Guest yod Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 This is a thought I had that I checked with others. I know it kind of sounds weird, and I can anticipate the protests I could get, but here goes anyway. . . . What if it's God's mercy? I mean, this showed how unprepared our emergency response team/ gov't/ etc. were to respond to such a massive disaster. So, what if the Lord allowed-caused the destruction of one city to prepare us for the worse thing that's down the pike. I know that sounds weird, but. . . . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you might have swerved into the problem I'm having communicating my thoughts on this I see absolutely no contradiction in saying it was BOTH judgement and mercy. I see absolutely no contradiction in saying it was the worst disaster of all time in America and the best thing that has happened since the Jesus Movement of the 60s I see absolutely no contradiction in saying America is the worst nation (morally) and the best nation in the world. But I forget that the hellenistic mind has problems grasping that concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giaour Posted September 8, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 179 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,941 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/08/1964 Share Posted September 8, 2005 America is the worst nation morally? Shall we debate the facts here? This is an absurd statement and I find it totally offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcom Posted September 9, 2005 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 31 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/06/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2005 okay....I'll try it again.......thanks for sharing, Spock. You may be interested in reading the Worldnetdaily article re: Rabbi's comparing/connecting the US support of the Gaza pull-out and Katrina. (It's right now linked to the michael savage web site too) I hope the contraversy you stirred doesn't discourage you........I'm very happy for you your relationship with Lord Jesus is so very strong. Bless you friend. Your friend in Christ, dotcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted September 9, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I see absolutely no contradiction in saying it was BOTH judgement and mercy. Yeah - it's amazing how God can do that, huh? America is the worst nation morally? Shall we debate the facts here? This is an absurd statement and I find it totally offensive. I don't know if this means anything or not, but if you've seen Yod posting in other threads, he's as pro-American as anyone can be. Can you re-read his statement from that perspective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yod Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 America is the worst nation morally? Shall we debate the facts here? This is an absurd statement and I find it totally offensive. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so? Do you get out of the country very often? The American entertainment industry has made the world drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gladiator4God Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 thanks for sharing Spock there's an article in Worldnetdaily that Rabbi's tie the storm to US support of the Gaza pull-out.....more coincidences??.....check it out......... your friend in Christ dotcom I didn't think the pull out was right but now we're just getting looney. That assertion is beyond ridiculous. Come on!!!!If God want's to punish someone for anti-Semitism you think he would start with the whole Muslim world and then much of Europe. Its silly to go around labeling every bad thing that happens as the "Wrath of God". It was just a bad storm people...deal with it. Its happened before and it will happen again. Its called weather. This is nutty! Opps.... I gotta go...there a UFO landing in my back yard. There out there!! Dan <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i agree it was just a bad storm.........instead of dwelling on this lets get to helping them get on their feet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catsmeow Posted September 9, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 439 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 7,315 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 356 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/21/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2005 Any time in the Bible that God brought judgement upon a place there was total destruction (Lot and Noah) he warned the righteous beforehand and got them completely out before the destruction hit. I have not heard of anyone getting such a warning or word BEFORE the hurricane. Also God always destroyed totally when he brought about these judgements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VRSpock Posted September 9, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 304 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/24/1971 Author Share Posted September 9, 2005 I see absolutely no contradiction in saying it was BOTH judgement and mercy. Amen. I have to agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joy in the Journey Posted September 9, 2005 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 477 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/17/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2005 I asked this question in a different thread, but I'll ask it here too - how large does a "catastrophe" have to be before it's considered "the wrath of God" ? 10 people ? 100 people ? A small city ? A large city ? How about deaths ? 1 ? 10 ? 100 ? 1000 ? 10,000 ? Would a windstorm that blows a tree over onto a family of 6 whilst driving down the motorway be a "freak of nature" or God's wrath on that family ( and an example the the rest of the nation they live in ) ? Honestly- where does one draw the line ? When does a natural disaster become "the wrath of God" ? If a bolt of lightning strikes a single house- is that an act of God's wrath or just nature being nature ? Just something I've been wondering for all those who say Katrina was God punishing America. "Disaster" is relative to those it affects...in my opinion at least. To that family in the house that got hit by lightning, it's a disaster- but to someone in a different country ( or even city ), would they even care unless they had interest in that home/family ? Probably not. So, when does a "disaster" change from being a simple act of nature to the "wrath of God" ? God bless, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted September 9, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted September 9, 2005 It's not about size or numbers. Each case has to be looked at on its own merits. Don't have time to delve into that right now, but wanted to share this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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