FreeGrace Posted February 12, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,465 Content Per Day: 8.06 Reputation: 622 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 12, 2023 9 hours ago, abcdef said: History PROVES that the 4 nations that ruled over the children of Israel were Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome. It is not my "idea", but history that you should know and that the Bible itself shows. They were future when Daniel wrote them, but are now mostly history. OK. And none of this history has anything to do with end times. 9 hours ago, abcdef said: Is that what you have been taught to believe? That the Rev is all future? Wrong again. Rev 1:19 - “Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later. Past, present, and future. 9 hours ago, abcdef said: Sorry, but it is not. It contains much that has already come to pass by our time. Not all of it, but in our time most of it has. Right. So it's not relevant to end times. 9 hours ago, abcdef said: Including the trib, the times of the gentiles, that ended in 1967, and the MK that is just about to come to a close on this planet. The pretrib theory is full of holes that most people will not take the time to investigate. Where do you get that the times of the Gentiles ended in 1967? The 6 day war?? I agree that there will be no pretrib resurrection or trip to heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted February 12, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,465 Content Per Day: 8.06 Reputation: 622 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 12, 2023 8 hours ago, abcdef said: Ok then, please explain Isa 9:15. From v.8-21 is about the Lord's anger against Israel. v.14 says the Lord will cut off both the head and tail, which is explained in v.15. So what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted February 13, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 17 hours ago, FreeGrace said: From v.8-21 is about the Lord's anger against Israel. v.14 says the Lord will cut off both the head and tail, which is explained in v.15. So what. Zechariah 13:8-9KJV 8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. 9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted February 13, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,465 Content Per Day: 8.06 Reputation: 622 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2023 8 hours ago, truth7t7 said: FreeGrace said: From v.8-21 is about the Lord's anger against Israel. v.14 says the Lord will cut off both the head and tail, which is explained in v.15. So what. Zechariah 13:8-9KJV 8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. 9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdef Posted February 13, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,405 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 135 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/14/1951 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 5:12 AM, FreeGrace said: From v.8-21 is about the Lord's anger against Israel. v.14 says the Lord will cut off both the head and tail, which is explained in v.15. So what. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted February 13, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,465 Content Per Day: 8.06 Reputation: 622 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, abcdef said: FreeGrace said: From v.8-21 is about the Lord's anger against Israel. v.14 says the Lord will cut off both the head and tail, which is explained in v.15. So what. Have a nice day. OK, so no reason, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdef Posted February 13, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,405 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 135 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/14/1951 Share Posted February 13, 2023 3 hours ago, FreeGrace said: OK, so no reason, apparently. Yep, you've got it all figured out. You don't need my opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted February 13, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,465 Content Per Day: 8.06 Reputation: 622 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 13, 2023 3 hours ago, abcdef said: Yep, you've got it all figured out. You don't need my opinions. Well, I have enough figured out to know sequence or order of events. And correct, I'm not looking for opinions. Just clear Scripture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coheir Posted February 14, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,458 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 729 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/31/1950 Share Posted February 14, 2023 19 hours ago, truth7t7 said: Zechariah 13:8-9KJV 8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. 9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God This verse reminds of 1 Peter 1:7 And 1 Corinthians 3:13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdef Posted February 14, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,405 Content Per Day: 0.93 Reputation: 135 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/14/1951 Share Posted February 14, 2023 18 hours ago, FreeGrace said: Well, I have enough figured out to know sequence or order of events. And correct, I'm not looking for opinions. Just clear Scripture. Alright, I'm going to ask you a question that I have asked many. There is a statue in Dan 2, the statue of the gentile nations. The statue shows 4 nations, Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome. The statue shows that the iron begins with the legs, then has feet of iron and clay, then toes of iron and clay. After that, the stone strikes, the statue falls, and is no more. The statue is a timeline concerning the children of Israel and the gentile nations. --- The question is, Where are we presently in the Dan 2, statue timeline? Are we in the legs period? Toes Period? Or when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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