Know Jah Posted April 14 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 290 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 127 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 14 agree depression is sometimes hard to overcome. And this system is depressing in itself. However with the power Christ provides we don't have to stay in deep depression we can push through it. However sometimes we may need outside professional help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted April 14 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,599 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,063 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted April 14 One might consider experiencing Job's integrity by giving God thanks in all things, despite circumstance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOrangeCat Posted April 15 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 57 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,408 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 1,828 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted April 15 8 hours ago, warrior12 said: Realistically though, problems are not solved on their own. It takes effort from both our human abilities and our spiritual journey . Does not matter if we focus on just the spiritual part of our life, the cows still have to be milked, the roof still has to be replaced and sometime, if not often ,the help of community relief those burdens. I agree, and while we don't see much of Paul directly helping others in the Bible we get some clear statements made about helping others elsewhere. Jesus telling us to love our neighbors as ourselves, the instruction to bear one another's burdens, and the example James gives of faith without works being like seeing someone destitute and basically telling them "God bless you." and doing nothing to help them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnOrangeCat Posted April 15 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 57 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,408 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 1,828 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted April 15 8 hours ago, warrior12 said: Realistically though, problems are not solved on their own. It takes effort from both our human abilities and our spiritual journey . Does not matter if we focus on just the spiritual part of our life, the cows still have to be milked, the roof still has to be replaced and sometime, if not often ,the help of community relief those burdens. I agree, and while we don't see much of Paul directly helping others in the Bible we get some clear statements made about the importance of helping others elsewhere. Jesus telling us to love our neighbors as ourselves, the instruction to bear one another's burdens, and the example James gives of faith without works being like seeing someone destitute and basically telling them "God bless you.", then doing nothing to help them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vine Abider Posted April 16 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 6 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.37 Content Count: 3,434 Content Per Day: 6.23 Reputation: 2,285 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/25/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/2024 Author Share Posted April 16 On 4/14/2024 at 10:38 AM, warrior12 said: Realistically though, problems are not solved on their own. It takes effort from both our human abilities and our spiritual journey . Does not matter if we focus on just the spiritual part of our life, the cows still have to be milked, the roof still has to be replaced and sometime, if not often ,the help of community relief those burdens. Your question though, if one is not careful, can lead to neglect in family and other areas, so I think a balance has to be struck. 22 hours ago, AnOrangeCat said: I agree, and while we don't see much of Paul directly helping others in the Bible we get some clear statements made about helping others elsewhere. Jesus telling us to love our neighbors as ourselves, the instruction to bear one another's burdens, and the example James gives of faith without works being like seeing someone destitute and basically telling them "God bless you." and doing nothing to help them out. Agreed that there does need to be a balance in things, as extremes aren't usually effective . . . Yet, what this (the OP) is actually talking about is our source --> We can solve problems and do things for others all day long, yet if the source of our life is not in Christ and we are not going to Him for direction in the various matters, what does it profit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted April 16 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,429 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 16 23 minutes ago, Vine Abider said: Agreed that there does need to be a balance in things, as extremes aren't usually effective . . . Yet, what this (the OP) is actually talking about is our source --> We can solve problems and do things for others all day long, yet if the source of our life is not in Christ and we are not going to Him for direction in the various matters, what does it profit? I think for a believer, petition for our needs and for others are natural order, as we are encouraged in scripture to do so. I am sure or hope all would ask for divine providence and for the leading our life in the direction that would favor good outcomes. Also, we must portion out our time for chores and other daily necessary funcitons. Don't know how to ansewer further, but I take the point you are making with encouragement to persevere in all things in Christ. 1 Thessalonians 5 16 Be happy [in your faith] and rejoice and be glad-hearted continually (always); 17 Be unceasing in prayer [praying perseveringly]; 18 Thank [God] in everything [no matter what the circumstances may be, be thankful and give thanks], for this is the will of God for you [who are] in Christ Jesus [the Revealer and Mediator of that will]. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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