Was the flood a worldwide flood or a flood of the known world?

[Still Alive]

2 minutes ago, Arrabon said:

@Still Alive

WELLLLLLLLLL.. this is where we take a "fork in the road" my friend.

For me, the KEY POINT is that "GOD wrote the bible through men", and the bible was written for ALL MANKIND, not just for men of their day.

Was Jesus just for men of their day??????????????

Either the bible in it's themes are ALL timeless, or we are all fools for believing.

I'm talking strictly about the scientific ramifications. He didn't impart 24th century scientific knowledge on any writers of the bible or any writers today. Future readers need to consume it within that context.

My point is simply that the bible is not a science book. And if we discover things that absolutely prove that the flood was worldwide - or was NOT worldwide - one side of this thing has to either admit they were wrong or go into cognitive dissidence mode and try to defend the indefensible. That is never a good look, no matter who is wearing it.

In the meantime, as far as I'm concerned, it covered the "whole earth", depending on what the author meant by that phrase.

[Still Alive]

5 minutes ago, Sparks said:

I didn't say there were no mountains before the flood but that God reshaped the Earth, which was under water, at the time.   If the water from the flood is still here today, then we would still be under water, until God reshaped the world.

Also, know that the highest mountains of today would have caused a problem for a world-wide flood because of heat (called the latent heat of condensation).   The rain didn't cover Mt. Everest, at the time, because Mt. Everest was made after the flood, and had the water covered the world including Mt. Everest, there would have been a super heat issue.

I think there is a reason we have a continental shelf...

[PeterR]

1 hour ago, Still Alive said:

Nothing I disagree with there.  I was actually discussing this very scripture earlier on another site. Here is my post on it: https://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3962881/posts?page=51#51

Here is the actual content of my post there:

 

“All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”

That is an English translation of Koine Greek. It was penned before the New Testament existed. It was a letter to timothy and I agree with what it says. And at the time that was written the old testament that was commonly used by the writers of the time was the Septuagint, which contains many books we don’t have in our modern Old Testament.

They also quoted 1 Enoch a LOT: 

http://alaskandreams.net/ekklesia/Book%20of%20Enoch%20NT%20Verses.htm

Is 1 Enoch scripture? What does the word “scripture” actually mean? And what does the phrase “God Breathed” actually mean?

I interpret the above scripture to be telling timothy, “God inspired the writers of the ancient books. Read them. Understand what they are saying. It will help teach you truth, enable you to clearly expose lies, correct your misconceptions, and it will teach you what is righteous, enabling you, as a child of God to be fully prepared to do, in every situation, what is the best course of action at that time.”

It’s not talking about what we, today, call our English language bibles specifically, though I think they fall into the whole concept.

However, I don’t worry about what Paul said about hair length in the same way a lot of people do. And I don’t think I should: https://brendansaltvick.wordpress.com/2017/07/28/why-1-corinthians-11-is-talking-about-covering-your-genitals-not-your-head/

Thank you, but I will not take your advice. The Lord is my shepherd. His Word lasts forever. That's why I have given this second verse as well.
So again, you tell some fairy tales.

Edited May 27, 2021 by PeterR

[Still Alive]

Here is a fun one. It is impossible for a living thing to fly under its own power beyond a weight of around 40 lbs, yet we have the remains of animals over 200 lbs that scientists say were flying creatures. So, how is that possible? One solution is a much denser atmosphere. Another is a lower gravitational pull. But nobody really knows. 

Like much of the stuff discussed about this and other "biblical" topics, it's interesting to explore, but it doesn't affect my acceptance of the blood of Christ.

[Still Alive]

1 minute ago, PeterR said:

Thank you, but I will not take your advice. The Lord is my shepherd. His Word lasts forever. That's why I have given this second verse as well.
So again, you tell some fairy tales.

We actually agree, except for that last part.

[Arrabon]

2 minutes ago, Still Alive said:

it doesn't affect my acceptance of the blood of Christ.

@Still Alive

AMEN brother!!!!!!!

[PeterR]

2 hours ago, Still Alive said:

with another solid world above it held up by pillars we call mountains. 

This is not in Scripture. But if I am wrong please give the verse.

[Still Alive]

3 minutes ago, PeterR said:

This is not in Scripture. But if I am wrong please give the verse.

I'm talking about the interpretation of what it says. And I already gave one verse I'm talking about. 

It's all about firmament as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament

 

[PeterR]

4 minutes ago, Still Alive said:

I'm talking about the interpretation of what it says. And I already gave one verse I'm talking about. 

It's all about firmament as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament

 

I thought you were talking about solid world above it

[Arrabon]

It's getting TOO DEEP for me and I can't swim .