How do you explain the lack of archaeological evidence for the exodus narrative?

[Who me]

2 hours ago, FJK said:

No, only presenting his verified body could destroy Christianity, not some craftily formed argument.

And that cannot be done.

Do you not think Satan -through those under his authority- would have done this at the time if he could have?

 

All that is necessary  is a reasonable argument or case that fit the known facts.

Jesus's  body is not required.

What are the usual arguments:-

   Jesus never existed.  Unfortunately  there is extra biblical evidence, Joseph's etc who mentioned that Jesus existed as well as the separate biblical accounts.

Jesus only fainted, revived in the tomb and escaped. This one is laughable, the Romans were experts and knew death, even if they were fooled the brutally beaten, tortured body needed more than two days bed rest before pushing several tons of rock aside, admittedly the bode of a crucified man would terrify the guards but would not convince any one they had risen from the dead.

Jes had an 7nknown twin? How did this unknown twin know the disciples etc etc well enough to fool them and why didn't  the Jewish authorities show he was a fraud by producing  Jesus's  body?

 

Hallucinations!  Mass hallucinations don't  produce the same image in the audience and don't  produce life changing responses.  These aren't  my conclusion  but the views of a top psychiatrist  consulted by Lee Strobel.

Discip.es stole the body, somebody else did it. A bunch of frightened  men crept passed a roman guard, move a heavy stone and removed a body. They then lied saying Jesus had risen! They didn't  believe Jesus had risen, why should they invent this tale.

They gained nothing except a hard life and early death.

Why should a n other move the body?

They went to the wrong tomb. Yes possible, but once it was fully light they would see there mistake or the authorities would simple point out Jesus was buried in tomb no, row number plot number etc etc.

 

Do you know of other possible alternative exp.anations other than that Jesus did rise from the dead.

[FJK]

2 minutes ago, Who me said:

Do you know of other possible alternative exp.anations other than that Jesus did rise from the dead.

None that rise above the level of simple sophism or make any sense at all.

[Eman_3]

On 10/11/2023 at 12:19 PM, Who me said:

If you can present a reasonable coherent  argument that shows that Jesus did not rise from the dead you will have destroyed Christianity.

One can not prove a negative. Instead, the claim must be proven, namely that Jesus existed.

[Eman_3]

On 10/12/2023 at 9:49 AM, Who me said:

Do you know of other possible alternative exp.anations other than that Jesus did rise from the dead.

Yes, that the entire story was fabricated or at least some very key elements were. Take note that there were no direct first-person accounts, just stories told to people verbally (telephone game), passed down for at least 300 years before anyone put this story to paper.

[Eman_3]

Getting back to before Jesus and the story of Exodus, the very nature of Egyptian society disproves that the Egyptians used slaves on this scale.

The Nile is subject to one huge flood every year, that begins the growing season. The people of Egypt farmed hard, collected their harvest, then they had a few idle months before the next flood. And since the purpose of the pyramid was to grant eternity not only for the Pharaoh but his peoples, it was not hard to find willing volunteers. Help build the pyramid and live forever or do not build the pyramid and you do not live forever.

One just needs to perform the simple task of a Google search for "were the pyramids built by slaves".

[FJK]

1 hour ago, Eman_3 said:

Getting back to before Jesus and the story of Exodus, the very nature of Egyptian society disproves that the Egyptians used slaves on this scale.

Can you elaborate on that?

[RV_Wizard]

14 hours ago, Eman_3 said:

One can not prove a negative. Instead, the claim must be proven, namely that Jesus existed.

The fact is, none of those who witnessed the resurrection ever recanted their testimony, even under torture and death.  Do you know 500 people who would face a gruesome death to promote a lie?  However, the GREATEST evidence of Christ's existence is that He still exists, He is willing to come into your life and change it for the better.  He is willing to exchange your uncertainty for inner peace.  He IS the king of kings and lord of lords.  You can come to know Him yourself if you simply open up the door to Him.  Do you know that 25% of Americans claim to have witnessed a miracle from God?  That's about 75 million people.  Jesus IS real.  Wise men still seek Him.

Jesus, who IS God and who WAS there at the time, verified that the exodus was a real event.  No, He's not going to PROVE the validity of His word to you.  You have to come to Him by faith.  Faith is the confident belief in things unproven.  When God proves Himself to you it's too late.  There is no longer any hope for salvation.  Faith is the only key to unlock the mysteries of the world.  The Bible is not revealed to the unsaved.  You can read it, but without the Holy Spirit you can never understand it.  

Question to you.  If the son of God, who witnessed the exodus, celebrate the Passover with the other Jews if He knew it never happened?

[RV_Wizard]

13 hours ago, FJK said:

Can you elaborate on that?

I realize that the modern education system is lacking.  Here is some information on the history of slavery.  It's actually accurate enough to mention that there are more than 40 million people enslaved today.

[Who me]

17 hours ago, Eman_3 said:

namely that Jesus existed

Oh dear, do keep up with modern research, only the ignorant believe Jesus never existed, do see what atheist historian Bart Erhman has to say:-

https://ehrmanblog.org/gospel-evidence-that-jesus-existed/

If you believe Jesus never existed then you have to argue and present your evidence.

[Who me]

17 hours ago, Eman_3 said:

Yes, that the entire story was fabricated or at least some very key elements were. Take note that there were no direct first-person accounts, just stories told to people verbally (telephone game), passed down for at least 300 years before anyone put this story to paper.

More inaccurate accusations.

Too sources for you to investigate, both started out as atheists, both were challenged to use their skills and intelligence  to investigate Christianity.

They did and having followed the evidence ended up as zchristians.

Lee Strobel a journalist, wrote the Case for Christ, his investigation, interviewing top experts to find out did Jesus exist, did he die, rise again.

James Warner Wallace a coldcase detective used his detective skills on Christianity, see the coldcase hristianity Web site for the resul5s of his investigation.

Historian both atheist and Christian believe that Paul received the credit statemen found in 1 Cor 15:3-5 within  2 years of Jesus resurrection.

 

Gospel, Matthew, Mark , Lake and John were written within 70 years of the crucifixion,  that's the maximum  time there is evidence that they were written  within 30 years. The failure  of any to mention the destruction of Jerusalem in ad 70.

Legal experts have written that the gospels display all the hallmarks of being accurate accounts either by eyewitnesses or by those who had eyewitnesses to question.

Telephone game, this was an oral society, used to memorising  large amounts of verbatim  conversation, it was not told once in a hurrid fashion but given in many sessions with opportunity to check what was being learn.