douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: He said the falling away and the man of sin is revealed before the day of the Lord .Not that he is revealed on the day of the Lord. Paul, in 2Thessalonians2:1-4 gave the two things that must take place before the Day of Christ begins. The second thing is the revealing of the man of sin by his audacious act which will anger God. God has him killed for sitting in the temple, in Ezekiel 28:1-10. 4 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Geesh the saints in Daniel 11:32 knows he is the man of sin 42 months before the end.1290 days before the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem. Daniel 11:32 is historic. And does not reveal the end times man of sin. You need to work on and make a timeline chart of events. Your thoughts and timeline references are coming through as fragmented and confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, douggg said: Those verses are historic, not end times. End times do not begin until Daniel 11:36. They are not historic.This chapter has been being fulfilled for the last few decades while you have not been watching it. From the looks of it ,the king of the north will be coming to Jerusalem in a couple more years. It's a shame you haven't been paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: And in Daniel 11:44 the abomination that causes jerusalems desolation is placed making Jerusalem desolate. The abomination of desolation is not mentioned in Daniel 11:44. Shilohsfoal, you are free-styling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, douggg said: The abomination of desolation is not mentioned in Daniel 11:44. Shilohsfoal, you are free-styling. You can't understand it because you have ignored Christ.Christ said the great tribulation is when the abomination of desolation is placed. Do you deny this? 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Do you deny or agree that the great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem? Edited June 29, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Shilohsfoal said: They are not historic.This chapter has been being fulfilled for the last few decades while you have not been watching it. Everything prior Daniel 11:35 is historic. Daniel 11:35 is referring to the church age and transitions to the time of the end. And in Daniel 11:36 it picks up in the end times, and the willful king in that verse is the beast king. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. 36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, douggg said: Everything prior Daniel 11:35 is historic. Daniel 11:35 is referring to the church age and transitions to the time of the end. And in Daniel 11:36 it picks up in the end times, and the willful king in that verse is the beast king. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. 36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Daniel 11 is being fulfilled under your very nose and you haven't noticed. Edited June 29, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: You can't understand it because you have ignored Christ.Christ said the great tribulation is when the abomination of desolation is placed. Do you deny this? Jesus is saying in Matthew 24:15, the great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is setup. Jesus referred to the prophet Daniel. In Daniel 12:11-12, the abomination of desolation is addressed, indicating the great tribulation lasts 1335 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Daniel 11 is being fulfilled under your very nose and you haven't noticed. We are living in the end times, which Daniel 11:35 transitions to. Daniel 11:36-44 are end times events. Don't give me a speech about what is under my nose. Read what it says in verse 35. The end times in Daniel 11 are verses 36-44. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. 36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, douggg said: Jesus is saying in Matthew 24:15, the great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is setup. Jesus referred to the prophet Daniel. In Daniel 12:11-12, the abomination of desolation is addressed, indicating the great tribulation lasts 1335 days. If you agree with Jesus that the great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is placed then you would know by Daniel 12:1 that the abomination of desolation is placed at that time. Do you agree or disagree with Daniel that the great tribulation is at this time in Daniel 12:1? Daniel 12:1 And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, douggg said: We are living in the end times, which Daniel 11:35 transitions to. Daniel 11:36-44 are end times events. Don't give me a speech about what is under my nose. Read what it says in verse 35. The end times in Daniel 11 are verses 36-44. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. 36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. We have not even arrived at Daniel 11:31 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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