DaughterofKing Posted December 1, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 232 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2005 If someone is a mean, vicious, cruel, lying, greedy snake, how can I not judge them as being so? Should I live in lala land about it and watch them eat me alive???????? Also I must tell others that they are these things so they dont get eaten alive as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodischild Posted December 1, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 187 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/24/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1977 Share Posted December 1, 2005 If someone is a mean, vicious, cruel, lying, greedy snake, how can I not judge them as being so? Should I live in lala land about it and watch them eat me alive???????? Also I must tell others that they are these things so they dont get eaten alive as well. Not judging and loving your neighbor as yourself seem to be the same thing to me. Just hear me out on this one. AT some point I could have been described as mean, vicious, cruel, lying, and a greedy snake. Maybe I don't do it often, but I know I have said things that hurt people. I know I have spent money on myself that could have gone to the hungry. Here is the strange part, I don't consider myself a bad person. I make excuses for myself. I wouldn't have said that mean thing if she hadn't started it. I didn't want to lie, but the truth would have hurt him. I wasn't being cruel when I told her that she needed to go on a diet, I was trying to be honest and help her get healthy. It isn't my fault she went home and cried for hours. Or I tell myself that I'm not usually like this, so it all balances out in the end. So I do the same thing with other people. I don't know what they have been through, I don't know what motivates them, I don't know what their relationship with God is. So I give them the benefit of the doubt just like I would hope other people do for me. In the gospels I don't read that Jesus lived in lala land while they ate Him alive. He healed people, then told them to stop sinning. He told people when they were doing the wrong thing, or thinking the wrong way. He taught with patience, but not weakness. What I mean is there is a difference in how you express things as a Christian. Telling someone that you love them, forgive them, but can't be around them if they are going to treat you a certain way, or if they continue in a certain sin is one thing. You can express that as a message of hope-that you know they can be a good person and you want the best for them. Now, telling them that they are a sinner, useless, you hate them, and they ARE greedy and mean, and their head is full of dog poop-not the Christian way. That is judging. That is "you aren't good enough for me, watch me look down on you" kind of judging. I think that is the stuff we are supposed to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diet Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 jesus our perfect example ,was never critically judemental neither did he attacked anybody's personality[not even the woman caught in the act of aldutery]. he however gave warnings ,on how and who we should associate with.4 example he said 'we should be wise like a serpent,but gentle like a dove',when dealing with unbelivers.so we do not deep our hands into sin. he said,the disciples should 'beware of the lavens of the pharises ''.so that there good deeds dont get negatively influenced. hence their is a difference between when we are being judmental and when we warn someone off danger, or a negative character in them.we warn 'cos we love , and judge 'cos we feel we are beta than the other fellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 1, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted December 1, 2005 He did have some very harsh words to give to the Pharisees, Sadducees, teachers of the Law and the Scribes. And Herod at one point. Then there were the money changers at the Temple. Oh, and He gave the Caananite woman the cold shoulder until she expressed faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLW001 Posted December 1, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 164 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted December 1, 2005 He did have some very harsh words to give to the Pharisees, Sadducees, teachers of the Law and the Scribes. And Herod at one point. Then there were the money changers at the Temple. Oh, and He gave the Caananite woman the cold shoulder until she expressed faith. And Jesus said that He had not come to judge the world but to save it. You see, I can say, "You shouldn't steal", to a theif without judging him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mylittlelambs Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 It is not our place to judge people. If you see someone or something you dont like just dont comment. I have people who I do not like, I always say hi and have a great day. See by beaing nice to them you "heap the burning coals" on thier head for God's wrath. Just go by the old saying if you dont have anything nice to say dont say it. It really is not that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaughterofKing Posted December 1, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 232 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 mmm...yes but...ok, here is a scenario for instance... Say their was a mean, lying, cheating man...and my sister says to me, "Hmmm i think I will date him." and i tell her not to, and then she asks me why, what am i supposed to say "Um...never mind, go ahead and date him, i have no place to judge another man, perhaps he has changed since last night, so have fun!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerioke Posted December 1, 2005 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,850 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1911 Share Posted December 1, 2005 mmm...yes but...ok, here is a scenario for instance... Say their was a mean, lying, cheating man...and my sister says to me, "Hmmm i think I will date him." and i tell her not to, and then she asks me why, what am i supposed to say "Um...never mind, go ahead and date him, i have no place to judge another man, perhaps he has changed since last night, so have fun!!!!" All you have to do is provide the proof that he is a lying cheating man, then say no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted December 2, 2005 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted December 2, 2005 mmm...yes but...ok, here is a scenario for instance... Say their was a mean, lying, cheating man...and my sister says to me, "Hmmm i think I will date him." and i tell her not to, and then she asks me why, what am i supposed to say "Um...never mind, go ahead and date him, i have no place to judge another man, perhaps he has changed since last night, so have fun!!!!" All you have to do is provide the proof that he is a lying cheating man, then say no more. Yes that is good advice, the rest is up to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avidan Posted December 2, 2005 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 130 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/23/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted December 2, 2005 Never judge, that is YAHSHUA only. We are to discern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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