Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, douggg said: We are living in the end times, which Daniel 11:35 transitions to. Daniel 11:36-44 are end times events. Don't give me a speech about what is under my nose. Read what it says in verse 35. The end times in Daniel 11 are verses 36-44. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. 36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Do you agree or disagree with Daniel that it is at this time in Daniel 12:1 that the great tribulation( which is caused by the abomination of desolation) takes place? Daniel 12:1 And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: Do you agree or disagree with Daniel that it is at this time in Daniel 12:1 that the great tribulation( which is caused by the abomination of desolation) takes place? The abomination of desolation setup on the temple mount triggers the beginning of the great tribulation. Daniel 12:1 the worst time in the history of the nation of Israel, and the world as a whole, will be during the great tribulation - lasting from when the abomination of desolation statue image is placed on the temple mount until Jesus Returns, 1335 days later. Edited June 29, 2023 by douggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, douggg said: The abomination of desolation setup on the temple mount triggers the beginning of the great tribulation. Daniel 12:1 the worst time in the history of the nation of Israel, and the world as a whole, will be during the great tribulation - lasting from when the abomination of desolation statue image is placed on the temple mount until Jesus Returns, 1335 days later. Ok you claim Jesus returns and the dead in Christ are raised 1335 days after Daniel 12:1. Who then raises those who sleep in the dust of the earth in Daniel 12:2 , 1335 days before Christ comes ? Daniel 12:1-2 And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to reproach and everlasting shame. PS if all of Daniels people who names are written are delivered in Daniel 12:1-2 then there would be no one left to save 1335 days after they are all saved. Edited June 29, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Ok you claim Jesus returns and the dead in Christ are raised 1335 days after Daniel 12:1. Who then raises those who sleep in the dust of the earth in Daniel 12:2 , 1335 days before Christ comes ? No, to your first sentence. The rapture/resurrection is anytime between right this very second and the day when Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act - which will be before the 1335 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 minute ago, douggg said: No, to your first sentence. The rapture/resurrection is anytime between right this very second and the day when Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act - which will be before the 1335 days. According to Daniel and Jesus you are incorrect. Let's go over this again. Jesus said in Mathew 24 that there would be great tribulation when the abomination that causes desolation is placed in Jerusalem. Do you agree or disagree with Jesus? 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Jesus said in Mathew 24 that there would be great tribulation when the abomination that causes desolation is placed in Jerusalem. Do you agree or disagree with Jesus? I agree with Jesus. But not with the way you have worded your sentence. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that the great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is standing in the holy place. How long the great tribulation lasts is the 1335 days in Daniel 12:11-12. What happens at the end of the 1290 days is that the sign of the Son of man appears in heaven (Matthew 24:30a). Which sends terror into the hearts of the wicked. And the kings of the earth will assemble their armies at Armageddon to make war on Jesus. They will be given 45 days to prepare for that great day of the Lord God Almighty. Revelation 16:14-16. Edited June 29, 2023 by douggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, douggg said: I agree with Jesus. But not with the way you have worded your sentence. Jesus said in Matthew 24 that the great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is standing in the holy place. How long the great tribulation lasts is the 1335 days in Daniel 12:11-12. What happens at the end of the 1290 days is that the sign of the Son of man appears in heaven (Matthew 24:30a). Which sends terror into the hearts of the wicked. And the kings of the earth will assemble their armies at Armageddon to make war on Jesus. They will be given 45 days to prepare for that great day of the Lord God Almighty. Revelation 16:14-16. Dude.The daily sacrifice is abolished 1290 days before the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem in Daniel 12:1. The daily sacrifice is abolished in Daniel 11:31. Daniel 11:31 His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. First the daily sacrifice is abolished Then the abomination that causes desolation is placed in Jerusalem 1290 later. Daniel 12:11 From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. The abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem in Daniel 12:1 when the great tribulation is.The resurection takes place on that exact day in Daniel 12:2 Daniel 12:1-2 And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to reproach and everlasting shame. The man of sin who Paul said would die at Christs coming dies in the previous verse. Daniel 11:45 He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him. But you insist Jesus will come 1335 days after the man of sin dies in Daniel 11:45 and after the dead are raised in Daniel 12:2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Daniel 12:11 From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. The verse is combining two related events - not that the time between the two events is 1290 days. But 1290 days from then - something happens. It does not say what in Daniel 12. But from Matthew 24:29-24:30a, it will be the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. -------------------------------------------------------- the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up The Antichrist will stop the daily sacrifice. And commit the transgression of desolation act. He will be killed for it and brought back to life a few days later to become the beast king. Then the false prophet will have the AoD image of the beast king made and placed on the temple mount - on day 1185 of the 7 years, 1335 days before Jesus returns on day 2520 of the 7 years. Aod - 1335 days to Jesus's return Aod - 1290 days to the sign of the Son of Man in heaven The 45 days in between, the kings of the earth assemble their armies as Armageddon to try and stop Jesus from returning down to earth and executing judgment on them. Edited June 29, 2023 by douggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Dude Please use my screen-name. douggg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, douggg said: The verse is combining two related events - not that the time between the two events is 1290 days. But 1290 days from then - something happens. It does not say what in Daniel 12. But from Matthew 24:29-24:30a, it will be the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. -------------------------------------------------------- the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up The Antichrist will stop the daily sacrifice. He will be killed for it and brought back to life a few days later to become the beast king. Then the false prophet will have the AoD image of the beast king made and placed on the temple mount - on day 1185 of the 7 years, 1335 days before Jesus returns on day 2520 of the 7 years. Aod - 1335 days to Jesus's return Aod - 1290 days to the sign of the Son of Man in heaven The 45 days in between, the kings of the earth assemble their armies as Armageddon to try and stop Jesus from returning down to earth and executing judgment on them. No,the armed forces abolish the daily sacrifice. Try to keep things biblical if you can. Daniel 11:31 His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. it's the armed forces who abolish the daily sacrifice. it's the armed forces that place the abomination that causes desolation. You will never be able to understand the word of God if you continue to change his word to suit your beliefs .And you will never help anyone by telling people things that are not biblical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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