dad2 Posted April 15, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,523 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted April 15, 2023 3 hours ago, BeyondET said: Just like Moab huh.. Isaiah 16:6 We have heard of Moab's pomposity, his exceeding pride and conceit, his overflowing arrogance. But his boasting is empty. I see. And how does that random verse tell us clearly whether you believe God actually created the stars? Is it supposed to be conceited to ask you to be honest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted April 15, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,887 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 818 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted April 15, 2023 44 minutes ago, dad2 said: I see. And how does that random verse tell us clearly whether you believe God actually created the stars? Is it supposed to be conceited to ask you to be honest? Yes I believe God creates stars. Matthew 2:9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted April 15, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,523 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 minute ago, BeyondET said: Yes I believe God creates stars. Matthew 2:9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was. Me too. Specifically at creation week. Is this what you mean, rather than accepting the old ages evolution origin of stars that science has peddled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted April 15, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,887 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 818 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dad2 said: Me too. Specifically at creation week. Is this what you mean, rather than accepting the old ages evolution origin of stars that science has peddled? I believe God is always working, creating, even stars. His pace creating who knows? Edited April 15, 2023 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted April 15, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,523 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted April 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, BeyondET said: I believe God is always working, creating, even stars. His pace creating who knows? That does not address the main creation event, where the world and stars came to exist. In a similar way, people having babies now does not address the week of creation where the first man was created. Of course He created things to reproduce and etc. Yes there are also new things made since Adam's day. That does not tell us whether one believes in creation week as per Genesis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted April 15, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,887 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 818 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted April 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, dad2 said: That does not address the main creation event, where the world and stars came to exist. In a similar way, people having babies now does not address the week of creation where the first man was created. Of course He created things to reproduce and etc. Yes there are also new things made since Adam's day. That does not tell us whether one believes in creation week as per Genesis. If someone speaks of God being the agent of creation that's good enough rather they know what took place at each second of each minute to hour of creation. Yes He did let the creation bring forth reproduce as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted April 15, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,523 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted April 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, BeyondET said: If someone speaks of God being the agent of creation that's good enough rather they know what took place at each second of each minute to hour of creation. Yes He did let the creation bring forth reproduce as well. No. The creator. Not an agent. We do not need to know anything other than what He told us about the six days of creation. You see, people that claim evolutiondunnit only try to add God in as some agent hiding in the bush that we don't know and who doesn't seem to matter much. The evidence for that is we do not see God in any evolution textbook teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted April 15, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,887 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 818 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, dad2 said: No. The creator. Not an agent. We do not need to know anything other than what He told us about the six days of creation. You see, people that claim evolutiondunnit only try to add God in as some agent hiding in the bush that we don't know and who doesn't seem to matter much. The evidence for that is we do not see God in any evolution textbook teaching. Secular textbooks is a whole nother topic, people who even think about God meaning atleast their thinking of a creator rather than chance is good enough. I know God was the agent in helping me get a prosthetic heart valve because the one i was born with didn't work properly. Took 52 years to fail but lasted pretty good considering the Aortic Stenosis. Edited April 15, 2023 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted April 15, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,523 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/28/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BeyondET said: Secular textbooks is a whole nother topic, people who even think about God meaning atleast their thinking of a creator rather than chance is good enough. So how exactly does your beliefs in creation week differ from their story? 9 minutes ago, BeyondET said: I know God was the agent in helping me get a prosthetic heart valve because the one i was born with didn't work properly. He also was the One who raised the dead and gave the blind sight, and made the deaf hear, and the totally lame walk suddenly. He also is the One who created the world and all stars and life at creation. He was not hiding behind a tree while the dust formed Adam as some sort of secret agent cheering things on. 9 minutes ago, BeyondET said: Took 52 years to fail but lasted pretty good considering the Aortic Stenosis. God can use even wicked nations or people or medical systems. Not sure what that has to do with being clear on whether you believe He really created in six days or not. Edited April 15, 2023 by dad2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted April 15, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,887 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 818 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted April 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, dad2 said: So how exactly does your beliefs in creation week differ from their story? because I believe in a Creator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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