Sparks Posted December 9, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,159 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 2,513 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/20/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, one.opinion said: Well, ok... obviously biogenesis is not an issue, then. It's not an issue unless you want to claim that evolution theory is true. As I said, these are laws and rules that would have to be broken for evolution theory to be true. The biggest issues with God guiding evolution is that 1), he never said he started life out via evolution nor did he pause in any way to allow it, and 2) you have never observed what you think you have observed, today (it is 100% theory), and 3) God told you exactly what he did and it wasn't shaking out a pack of sea monkeys into some water and waiting millions of years to see what will happen. I am not sure what you mean by your Gospel statement since we disagree about what the Gospel says, often, including in Genesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted December 9, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.09 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sparks said: I am not sure what you mean by your Gospel statement This is what Paul says about the Gospel in 1 Corinthians 15. The need for this Gospel and the first promise of its coming is delivered in Genesis 1-3. We may disagree about the particular details of Genesis 1-3, but we also agree on the most important points. God is Creator. Humans are contaminated by sin and are separated from God. God has a plan to offer restoration and reconciliation to Him through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AandW_Rootbeer Posted December 9, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 586 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 167 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/10/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, one.opinion said: This is what Paul says about the Gospel in 1 Corinthians 15. The need for this Gospel and the first promise of its coming is delivered in Genesis 1-3. We may disagree about the particular details of Genesis 1-3, but we also agree on the most important points. God is Creator. Humans are contaminated by sin and are separated from God. God has a plan to offer restoration and reconciliation to Him through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. As much as I agree with this, what if by promoting Science has the Answers to explain Genesis Chapters 1 and 2, causes those undecided, to ultimately refuse God over Science because a Believer in God is promoting Science explains the truth about God's Creation? Now, under that circumstance, we [are not] the same Believers, we are now unequally yoked. And Christ said it would be better to have a millstone attached to us and drown us to cause anyone to find reason to Deny God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted December 10, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,159 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 2,513 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/20/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, one.opinion said: This is what Paul says about the Gospel in 1 Corinthians 15. The need for this Gospel and the first promise of its coming is delivered in Genesis 1-3. We may disagree about the particular details of Genesis 1-3, but we also agree on the most important points. God is Creator. Humans are contaminated by sin and are separated from God. God has a plan to offer restoration and reconciliation to Him through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. So, you don't only believe theological evolution is true, but also the Gap theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted December 10, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,082 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 974 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, AandW_Rootbeer said: In terms of Evolving into a newer Species for [[SURVIVAL]] or Adaption, all it has is INTENT! No. Neither organisms nor populations intend to evolve. That's clearly wrong. 2 hours ago, AandW_Rootbeer said: So, you are trying to add Murder to God's Creation whether you accept it or not. Perhaps you don't understand what "murder" means. In fact, it usually doesn't involve one organism killing another. It's normally a competition for resources or mating competition. Indeed, there are instances where predation can actually benefit a population being preyed on. Would you like to learn about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted December 10, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.09 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Sparks said: So, you don't only believe theological evolution is true, but also the Gap theory? I didn’t discuss the gap theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted December 10, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,159 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 2,513 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/20/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, one.opinion said: I didn’t discuss the gap theory. No, you mentioned Genesis 1-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted December 10, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.09 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, Sparks said: No, you mentioned Genesis 1-3. I did. I still didn’t say anything about gap theory. I’m not sure why you are making that assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted December 10, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.09 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, AandW_Rootbeer said: what if by promoting Science has the Answers to explain Genesis Chapters 1 and 2, causes those undecided, to ultimately refuse God over Science because a Believer in God is promoting Science explains the truth about God's Creation? What if, by telling our young people that evolution is a hoax without any evidence, they naturally wonder what else they were told about Christianity when they learn the truth? 2 hours ago, AandW_Rootbeer said: Christ said it would be better to have a millstone attached to us and drown us to cause anyone to find reason to Deny God. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted December 10, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,159 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 2,513 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/20/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2021 45 minutes ago, one.opinion said: I did. I still didn’t say anything about gap theory. I’m not sure why you are making that assumption. Because that's where the gap theory allegedly happened. I would think you are not a Gap theory believer, if you are not aware of this, but they believe the evolutionary part you believe in, too. Genesis 1:1-3 (KJV) 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. (GAP THEORY HERE) 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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