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On 10/2/2022 at 11:37 AM, missmuffet said:

 A born again Christian couple will have a very different approach than a secular couple. 

I am not so sure about that.  Modern-day churches folks who claim to be born-again, act just like the world.  Church divorce rate is on par with the rest of the world, church abortion rate is on par with world, adultery is on par with the world, sex before marriage is on par with world, etc...  Why would you think their relationship is any different from someone who claims to be born again?

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13 minutes ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

I am not so sure about that.  Modern-day churches folks who claim to be born-again, act just like the world.  Church divorce rate is on par with the rest of the world, church abortion rate is on par with world, adultery is on par with the world, sex before marriage is on par with world, etc...  Why would you think their relationship is any different from someone who claims to be born again?

There are people "who claim" to be a Christian but they are a counterfeit Christian. A born again Christian marriage should be very different than a couple who just claim to be a Christian and live a worldly life. God rules their marriage. 

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13 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

There are people "who claim" to be a Christian but they are a counterfeit Christian. A born again Christian marriage should be very different than a couple who just claim to be a Christian and live a worldly life. God rules their marriage. 

The problem is, is that you can't identify who is a born-again believer. People can and do make claims about themselves. 

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7 minutes ago, NCAP said:

The problem is, is that you can't identify who is a born-again believer. People can and do make claims about themselves. 

Yes, you can identify the by their actions. Don't believe what they say. 

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10 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Yes, you can identify the by their actions. Don't believe what they say. 

Agreed, faith with out evidence is false faith.  People that say they are born-again or think are born-again means absolutely noting with out fruit of evidence that proves it.

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. - 1Jo 2:3-4 KJV

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