Sparks Posted March 29, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,159 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 2,513 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/20/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: Why do we assume that God made everything new? I guess since God said He did it that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted March 29, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sparks said: I guess since God said He did it that way? God never said he made it brand new, He just said he made it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted March 29, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,159 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 2,513 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/20/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: God never said he made it brand new, He just said he made it. So, He used some old stale junk parts? Why would God even have do that? He spoke the universe into existence, so there is no need to go to a used universe lot, and recycle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted March 29, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Sparks said: So, He used some old stale junk parts? Why would God even have do that? He spoke the universe into existence, so there is no need to go to a used universe lot, and recycle it. The point being He CREATED the earth Old....God doesn't use ANY parts. He speaks and it is. The earth being 4 billions years old made it perfect to sustain life This is God we are talking about, time to think outside the box (of our comprehension) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted March 29, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,874 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Riverwalker said: God never said he made it brand new, He just said he made it. Good point neither after the flood, plants carried on olive branch etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted March 29, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,159 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 2,513 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/20/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Riverwalker said: The point being He CREATED the earth Old....God doesn't use ANY parts. He speaks and it is. The earth being 4 billions years old made it perfect to sustain life This is God we are talking about, time to think outside the box (of our comprehension) If you are trying to make a case for the Teleological Argument, it certainly would not be that He created things old. He simply created everything to allow life here. Which is more likely? That God made things old, or that scientists have no idea how to date the Earth and claim the Earth is old, when it isn't? There is no evidence of an old Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted March 29, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.09 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Sparks said: I spent quite some time on this thread showing it fails. See the burning Candle problem in this thread. My apologies, I have not read the entire thread. Would you mind summarizing why you think radiometric dating is wrong? I would be happy to discuss irreducible complexity with you in another thread that does not get off track from the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted March 29, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sparks said: If you are trying to make a case for the Teleological Argument, it certainly would not be that He created things old. He simply created everything to allow life here. Which is more likely? That God made things old, or that scientists have no idea how to date the Earth and claim the Earth is old, when it isn't? There is no evidence of an old Earth. I am not deep into theological labels, Looking at the situation such as fossils, which make no sense unless God decided to give the earth a history (since He created it old) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwalker Posted March 29, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,054 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 1,753 Days Won: 4 Joined: 12/09/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, one.opinion said: My apologies, I have not read the entire thread. Would you mind summarizing why you think radiometric dating is wrong? I would be happy to discuss irreducible complexity with you in another thread that does not get off track from the OP. Oh I think that train left the station long ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted March 29, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,159 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 2,513 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/20/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 29, 2021 Just now, one.opinion said: My apologies, I have not read the entire thread. Would you mind summarizing why you think radiometric dating is wrong? In short, it's calibration issues. While you do have very accurate half-lives on methods like Uranium-lead, Rubidium-strontium, Fission track dating, Radiocarbon dating, Samarium-neodymium dating among others, you cannot calibrate your instruments for dating, nor can you correctly convert an isotope value to a time. 3 minutes ago, one.opinion said: I would be happy to discuss irreducible complexity with you in another thread that does not get off track from the OP. I have already answered this on-topic question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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