, it sounded amusing that you had read Jude several times. ) Our bishop is a lesbian - I don't think that will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 25, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, charisenexcelsis said: Is your church going to go with the conservative group? So, here is my opinion: it is likely that the pastor and the congregation already know how you feel. If you cannot sit in peace under them, then leave and find another congregation. I'm not an expert on what is happening in the United Methodist Church. I think there are three groups. First there are liberals who want to leave the church. Then there are conservatives that want to leave the church. Then there are those of us who don't want to leave the church. Our current pastor (he's been with us for a little over a year and a half) is causing no problems. I see no sentiment in our church to leave the United Methodist Church. I do not want to find myself being run out of my church - I'd rather stand and fight, if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted February 25, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Godismyloveforever said: I'm very lost. How and when did this thread become about @johnthebaptist 's church????? I don't know. I just roll with the punches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky and George Posted February 26, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 168 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 394 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 197 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/26/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/28/1983 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Guys be nice to each other please. Jesus would be grumpy wumps you know. Write down a list of stuff you need to do with numbers for each item for priority. My Worthy account has been hacked btw. I have changed my password now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 9:08 AM, johnthebaptist said: What do you do when your pastor is leading your congregation astray? This is a good question. For me and my wife, we leave the congregation. There's too much pride in some ministers to see and acknowledge their errors. That's been my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted March 5, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Just now, Saved.One.by.Grace said: This is a good question. For me and my wife, we leave the congregation. There's too much pride in some ministers to see and acknowledge their errors. That's been my experience. I love my church. I think staying and fighting is a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: I love my church. I think staying and fighting is a good choice. The Bible is clear on dealing with correcting error amongst its members, and the teachings of false teachers and teachings in the church. Tolerance of false teachers and teachings is not recommended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted March 5, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.29 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted March 5, 2020 39 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said: The Bible is clear on dealing with correcting error amongst its members, and the teachings of false teachers and teachings in the church. Tolerance of false teachers and teachings is not recommended. It isn't a single church issue. There is a war going on in the United Methodist Church regarding homosexuality. The conservatives got their way in the special church conference held a year ago. Now some churches want to leave the United Methodist Church, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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