Help with my daughter please!

[HAZARD]

3 hours ago, Amyhoff said:

I’ve praying around the clock for years. I’ve even had her sit with priests and nuns to help her change her ways. 
thank you for your prayers. 

Forget priests and nuns.

Pray to the Father in Jesus holy Name alone.

[Amyhoff]

19 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Forget priests and nuns.

Pray to the Father in Jesus holy Name alone.

I do. But I wanted her to meet with them as well as her family. 

[HAZARD]

Priests and nuns are the last people on earth I would be asking for any kind of help or advice on any matter.

[OneLight]

There is such a thing as being accountable for ones own actions.  It sounds like you are doing everything you can as a parent, even though she is no longer a child.  In life we all learn lessons. The best lessons are usually the hardest and hurt the most.  Maybe it's time to let her stand on her own two feet all the way around.

[Amyhoff]

22 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Priests and nuns are the last people on earth I would be asking for any kind of help or advice on any matter.

Why?  As. Roman Catholic that’s what we do. 

[Amyhoff]

21 minutes ago, OneLight said:

There is such a thing as being accountable for ones own actions.  It sounds like you are doing everything you can as a parent, even though she is no longer a child.  In life we all learn lessons. The best lessons are usually the hardest and hurt the most.  Maybe it's time to let her stand on her own two feet all the way around.

I agree and yes I feel as though as I am doing everything. I don’t want her to come home with a black baby from a married man again. It tears a family apart.  You can’t imagine. She had a miscarriage. Obviously the lord knew she couldn’t handle it. Nor could I.  

[OneLight]

4 minutes ago, Amyhoff said:

I agree and yes I feel as though as I am doing everything. I don’t want her to come home with a black baby from a married man again. It tears a family apart.  You can’t imagine. She had a miscarriage. Obviously the lord knew she couldn’t handle it. Nor could I.  

There is a lot of information about your situation that has not been shared, so accurate analysis is not possible.  In a nutshell, after being a parent of 5 kids myself, we, the parent, need to realize and accept that when an adult child refuses to live under the conditions set forth for the house, then it's time for them to move on, find their own place.  It's a hard choice to make, but sometimes tough love is required.

[HAZARD]

10 minutes ago, Amyhoff said:

Why?  As. Roman Catholic that’s what we do. 

Personally I have nothing against Catholics. I was raised in a catholic house hold, was sent to catholic schools. Things that were said to me and what happened to me and many other in thes schools would make you sick if I told you. I couldn't wait to get out of and away from them.  Its not God's church.

Here's a ;list of Catholic heresies.

OF ALL THE HUMAN TRADITIONS taught and practiced by the Roman Catholic Church,
which are contrary to the Bible, the most ancient are the prayers for the dead
and the sign of the Cross. Both began 300 years after Christ.

Year, 310

Wax Candles introduced in church

320

Veneration of angels and dead saints

375

The Mass, as a daily celebration, adopted

394

The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term, "Mother
of God", as applied to her, originated in the Council of Ephesus

431

Priests began to dress differently from the laity

500

Extreme Unction

526

The doctrine of Purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great

593

The Latin language, as the language of prayer and worship in churches, was also
imposed by Pope Gregory I. 600 years after Christ



The Word of God forbids praying and teaching in an unknown tongue. (1st
Corinthians 14:9).

600

The Bible teaches that we pray to God alone. In the primitive church never were
prayers directed to Mary, or to dead saints. This practice began in the Roman
Church.



(Matthew 11:28; Luke 1:46; Acts 10:25-26; 14:14-18)

600

The Papacy is of pagan origin. The title of pope or universal bishop, was first
given to the bishop of Rome by the wicked emperor Phocas.



This he did to spite Bishop Ciriacus of Constantinople, who had justly
excommunicated him for his having caused the assassination of his predecessor
emperor Mauritius. Gregory 1, then bishop of Rome, refused the title, but his
successor, Boniface III, first assumed title "pope."



Jesus did not appoint Peter to the headship of the apostles and forbade any
such notion. (Luke 22:24-26; Ephesians 1:22-23; Colossians 1:18; 1st
Corinthians 3:11).



Note: Nor is there any mention in Scripture, nor in history, that Peter ever
was in Rome, much less that he was pope there for 25 years; Clement, 3rd bishop
of Rome, remarks that "there is no real 1st century evidence that Peter
ever was in Rome."

610

The kissing of the Pope's feet



It had been a pagan custom to kiss the feet of emperors. The Word of God
forbids such practices. (Read Acts 10:25-26; Revelation 19:10; 22:9).

709

The Temporal power of the Popes



When Pepin, the usurper of the throne of France, descended into Italy, called
by Pope Stephen II, to war against the Italian Lombards, he defeated them and
gave the city of Rome and surrounding territory to the pope. Jesus expressly
forbade such a thing, and He himself refused worldly kingship. (Read Matthew
4:8-9; 20:25-26; John 18:38).

750

Worship of the cross, images and relics was authorized



This was by order of Dowager Empress Irene of Constantinople, who first caused
to pluck the eyes of her own son, Constantine VI, and then called a church
council at the request of Hadrian I, pope of Rome at that time.



Such practice is called simply IDOLATRY in the Bible, and is severely
condemned. (Read Exodus 20:4; 3:17; Deuteronomy 27:15; Psalm 115).

788

Holy Water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by the priest, was
authorized

850

The veneration of St. Joseph began

890

The baptism of bells was instituted by Pope John XIV

965

Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV



Every believer and follower of Christ is called saint in the Bible. (Read
Romans 1:7; 1st Colossians 1:2).

995

Fasting on Fridays and during Lent were imposed



Imposed by popes said to be interested in the commerce of fish. (Bull, or
permit to eat meat), some authorities say, began in the year 700. This is
against the plain teaching of the Bible. (Read Matthew 15:10; 1st Corinthians
10:25; 1st Timothy 4:1-3).

998

The Mass was developed gradually as a sacrifice; attendance made obligatory in
the 11th century.



The Bible teaches that the sacrifice of Christ was offered once and for all,
and is not to be repeated, but only commemorated in the Lord's Supper. (Read
Hebrews 7:27; 9:26-28; 10:10-14).

 

The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by Pope Hildebrand, Boniface VII



Jesus imposed no such rule, nor did any of the apostles. On the contrary, St.
Peter was a married man, and St. Paul says that bishops were to have wife and
children. (Read 1st Timothy 3:2,5, and 12; Matthew 8:14-15).

1079

The Rosary, or prayer beads was introduced by Peter the Hermit, in the year
1090. Copied from Hindus and Mohammedans



The counting of prayers is a pagan practice and is expressly condemned by
Christ. (Matthew 6:5-13).

1090

The Inquisition of heretics was instituted by the Council of Verona in the year
1184. Jesus never taught the use of force to spread His religion

1184

The sale of Indulgences, commonly regarded as a purchase of forgiveness and a
permit to indulge in sin.



Christianity, as taught in the Bible, condemns such a traffic and it was the
protest against this traffic that brought on the Protestant Reformation in the
16th century.

1190

The dogma of Transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III, in the year



By this doctrine the priest pretends to perform a daily miracle by changing a
wafer into the body of Christ, and then he pretends to eat Him alive in the
presence of his people during Mass. The Bible condemns such absurdities; for
the Lord's Supper is simply a memorial of the sacrifice of Christ. The
spiritual presence of Christ is implied in the Lord's Supper. (Read Luke
22:19-20; John 6:35; 1st Corinthians 11:26).

1215

Confession of sin to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope
Innocent III., in the Lateran Council



The Bible commands us to confess our sins direct to God. (Read Psalm 51:1-10;
Luke 7:48; 15:21; 1st John 1:8-9).

1215

The adoration of the wafer (Host), was decreed by Pope Honorius



So the Roman Church worships a God made by human hands. This is plain idolatry
and absolutely contrary to the spirit of the Gospel. (Read John 4:24).

1220

The Bible forbidden to laymen and placed in the Index of forbidden books by the
Council of Valencia



Jesus commanded that the Scriptures should be read by all. (John 5:39; 1st
Timothy 3:15-17).

1229

The Scapular was invented by Simon Stock, and English monk



It is a piece of brown cloth, with the picture of the Virgin and supposed to
contain supernatural virtue to protect from all dangers those who wear it on
naked skin. This is fetishism.

1287

The Roman Church forbade the cup to the laity, by instituting the communion of
one kind in the Council of Constance



The Bible commands us to celebrate the Lord's Supper with unleavened bread and
the fruit of the vine. (Read Matthew 26:27; 1st Corinthians 11:26-29).

1414

The doctrine of Purgatory was proclaimed as a dogma of faith by Council of
Florence



There is not one word in the Bible that would teach the purgatory of priests.
The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sins. (Read 1st John 1:7-9;
2:1-2; John 5:24; Romans 8:1).

1439

The doctrine of 7 Sacraments affirmed



The Bible says that Christ instituted only two ordinances, Baptism and the Lord's
Supper. (Read Matthew 28:19-20; 26:26-28).

1439

The Ave Maria, part of the last



It was completed 50 years afterward and finally approved by Pope Sixtus V, at
the end of the 16th century.

1508

The Council of Trent, held in the year 1545, declared that Tradition is of
equal authority with the Bible



By tradition is meant human teachings. The Pharisees believed the same way, and
Jesus bitterly condemned them, for by teaching human tradition, they nullified
the commandments of God. (Read Mark 7:7-13; Colossians 2:8; Revelation 22:18).

1545

The apocryphal books were added to the Bible also by the Council of Trent



These books were not recognized as canonical by the Jewish Church. (See
Revelation 22:8-9).

1546

The Creed of Pope Pius IV was imposed as the official creed 1560 years after
Christ and the apostles



True Christians retain the Holy Scriptures as their creed. Hence their creed is
1500 years older than the creed of Roman Catholics. (Read Galatians 1:8).

1560

The Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX



The Bible states that all men, with the sole exception of Christ, are sinners.
Mary herself had need of a Savior. (Read Romans 3:23; 5:12; Psalm 51:5; Luke
1:30,46,47).

1834

In the year 1870 after Christ, Pope Pius IX proclaimed the dogma of Papal
Infallibility



This is a blasphemy and the sign of the apostasy and of the antichrist
predicted by St. Paul. (Read 2nd Thessalonians 2:2-12; Revelation 17:1-9;
13:5-8,18).



Many Bible students see the number of the beast (Rev. 13:18), 666 in the Roman
letters of the Pope's title: "VICARIVS FILII DEI." -- V-5, I-1;
C-100, I-1; V-S, I-1; L-50, I-1; I-1; D-500, I-l — Total, 666.

1870

Pope Plus X, in the year 1907, condemned together with "Modernism",
all the discoveries of modern science which are not approved by the Church



Pius IX had done the same thing in the Syllabus of 1864.

1907

In the year 1930 Pius XI, condemned the Public Schools

1930

In the year 1931 the same pope Pius XI, reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is
"the Mother of God"



This doctrine was first invented by the Council of Ephesus in the year 431.
This is a heresy contrary by Mary's own words. (Read Luke 1:46-49; John 2:
l-5).

1931

In the year 1950 the last dogma was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII, the Assumption
of the Virgin Mary

1950



Cardinal Newman, in his book, “The Development of the Christian Religion,”
admits that ... “Temples, incense, oil lamps, votive offerings, holy water,
holidays and season of devotions, processions, blessing of fields, sacerdotal
vestments, the tonsure (of priests and monks and nuns), images ... are all of
pagan origin...” (Page 359).

[OneLight]

14 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Personally I have nothing against Catholics. I was raised in a catholic house hold, was sent to catholic schools. Things that were said to me and what happened to me and many other in thes schools would make you sick if I told you. I couldn't wait to get out of and away from them.  Its not God's church.

Here's a ;list of Catholic heresies.

OF ALL THE HUMAN TRADITIONS taught and practiced by the Roman Catholic Church,
which are contrary to the Bible, the most ancient are the prayers for the dead
and the sign of the Cross. Both began 300 years after Christ.

Year, 310

Wax Candles introduced in church

320

Veneration of angels and dead saints

375

The Mass, as a daily celebration, adopted

394

The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term, "Mother
of God", as applied to her, originated in the Council of Ephesus

431

Priests began to dress differently from the laity

500

Extreme Unction

526

The doctrine of Purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great

593

The Latin language, as the language of prayer and worship in churches, was also
imposed by Pope Gregory I. 600 years after Christ



The Word of God forbids praying and teaching in an unknown tongue. (1st
Corinthians 14:9).

600

The Bible teaches that we pray to God alone. In the primitive church never were
prayers directed to Mary, or to dead saints. This practice began in the Roman
Church.



(Matthew 11:28; Luke 1:46; Acts 10:25-26; 14:14-18)

600

The Papacy is of pagan origin. The title of pope or universal bishop, was first
given to the bishop of Rome by the wicked emperor Phocas.



This he did to spite Bishop Ciriacus of Constantinople, who had justly
excommunicated him for his having caused the assassination of his predecessor
emperor Mauritius. Gregory 1, then bishop of Rome, refused the title, but his
successor, Boniface III, first assumed title "pope."



Jesus did not appoint Peter to the headship of the apostles and forbade any
such notion. (Luke 22:24-26; Ephesians 1:22-23; Colossians 1:18; 1st
Corinthians 3:11).



Note: Nor is there any mention in Scripture, nor in history, that Peter ever
was in Rome, much less that he was pope there for 25 years; Clement, 3rd bishop
of Rome, remarks that "there is no real 1st century evidence that Peter
ever was in Rome."

610

The kissing of the Pope's feet



It had been a pagan custom to kiss the feet of emperors. The Word of God
forbids such practices. (Read Acts 10:25-26; Revelation 19:10; 22:9).

709

The Temporal power of the Popes



When Pepin, the usurper of the throne of France, descended into Italy, called
by Pope Stephen II, to war against the Italian Lombards, he defeated them and
gave the city of Rome and surrounding territory to the pope. Jesus expressly
forbade such a thing, and He himself refused worldly kingship. (Read Matthew
4:8-9; 20:25-26; John 18:38).

750

Worship of the cross, images and relics was authorized



This was by order of Dowager Empress Irene of Constantinople, who first caused
to pluck the eyes of her own son, Constantine VI, and then called a church
council at the request of Hadrian I, pope of Rome at that time.



Such practice is called simply IDOLATRY in the Bible, and is severely
condemned. (Read Exodus 20:4; 3:17; Deuteronomy 27:15; Psalm 115).

788

Holy Water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by the priest, was
authorized

850

The veneration of St. Joseph began

890

The baptism of bells was instituted by Pope John XIV

965

Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV



Every believer and follower of Christ is called saint in the Bible. (Read
Romans 1:7; 1st Colossians 1:2).

995

Fasting on Fridays and during Lent were imposed



Imposed by popes said to be interested in the commerce of fish. (Bull, or
permit to eat meat), some authorities say, began in the year 700. This is
against the plain teaching of the Bible. (Read Matthew 15:10; 1st Corinthians
10:25; 1st Timothy 4:1-3).

998

The Mass was developed gradually as a sacrifice; attendance made obligatory in
the 11th century.



The Bible teaches that the sacrifice of Christ was offered once and for all,
and is not to be repeated, but only commemorated in the Lord's Supper. (Read
Hebrews 7:27; 9:26-28; 10:10-14).

 

The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by Pope Hildebrand, Boniface VII



Jesus imposed no such rule, nor did any of the apostles. On the contrary, St.
Peter was a married man, and St. Paul says that bishops were to have wife and
children. (Read 1st Timothy 3:2,5, and 12; Matthew 8:14-15).

1079

The Rosary, or prayer beads was introduced by Peter the Hermit, in the year
1090. Copied from Hindus and Mohammedans



The counting of prayers is a pagan practice and is expressly condemned by
Christ. (Matthew 6:5-13).

1090

The Inquisition of heretics was instituted by the Council of Verona in the year
1184. Jesus never taught the use of force to spread His religion

1184

The sale of Indulgences, commonly regarded as a purchase of forgiveness and a
permit to indulge in sin.



Christianity, as taught in the Bible, condemns such a traffic and it was the
protest against this traffic that brought on the Protestant Reformation in the
16th century.

1190

The dogma of Transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III, in the year



By this doctrine the priest pretends to perform a daily miracle by changing a
wafer into the body of Christ, and then he pretends to eat Him alive in the
presence of his people during Mass. The Bible condemns such absurdities; for
the Lord's Supper is simply a memorial of the sacrifice of Christ. The
spiritual presence of Christ is implied in the Lord's Supper. (Read Luke
22:19-20; John 6:35; 1st Corinthians 11:26).

1215

Confession of sin to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope
Innocent III., in the Lateran Council



The Bible commands us to confess our sins direct to God. (Read Psalm 51:1-10;
Luke 7:48; 15:21; 1st John 1:8-9).

1215

The adoration of the wafer (Host), was decreed by Pope Honorius



So the Roman Church worships a God made by human hands. This is plain idolatry
and absolutely contrary to the spirit of the Gospel. (Read John 4:24).

1220

The Bible forbidden to laymen and placed in the Index of forbidden books by the
Council of Valencia



Jesus commanded that the Scriptures should be read by all. (John 5:39; 1st
Timothy 3:15-17).

1229

The Scapular was invented by Simon Stock, and English monk



It is a piece of brown cloth, with the picture of the Virgin and supposed to
contain supernatural virtue to protect from all dangers those who wear it on
naked skin. This is fetishism.

1287

The Roman Church forbade the cup to the laity, by instituting the communion of
one kind in the Council of Constance



The Bible commands us to celebrate the Lord's Supper with unleavened bread and
the fruit of the vine. (Read Matthew 26:27; 1st Corinthians 11:26-29).

1414

The doctrine of Purgatory was proclaimed as a dogma of faith by Council of
Florence



There is not one word in the Bible that would teach the purgatory of priests.
The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sins. (Read 1st John 1:7-9;
2:1-2; John 5:24; Romans 8:1).

1439

The doctrine of 7 Sacraments affirmed



The Bible says that Christ instituted only two ordinances, Baptism and the Lord's
Supper. (Read Matthew 28:19-20; 26:26-28).

1439

The Ave Maria, part of the last



It was completed 50 years afterward and finally approved by Pope Sixtus V, at
the end of the 16th century.

1508

The Council of Trent, held in the year 1545, declared that Tradition is of
equal authority with the Bible



By tradition is meant human teachings. The Pharisees believed the same way, and
Jesus bitterly condemned them, for by teaching human tradition, they nullified
the commandments of God. (Read Mark 7:7-13; Colossians 2:8; Revelation 22:18).

1545

The apocryphal books were added to the Bible also by the Council of Trent



These books were not recognized as canonical by the Jewish Church. (See
Revelation 22:8-9).

1546

The Creed of Pope Pius IV was imposed as the official creed 1560 years after
Christ and the apostles



True Christians retain the Holy Scriptures as their creed. Hence their creed is
1500 years older than the creed of Roman Catholics. (Read Galatians 1:8).

1560

The Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX



The Bible states that all men, with the sole exception of Christ, are sinners.
Mary herself had need of a Savior. (Read Romans 3:23; 5:12; Psalm 51:5; Luke
1:30,46,47).

1834

In the year 1870 after Christ, Pope Pius IX proclaimed the dogma of Papal
Infallibility



This is a blasphemy and the sign of the apostasy and of the antichrist
predicted by St. Paul. (Read 2nd Thessalonians 2:2-12; Revelation 17:1-9;
13:5-8,18).



Many Bible students see the number of the beast (Rev. 13:18), 666 in the Roman
letters of the Pope's title: "VICARIVS FILII DEI." -- V-5, I-1;
C-100, I-1; V-S, I-1; L-50, I-1; I-1; D-500, I-l — Total, 666.

1870

Pope Plus X, in the year 1907, condemned together with "Modernism",
all the discoveries of modern science which are not approved by the Church



Pius IX had done the same thing in the Syllabus of 1864.

1907

In the year 1930 Pius XI, condemned the Public Schools

1930

In the year 1931 the same pope Pius XI, reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is
"the Mother of God"



This doctrine was first invented by the Council of Ephesus in the year 431.
This is a heresy contrary by Mary's own words. (Read Luke 1:46-49; John 2:
l-5).

1931

In the year 1950 the last dogma was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII, the Assumption
of the Virgin Mary

1950



Cardinal Newman, in his book, “The Development of the Christian Religion,”
admits that ... “Temples, incense, oil lamps, votive offerings, holy water,
holidays and season of devotions, processions, blessing of fields, sacerdotal
vestments, the tonsure (of priests and monks and nuns), images ... are all of
pagan origin...” (Page 359).

Isn't all this a bit much when someone comes here asking for advice.  Whether true or not is not the question, but we should be reaching out to her in grace and not making this about the RCC doctrine at this point?

Colossians 4:6

Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer each one.

Notice that it reads "seasoned with salt", not pour the whole salt container on someone.

[HAZARD]

I am reaching out to her, in truth. Not much sense hiding facts. If we want God to intervene in our lives we need to come to Him in truth not in some man made false religion that worships idols, worships Mary, pray to the dead. Sorry if I have offended you, I will bow out now. 

Edited March 30, 2023 by HAZARD