Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, douggg said: The verse is combining two related events - not that the time between the two events is 1290 days. But 1290 days from then - something happens. It does not say what in Daniel 12. But from Matthew 24:29-24:30a, it will be the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. -------------------------------------------------------- the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up The Antichrist will stop the daily sacrifice. He will be killed for it and brought back to life a few days later to become the beast king. Then the false prophet will have the AoD image of the beast king made and placed on the temple mount - on day 1185 of the 7 years, 1335 days before Jesus returns on day 2520 of the 7 years. Aod - 1335 days to Jesus's return Aod - 1290 days to the sign of the Son of Man in heaven The 45 days in between, the kings of the earth assemble their armies as Armageddon to try and stop Jesus from returning down to earth and executing judgment on them. The verse is literally telling it's listeners the exact amount of days from the day the daily sacrifice is abolished to the exact day the abomination that causes desolation is placed in Jerusalem by the armed forces. Right down to the exact day . Daniel 12:11 From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. no more and no less but the exact amount of days. Edited June 29, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: No,the armed forces abolish the daily sacrifice. Try to keep things biblical if you can. Daniel 11:31 His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. it's the armed forces who abolish the daily sacrifice. it's the armed forces that place the abomination that causes desolation. Daniel 11:31 is historic. The time of the end verses in Daniel 11 begin in verse 36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 Just now, douggg said: Daniel 11:31 is historic. The time of the end verses in Daniel 11 begin in verse 36. No it isn't I've been watching the chapter being fulfilled while you have been ignoring it. You will continue to ignore it as you have decided to put all your trust in the doctrine of the Pharisees who taught that it was already fulfilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: The verse is literally telling it's listeners the exact amount of days from the day the daily sacrifice is abolished to the exact day the abomination that causes desolation is placed in Jerusalem by the armed forces. Right down to the exact day . No, Daniel 12:11 is not saying that. In Daniel 9:27, it is in the middle part of the seven years that the daily sacrifice is stopped. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: No it isn't I've been watching the chapter being fulfilled while you have been ignoring it. You will continue to ignore it as you have decided to put all your trust in the doctrine of the Pharisees who taught that it was already fulfilled. You are ignoring Daniel 11:35. The time of end is future of that verse. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, douggg said: No, Daniel 12:11 is not saying that. In Daniel 9:27, it is in the middle part of the seven years that the daily sacrifice is stopped. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Daniel doesn't say anything about 7 years. Like I said ,if you don't stop changing God's word to fit your view then you will never understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 Just now, Shilohsfoal said: Daniel doesn't say anything about 7 years. The week is a week of years. All of the other events like unto messiah are based on a week of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 minute ago, douggg said: You are ignoring Daniel 11:35. The time of end is future of that verse. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. The time of the end is 1290 days after the daily sacrifice is abolished in Daniel 11:31. Daniel 11:33-35 Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed. During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere. And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come. The time of the end begins when the king of the south attacks the king of the north armed forces in jerusalem in Daniel 40. The king of the north responds by innihilating many and the armed for es place the abomination that causes desolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, douggg said: The week is a week of years. All of the other events like unto messiah are based on a week of years. So you confused yourself over a week . Edited June 29, 2023 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggg Posted June 29, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,143 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 220 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/18/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come. The time of the end begins when the king of the south attacks the king of the north armed forces in jerusalem in Daniel 40. The king of the north responds by innihilating many and the armed for es place the abomination that causes desolation. The time of the end in Daniel 11 begins with verse 36, the willful king. That king will be the king of the West - the beast king of the EU, with allies likely of the U.S. and Canada, the rest of the powerful western nations, who will be controlling all of the middle east oil at that time. Near the end of the 7 years, the king of the south will push at "him" the king of the West. Upon seeing that, the king of the North with quickly join in to attack "him" the king of the West. 40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. To add to the king of the West's worries, news out of the east and more from the north are heading toward him. These movements will be a prelude to Armageddon, drawing all nations into the middle east. Edited June 29, 2023 by douggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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