The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE

[upuntildown]

The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE

I believe the courts should rule that a person’s gender is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate and the gender classification cannot be changed, period, nada, zip, never.

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[NConly]

10 minutes ago, upuntildown said:

The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE

I believe the courts should rule that a person’s gender is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate and the gender classification cannot be changed, period, nada, zip, never.

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the problem to many non believers being elected and they name the judges

[FJK]

The Court can't make law, they can only rule on laws that have been made by legislative actions.

Which puts the issue in the hands of our elected representatives at various levels, they have to make the laws that state gender issues.

So far, I haven't heard any of them running on promises of making those type laws, or of the people who elect them demanding they do if they want to get their vote.

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

43 minutes ago, FJK said:

The Court can't make law, they can only rule on laws that have been made by legislative actions.

Which puts the issue in the hands of our elected representatives at various levels, they have to make the laws that state gender issues.

So far, I haven't heard any of them running on promises of making those type laws, or of the people who elect them demanding they do if they want to get their vote.

In theory you are correct, but as we have seen, the court DOES make law, even if its not technically allowed to. For example, abortion and gay marriage were legalized by SCOTUS, even though neither congress nor the people ever voted to legalize it.

[upuntildown]

1 hour ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:

In theory you are correct, but as we have seen, the court DOES make law

The US supreme court can rule that gender determination is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate.

Or so it seems to me

[Ghostdog]

if they did that then they will just take that part out

[FJK]

On 7/15/2023 at 5:52 PM, upuntildown said:

The US supreme court can rule that gender determination is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate.

Or so it seems to me

The Court rules on cases brought before them, b9th whether they are in accord with the State andFederal constitutional authorities and are being applied properly, that requires some legislative law to start with.

So no matter how you look at it, it is our legislative bodies that make the law.

No law, no court case to rule on.

Edited July 17, 2023 by FJK
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[Neighbor]

23 hours ago, FJK said:

that requires some legislative law to start with.

Hi,  Many laws if not most laws are not legislatively instituted. They are made up by administrative bodies of unelected bureaucrats.  Individuals affected by those administrative edicts can appeal if they have standing ( are affected by) them. The appeal process can elevate all the way to the USA supreme court.

 

[FJK]

6 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Hi,  Many laws if not most laws are not legislatively instituted. They are made up by administrative bodies of unelected bureaucrats.  Individuals affected by those administrative edicts can appeal if they have standing ( are affected by) them. The appeal process can elevate all the way to the USA supreme court.

 

The agencies making those administrative laws did not create themselves, they were created by legislative laws -Statutory law-  that gave then the power to make their subsequent regulations in their enabling clause.

All law has either Constitutional or Statutory (legislative) authority behind it.

You won't find a Supreme Court decision that is not a ruling on established law as a result of a petition to review it or its application in individual cases..

[FJK]

On 7/15/2023 at 5:52 PM, upuntildown said:

The US supreme court can rule that gender determination is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate.

Or so it seems to me

Only if a case is brought before it claiming standing to challenge some law that would have that as an issue.

More likely would be a ruling that there is no authority for it to make such a ruling or just no grant of cert to review it at all after it has gone through the lower courts and let those rulings stand.