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  1. Still Alive

    Abuse, Not just Catholics

    I agree with both your post and the post you are responding to. I see them as related, but different.
  2. Still Alive

    AW Tozer Willful Sinning No Sacrifice

    Exactly! They didn't like the points I was making and failed miserably at arguing them. My MO is to be polite, but firm. No Ad-hominem, no deflection, no projection (at least,not intentionally).
  3. Still Alive

    AW Tozer Willful Sinning No Sacrifice

    I don't know if this site allows you to comment on the administration of other sites so I'll just say this: Same thing happened to me. And I was banned for useing the "haha" button on posts that were deemed "not meant to be funny". And I only did it twice, and one of those times I honestly thought the guy was trying to be funny."Goading" is their catch-all excuse. They would never allow a "huh" or "oy-vey" button there.
  4. Still Alive

    AW Tozer Willful Sinning No Sacrifice

    Heh. I rarely use my cell phone for this. It's just too difficult. On a related note, I was on a site I've been a member of good standing on since 1998 and, for the first time, using my cell phone to post. I was being unintentionally cryptic in my posts because I just didn't want to do a lot of typing. I said something that was misunderstood by someone important and permanently banned. I learned my lesson from that one...
  5. Still Alive

    AW Tozer Willful Sinning No Sacrifice

    You connected that to me. I think you meant to connect it to Discipler777. And I completely agree with you. In fact, I use the book of Acts a lot when asking myself, "As Christians, how should we be spreading the gospel, doing church, etc." Edit: I see that line was in his post that I said I agreed with. Well, I was agreeing with a general point he made using all that scripture, in context of my point he was responding to. Regarding that line, I suppose that since they were Jesus' own words, it would be hard to disagree with it. But then the question is, what exactly does one mean when they say they agree with it. And to that end, I've said for decades that Christianity is about faith, but not BLIND faith. Blind faith is just stupidity revealed.
  6. Still Alive

    AW Tozer Willful Sinning No Sacrifice

    I guess it depends on the meaning of the word "you" in the context and who the audience was. If a wise man writes a long letter to his son that is stuffed with wisdom and constantly says "you can learn from this", he is addressing his son. When his son publishes that letter as "wisdom" and sells it far and wide, all who read it can gain wisdom from the letter, and even interpret it as useful for any who read it. In fact, it was published "for" us - those who read it. But it was written TO his son. It's really that simple. It was written to those alive at the time, and in a language and form that they would understand, but it is there for all of us to read and interpret the best we can. And when done prayerfully, it's pretty effective. In fact, it is "useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness".
  7. Still Alive

    AW Tozer Willful Sinning No Sacrifice

    Exactly! (and thanks for keeping it short. I actually read it.)
  8. Still Alive

    Abuse, Not just Catholics

    I've noticed a common human trait (and yes, I see it in myself) of noticing and complaining about the sins of others while ignoring our own, at least publicly. I see the whole catholic priest / young boy thing as a risk revealed when you seek leaders willing to abide by the rules they have for those leaders. It's why I don't condemn homosexuals any more than heterosexuals that are sleeping around. My main beef with homosexuals from a cultural perspective is that they have pride in their sins. You don't see a "fornicator's Pride" parade or a "wife beater's pride" parade. As far as salvation is concerned, sin is sin. However, all sin affects you one way or another and you may pay the price. Cheating on your spouse is bad and will have consequences. Robbing a bank is bad and will have different consequences. And then there is rape, incest, alcoholism, gossip, gluttony, you name it. And yes, I do find it comical to see a hugely fat man, from the pulpit, condemn men that have an occasional beer. But I just see that guy as an overt example of what we all do if we are not careful. And remember, God made us this way. Telling Adam to not eat of the fruit of the tree was like putting a Lion in the garden, tying a lamb to the tree and then telling the lion he could eat whatever he wanted, but don't touch the lamb. Lion's gonna do what lion's do. Same thing with man. So, in the words of Paul, "O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin." I don't know WHY God created us this way, but he did. So we struggle, every day - not for salvation, which we have through the blood of Christ - but to work diligently to please our father, knowing that he understands our struggle and is overflowing with mercy and compassion. I get the feeling he has something very big planned for us after we leave this earthly "tent". Otherwise, what's the point?
  9. Still Alive

    AW Tozer Willful Sinning No Sacrifice

    You are posting a lot of scripture out of context, discipler, and here is my problem with these sorts of posts: The main thing they demonstrate is that taken out of context, the bible appears to be hopelessly contradictory. I can show you scriptures that say all men are saved (to the casual reader). I can show you others that say that works don't save, and others that say that works DO save - to the casual reader. The important thing to think about is that not a single word of scripture was written to you or me. Not one. Rather, they were written to the men to whom they were addressed at the time. However, it is all there FOR us to learn from. None of einstein's notes were written to anyone alive today, but they are highly valuable to us. This is why so much of scripture, from a 21st century viewpoint, is so cryptic. There are so many figures of speech, so many times the author is responding to things unsaid, yet everyone living at the time knew exactly what the author was talking about. It's why it takes several lifetimes to fully understand scripture. And since nobody lives several lifetimes, nobody fully understands it. Nobody. So we muddle through, prayerfully, knowing that now we see as through a glass darkly, but then, face to face. However, there are some things we CAN know. e.g. He chooses us. He is merciful. None of us deserve eternal life nor will ever deserve it, Jesus and God are one. Jesus died as the perfect sacrifice for the sins of all men. Etc. The rest of it is a constant path of discovery. And one thing I've learned since first accepting his free gift is that one of the wisest things I've ever read was this: "We don't know what we don't know." We are like my dog trying to figure out why, five out of every seven days, I leave for about 9 hours and then come back. To him it makes no sense and there is no way I could explain it to him to where he would understand. This is what a lot of our searching is like. Not all of it. Pursuing righteousness and a better understanding of our creator is always a good thing. But constant arguments about the end times prophesy, the amount of time God took to create our earth, etc. is an exercise in futility and totally irrelevant to salvation and his message. And here's an exciting secret: When we prayerfully read His words and put our life in his hands, an interesting things happens. We begin to "know him" better and better. This, oddly, remarkably aids in understanding the words in the bible. When you know someone, you know what comments and claims about them are true, which ones are not, and how to understand "figures of speech" used to describe them. But I go forward always reminding myself that I don't know what I don't know.
  10. Still Alive

    AW Tozer Willful Sinning No Sacrifice

    We are in agreement. It is why I say we don't choose him. He chooses us. And the reference to Pharaoh in Romans nine touches on this. Also, Matthew 11:21 comes to mind in the context of his choosing us: “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had happened in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. " And then add to that, 1 Timothy 2:3-4: This is good and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. So, in 1 Timothy we have God desiring that all men are saved and come to the knowledge of the truth, yet in Matthew 11:21 he says that if he had done in Tyre and Sidon what was done in Behsaida, they WOULD have repented. If his desire is that all are saved, why didn't he do those miracles in Tyre and Sidon? I'm not judging God. Rather, I'm trying to come to an understanding of what all those scriptures actually mean. So far the only solution my meager human mind can come up with (until God gives me a divine revelation) is that there is some "future age" where they are all saved, since that is, in fact, his desire. And this ties into the concept the we don't choose him, but he chooses us. In my mind, it's a mess in so far as I don't think anyone has it right yet. It is a huge mystery.
  11. Still Alive

    Abuse, Not just Catholics

    Did you mean to post that to me? I'm not following the relevance.
  12. Still Alive

    AW Tozer Willful Sinning No Sacrifice

    This reminds me of what I say to people that are afraid they have committed the unpardonable sin (and it hints at what I think it is) - If you are afraid you have committed it, then you haven't.
  13. Who gets to choose where? I confess I am in the majority that the parable of Lazarus and the rich man IS a parable, but some disagree
  14. Still Alive

    AW Tozer Willful Sinning No Sacrifice

    I use the Peter vs Judas example a lot. They both abandoned Christ. The life saving difference is not about what they did. It is about their response to what they did. Judas was overehelmed with guilt and apparently did not repent. Peter was convicted and he repented. If Judas had repented I would expect to see him in eternity. I've said for a long time that all human beings have the same lifespan, and we even have a word for it: "Today". Today I am forgiven. Today I am saved. Today I need the blood of Christ. And I can go forward with confidence knowing I am his and that though everything is permissible, not everything is profitable. Sure, I disobey "dad" from time to time, and it pains me that I do. I completely sympathize with Paul when he said he does the things he does not want to, and doesn't do the things he should. And like him, I am very thankful that Jesus saved me from this wretched body in which I was placed - by him.
  15. It boils down to this: Science is about how (how the universe and everything in it works). Religion is about why (why the universe and everything in it is here). The writers of the books of both testaments, but especially the old, believed some whacky stuff about the cosmos and it showed up in the way they wrote. God was fine with it because those to whom it was written understood what they were saying. They were being no more "scientific" than I am when I say the sun sets in the west. It doesn't set. That is just what it looks like it is doing.
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