Coliseum Posted October 22, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 1,123 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 2,055 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) On 9/27/2020 at 2:39 AM, Melinda12 said: Mine is. My brothers are stone hearted atheists. I cannot bear their company and we generally find life a lot easier to keep well away from each other. They pour scorn on me being a Christian and treat me as if i am simple in the head I know i must pray for them. I do, daily. A few times i tried to tell them but am always met with a brick wall. I always feel derailed and awful inside after any contact with them. The only thing that connects us is that we have to cooperate in order to take care of our elderly ailing parents. When they are gone i look forward to never seeing my brothers again. Sadly. I have tried but accept failure. We truly cannot get on and have nothing else in common. Is it ok to pray for people you do not like and yet ask God to keep them away from you? It really bothers me. Hi Melinda. Having been a hard-hearted atheist myself once, for twenty years, I know all the lines. I used them. But it does not matter. Every person wants to be loved no matter how tough he pretends his shield is. He may act as if it isn't true, but there are hardened criminals on Death Row who in tears have come to Christ. One of the greatest testimonies was of a man I knew at work---a Christian. I mocked him, I threw insults at him. I told him how worthless Christianity was and his god. I know that deep down he was hurt, but I didn't care. Yet, he never lost his testimony. He kept his cool as he endured it all. He remembered Jesus, who also endured it all. When the time was right and God saved me, I remembered Charlie. He was the first man I saw to apologize. He embraced me. Charlie was the only Christian at our workplace. He was teased, and jeered, and spoken to harshly. In the back of my mind, I could not understand how he could have possibly endured it. Now, I know. He didn't. It was Christ in him that once again, took it all. Paul said best. To paraphrase---"I don't care what you think of me. I don't even care what I think of myself. It only matters what God thinks of me." Don't give up, sister. God knows the price you are paying; it won't be in vain. Edited October 22, 2020 by Coliseum 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leah777 Posted October 22, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,156 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 hours ago, JohnR7 said: I think Cancer comes from unresolved conflict within a person. all cancer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leah777 Posted October 22, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,156 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Josheb said: So it should be surprising to see a link between psyc trauma and cancer. I am confused as your previous words indicate that it would not be surprising. I have a book called The Body Keeps the Score. It goes into trauma causing illnesses of a long term nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted October 22, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,330 Content Per Day: 7.11 Reputation: 13,356 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicken coop2 said: I have suffered from very severe fibromyalgia for over 40 years. When I first started seeing doctors I had all the symptoms and had discovered all of the tender points. The word fibromyalgia didn't even exist yet. They doctors all thought it was imagination except for a few who said it was some type of rheumatism and prescribed various anti inflammatory medications which did nothing to help. Today they know that I have fibromyalgia. That said, I was a child victim of very bad physical, sexual and psychological abuse. Research is now showing a positive correlation between such experiences and development of fibromyalgia. At the same time my fibromyalgia symptoms started, I also developed very bad chemical sensitivity. Just a slight whiff of a parfum or an artificial fragrance and my face turns bright red and instant migraine. There is also research showing a correlation between chemical sensitivity and childhood abuse. I developed the same sensitivity to chemical substances only in my case, I feel faint and experience the very strange sensation of what I can only describe as "mini blackouts." Hindsight informs me this is a type of seizure. Gasoline makes me feel ill and leaves me with a massive headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leah777 Posted October 22, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,156 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2020 I also have sensitivities and illnesses/long term issues due to childhood abuse and violent first marriage. This is why I dont like to separate mental health and physical health, as we are an entire body, and what happens to us affects all of our physical functions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted October 22, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,126 Content Per Day: 9.66 Reputation: 13,663 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2020 While I don't doubt some connection- I believe there's a Bible verse somewhere about feeling down affects the body. Can't remember it right off the bat. In the case of cancer though it's a many faceted subject with lots of factors that can contribute. I see emotion, life outlook, past trauma as affecting the body in general so I would go along with this, but to say it's the main contributor might be a stretch. My doctor ( who is a cancer specialist) told me that genetics has been found to play a role and they want my genetics to use as a way to track how they tie in together. Cells replicate normally under a checks and balances. Badly replicated cells are "kicked out" by scouting defender cells. If this process can't be kept after by the body, then these rogue cells begin to multiply into tumors. The rogue cells seem to have the ability to camouflage themselves to appear as normal cells in some peoples bodies. That way they aren't attacked and destroyed, or in some cases, the cell growth gets so large the body just can't defend it. Healthy cells are the main thing. If you have some kind of a genetic mutation either through heredity or exposure to toxic chemicals or radiation, it affects your cell replication and/or bodies ability to defend against it. The body can begin to make cancer cells instead of healthy cells.. Cancer isn't really an outside thing, it's the body's cells leaving their main functions or doing something they shouldn't be doing. Eating lots of sugar or fat in your diet can make for weakened cells. Not getting enough exercise can contribute. Getting older means your body's cells are not as resilient as they once were. Some people will be more predisposed to cancer because of their genetics. ROGUE CELLS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR7 Posted October 22, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,907 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 614 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/06/1952 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, leah777 said: all cancer? I do not do that much research because cancer responds so well to prayer. It is your own body at odds with itself and not so much from a foreign invader like a virus or bacteria. There are known carcinogens and risk factors we need to be careful with. We can not put God to the test. Prayer can be tricky though because we have to have faith to believe to receive our request. So it can be easier to pray for others then to pray for ourselves. Also sometimes we need two or three to be in agreement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leah777 Posted October 22, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,156 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/09/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Starise said: While I don't doubt some connection- I believe there's a Bible verse somewhere about feeling down affects the body. Can't remember it right off the bat. In the case of cancer though it's a many faceted subject with lots of factors that can contribute. I see emotion, life outlook, past trauma as affecting the body in general so I would go along with this, but to say it's the main contributor might be a stretch. My doctor ( who is a cancer specialist) told me that genetics has been found to play a role and they want my genetics to use as a way to track how they tie in together. Cells replicate normally under a checks and balances. Badly replicated cells are "kicked out" by scouting defender cells. If this process can't be kept after by the body, then these rogue cells begin to multiply into tumors. The rogue cells seem to have the ability to camouflage themselves to appear as normal cells in some peoples bodies. That way they aren't attacked and destroyed, or in some cases, the cell growth gets so large the body just can't defend it. Healthy cells are the main thing. If you have some kind of a genetic mutation either through heredity or exposure to toxic chemicals or radiation, it affects your cell replication and/or bodies ability to defend against it. The body can begin to make cancer cells instead of healthy cells.. Cancer isn't really an outside thing, it's the body's cells leaving their main functions or doing something they shouldn't be doing. Eating lots of sugar or fat in your diet can make for weakened cells. Not getting enough exercise can contribute. Getting older means your body's cells are not as resilient as they once were. Some people will be more predisposed to cancer because of their genetics. ROGUE CELLS Sorry if I was unclear. My meaning is that illness or abuse weakens us, so if Cancer comes, our bodies have a harder job to fight it. In August and September this year I lost three loved ones to cancer. I praise God for specialists like your father. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted October 22, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,330 Content Per Day: 7.11 Reputation: 13,356 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, leah777 said: I also have sensitivities and illnesses/long term issues due to childhood abuse and violent first marriage. This is why I dont like to separate mental health and physical health, as we are an entire body, and what happens to us affects all of our physical functions. I agree wholeheartedly. I've witnessed what constant pain, illness, as well as abuse and neglect can do to a human being. I'll share the work of Christ in opening my eyes and illuminating my heart with Truth, beginning in earnest when He baptized me in His Spirit. Nothing was the same after that day. It started with my adopted mother, the woman whom I encountered in the wilderness years ago. It's true that I placed myself between her and the gun of a wicked man who had done unspeakable things to her, but there's more to what transpired in that desolate place. She in turn kept me when I had nowhere to go nor rest my head, caring for me when I was sick and dying. She clothed me, fed me, worried about me, and loved me like her own. She was wounded not only by what she endured by my side but by what that depraved man did to her... by other men like him who did terrible things to her... and even by her own family of flesh and blood. She endured more than most. The Lord loves her more deeply than my words can do justice, just as He loves all who suffer in this world. God raised me up in time to keep her when she was sick, stricken by cancer, and blessed me with the honor of caring for her needs just as she had cared for mine. We grew close and so I learned of those things which she suffered in this life, things which were hard to bear and tore at my heart. I stood by while constant pain and illness changed her personality. There were times when I wanted nothing more than to run away but the Lord constrained me, revealing the truth of what was happening to my dear friend. Yes, it was my duty in Jesus Christ to stand as her son and love her in a way that no other had loved her: unconditionally. When she lashed out I bore the blows; when she railed against me I didn't respond, calmly informing her that I was going nowhere. Where she was there I would be, whether that was in her house or the hospital ICU. Not long before she passed from this world the work of Christ in her heart was revealed when one day, she rose from her bed to approach me in tears. She embraced me with all of her might and proclaimed, "I know beyond the shadow of a doubt that you love me." This was a mighty work indeed. Her wounds ran deep. After her passing, the revelation continued when my mother of flesh and blood was brought to my awareness by the Lord. I remembered those things which I had forgotten in my own pain: how she was not only brutalized by my own father but how she was beaten mercilessly by her father. She suffered from various ailments and in light of these truths I marveled at how this woman was able to hold it together, being a good mother to us when we were small children. Changes started taking place after we passed from early childhood into our teens. I wept because I wasn't able to be there for her like I had been for the woman who became my adopted mother; bitterness against me and my youngest sister consumed our mother and so we were forbidden from visiting her in hospice. My mother had lung cancer. Yes, I repented of the resentment I fostered against her memory and so I was finally able to forgive my mother for her part in what we endured in that home. Abuse is a cycle and it must come to an end... and it will in Christ Jesus who redeems us all. Edited October 22, 2020 by Marathoner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted October 22, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,330 Content Per Day: 7.11 Reputation: 13,356 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) Oops, quoted mistakenly. Edited October 22, 2020 by Marathoner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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