MrLuke Posted February 27, 2006 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 628 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/07/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1985 Share Posted February 27, 2006 There are such things as aliens. Christ even said it. Saints; we are in this world but not of it. The saints are aliens in this earth. Haha! I really hope you were only joking then...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted February 27, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 I don't believe in aliens at all. I believe God created us and us alone, otherwise why would He not say so otherwise? Surely if there were other beings, other than the spiritual - which I might add, God tells openly about - would He not tell us of them? Imagine how Genesis would have gone otherwise... "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and another earth... ... God created man for the earth and then God created another race for the other earth in the heavens above..." I did read a good explanation for the non-existance of aliens; and that was that the Bible clearly states that Jesus will return to collect His believers and roll up the earth and sky like a scroll. But if we hadn't fallen in the first place, earth would still be perfect and there would be no need for the whole Revelation scenario. Thus meaning that if other beings were present in the universe, they would get 'rolled up' with creation and destroyed because of our planets sins - because it sounds pretty clear that all of creation is destroyed and make new so if another planet started the same way we did but didn't fall then they would be unfairly wiped out too. I don't know if I wrote it out as well as I hoped to explain it, but I trust you catch my drift! Hello Luke, I thank you for your response. I do catch your drift and believe God would have given us a record of them being created if they are indeed real. Stay posted and thanks again for your opinion God Bless Openly Curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted February 27, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 There are such things as aliens. Christ even said it. Saints; we are in this world but not of it. The saints are aliens in this earth. Hello ruck1b, Thanks so much for your response, We as believers are aliens and pilgrims in this old world for sure. But I was referencing the other kind of alien beings unfortunately. Do you have any opinions of your own in this regards? Thanks for the reminder that we are indeed strangers and pilgrims in this world and look for a city like Abraham and all the other saints before us whose builder and maker is God. God Bless Openly Curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLuke Posted February 27, 2006 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 628 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/07/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1985 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Whats the joke...that the saints are aliens in this world. It is a truth. I will give a some def. for alien ......as taken from dictonary.com Alien Belonging to, characteristic of, or constituting another and very different place, society, or person; strange Dissimilar, inconsistent, or opposed, as in nature An unnaturalized foreign resident of a country. Also called noncitizen A person from another and very different family, people, or place A person who is not included in a group; an outsider Does this not describe the saints. We are citizens of another kingdom, we are of a different family, we are outsiders to this world. Saints we are aliens in this world. Yeah that's what I thought you were getting at. What I meant was I hoped that you were joking in the sense that you don't use the word 'alien' in the "ET" sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanraj Posted February 27, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 75 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/15/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/02/1988 Share Posted February 27, 2006 WE have a Much bigger Job to do than to discuss Aliens! Go into the world to preach the Gospel,Reach Out,The harvest is Plentiful but the labourers are few ...why...some of them are searching for aliens ...pumping in 50 billion dollars a year on reasearch .....when there is no mention of aliens in the bible .....50 billion....how many churches wld that be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanraj Posted February 27, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 75 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/15/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/02/1988 Share Posted February 27, 2006 This Article is totally false and is only put here for "LAUGHING YOUR HEART OUT AT STUPIDITY" purposes.Thanks! BIBLE PREDICTS ALIEN ATTACK 1. Bible UFO Prophecy Scenario 2. Bible Proof (ASpoof) KJV=King James Version GNB=Good News Bible Translation NEB=New English Bible The following scenario is based on research from the writings of the Jewish prophets, Jeremiah and Daniel and in the New Testament 1st John, Luke and Revelation. It is the opinion of this writer that the following scenario will begin very soon. This opinion is based on research into other areas of eschatology and does not reflect a declaration of an exact day or hour however. For this is forbidden! Bible UFO Prophecy Scenario: And so because of the alien threat from outer space the nations of the world unite and through the UN elect the first president of the newly formed one-world government. The world president, now having dictatorial powers, gives the order that all alien saucers that violate the earth's air space be shot down using the newly developed, multi-megawatt SBL Alpha Laser death-ray. Sixty-six saucers are shot down and crash to earth because of this new technology. The alien commander is surprised and filled with awe and respect because of his adversary, the UN President (antichrist). The nations of the world are adoringly grateful to the world president for his effective and saving leadership in defeating the aliens. They love his strong leadership. Bible Proof: Does all this sound like a science fiction story? Not if you believe in bible prophecy. In Daniel 8:9,10 (KJV) it states, "and out of one of them came forth a little horn (antichrist) which waxed exceeding great, toward the south and toward the east and toward the pleasant land. And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground and stamped upon them. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host." Revelation 13:4 says, "And the world worshipped the beast (antichrist) saying, who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?" As more truth about UFOs, alien abductions and UFO crashes come to light through the world's TV and printed media, the cover-up crumbles, then fear grips the nations of the world. But God gives comfort to Israel concerning the alien threat as stated in Jeremiah 10: 1,2 (GNB) "People of Israel, listen to the message that the Lord has for you. He says do not follow the ways of other nations, do not be disturbed by unusual sights in the sky even though other nations are terrified." And in Luke 21:11 GNB) "there will be terrible earthquakes, famine and plagues (aids, herpes, Ebola flesh eating viruses, Small Pox, super-killing influenza) everywhere; there will be strange and terrifying things coming from the sky "(UFOs). The NEB translations says, "In the sky terrors and great portents.." The American Standard St. Joseph Edition says, "Awesome sights and mighty signs will come from the sky." The question still arises. Will there indeed be an alien invasion of earth? The bible seems to hint that the world's people will perceive that an alien invasion is imminent. In Luke 21:26 it says, "Men's hearts failing them (cardiac arrests) for fear and for looking for those things which are coming on the earth." (KJV) Could the 1991 NASA STS-48 Starwars footage be a precursor to Daniel 8:9,10? Some UFO enthusiasts interpret the STS-48 footage (that was shown on "Sightings", "Hardcopy", "Encounters", "The Larry King Show", etc) as several alien spacecraft being fired on by U.S. Starwars technology (probably Brilliant Pebbles) but missed. Strangely, in 1991 the Alpha High Energy Laser (HEL) death-ray demonstrated megawatt class power levels in a low pressure, space operation environment: http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/sbl.htm the same year as the STS-48 incident, 1991. Many UFO researchers have wondered, are the extraterrestrials good or evil? Are they sinners like us? Do they have the ability to kill, lie, and do all the things that sinners here are capable of doing? The bible answers these questions in the affirmative. In 1st John 5:19 it says, "the whole world lieth in wickedness." In Strongs Exhaustive Concordance, page 43 in the Greek Dictionary section, the word "World" in that particular verse means Kosmos, which is the same as Cosmos or Universe. Therefore what it really says then is, "The whole universe lieth in wickedness (sin). Misinterpretation of the bible,own believes,and funny sightings....AlanRaj Please start laughing if you have not..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted February 27, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 aliens as in ET...I cant say yeah absoultly I cant say no absolutly. God has not givin us that insight. We must remember HIS WAYS ARE UNSEARCHABLE. All I know is that earth is here and we are here. Jesus is our deliverer, and that is all I care about. If there are ET's then I pray that they recieve the same grace. But if I had to make a choice I would say no, but since my salvation isnt hangin on if there are ET's or not I really could careless if one believes in aliens or not. Thanks so kindly for your opinion, and no our salvation sure doesn't hang on it thank God for that as Jesus is our deliver. And I do believe the Bible contains the answer. God Bless Once Again Openly Curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted February 27, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 (edited) WE have a Much bigger Job to do than to discuss Aliens! Go into the world to preach the Gospel,Reach Out,The harvest is Plentiful but the labourers are few ...why...some of them are searching for aliens ...pumping in 50 billion dollars a year on reasearch .....when there is no mention of aliens in the bible .....50 billion....how many churches wld that be Hello alanrah, Thanks for your response, First I take your post to mean you do not believe in alien beings and are in fact hostile towards the idea of them and there is certainly nothing wrong with having that view. Am I correct in my assestment of your post if not, just let me know. I do not understand from your post why you are even giving this thread any of your time since you do not think it is even worthy of us to be discussing such things. The time wasted on this thread could have been spent by you on doing the much bigger job. And that much bigger job is "VERY" much so important and not to be taken lightly I agree. But I would ask of you in your personal life how many topics do you discuss with others in one day that is not the preaching of the gospel. What may be worthy of a chat to one may not be to another as people do have questions and beliefs in these kinds of areas that need to be corrected and answered by the church. So I would ask you to leave that to the ones who choose to respond and share there opinions if it is worthy of discussion. As far as the government is concerned they spend to much of our money on nonsense all the time not just in regards to research on aliens which for the record I do not agree with. And if this is where your hotility thus lies I can understand it. And the Bible does hold the answers. God Bless Openly Curious Edited February 27, 2006 by Openly Curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted February 27, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 27, 2006 This Article is totally false and is only put here for "LAUGHING YOUR HEART OUT AT STUPIDITY" purposes.Thanks! BIBLE PREDICTS ALIEN ATTACK 1. Bible UFO Prophecy Scenario 2. Bible Proof (ASpoof) KJV=King James Version GNB=Good News Bible Translation NEB=New English Bible The following scenario is based on research from the writings of the Jewish prophets, Jeremiah and Daniel and in the New Testament 1st John, Luke and Revelation. It is the opinion of this writer that the following scenario will begin very soon. This opinion is based on research into other areas of eschatology and does not reflect a declaration of an exact day or hour however. For this is forbidden! Bible UFO Prophecy Scenario: And so because of the alien threat from outer space the nations of the world unite and through the UN elect the first president of the newly formed one-world government. The world president, now having dictatorial powers, gives the order that all alien saucers that violate the earth's air space be shot down using the newly developed, multi-megawatt SBL Alpha Laser death-ray. Sixty-six saucers are shot down and crash to earth because of this new technology. The alien commander is surprised and filled with awe and respect because of his adversary, the UN President (antichrist). The nations of the world are adoringly grateful to the world president for his effective and saving leadership in defeating the aliens. They love his strong leadership. Bible Proof: Does all this sound like a science fiction story? Not if you believe in bible prophecy. In Daniel 8:9,10 (KJV) it states, "and out of one of them came forth a little horn (antichrist) which waxed exceeding great, toward the south and toward the east and toward the pleasant land. And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground and stamped upon them. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host." Revelation 13:4 says, "And the world worshipped the beast (antichrist) saying, who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?" As more truth about UFOs, alien abductions and UFO crashes come to light through the world's TV and printed media, the cover-up crumbles, then fear grips the nations of the world. But God gives comfort to Israel concerning the alien threat as stated in Jeremiah 10: 1,2 (GNB) "People of Israel, listen to the message that the Lord has for you. He says do not follow the ways of other nations, do not be disturbed by unusual sights in the sky even though other nations are terrified." And in Luke 21:11 GNB) "there will be terrible earthquakes, famine and plagues (aids, herpes, Ebola flesh eating viruses, Small Pox, super-killing influenza) everywhere; there will be strange and terrifying things coming from the sky "(UFOs). The NEB translations says, "In the sky terrors and great portents.." The American Standard St. Joseph Edition says, "Awesome sights and mighty signs will come from the sky." The question still arises. Will there indeed be an alien invasion of earth? The bible seems to hint that the world's people will perceive that an alien invasion is imminent. In Luke 21:26 it says, "Men's hearts failing them (cardiac arrests) for fear and for looking for those things which are coming on the earth." (KJV) Could the 1991 NASA STS-48 Starwars footage be a precursor to Daniel 8:9,10? Some UFO enthusiasts interpret the STS-48 footage (that was shown on "Sightings", "Hardcopy", "Encounters", "The Larry King Show", etc) as several alien spacecraft being fired on by U.S. Starwars technology (probably Brilliant Pebbles) but missed. Strangely, in 1991 the Alpha High Energy Laser (HEL) death-ray demonstrated megawatt class power levels in a low pressure, space operation environment: http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/sbl.htm the same year as the STS-48 incident, 1991. Many UFO researchers have wondered, are the extraterrestrials good or evil? Are they sinners like us? Do they have the ability to kill, lie, and do all the things that sinners here are capable of doing? The bible answers these questions in the affirmative. In 1st John 5:19 it says, "the whole world lieth in wickedness." In Strongs Exhaustive Concordance, page 43 in the Greek Dictionary section, the word "World" in that particular verse means Kosmos, which is the same as Cosmos or Universe. Therefore what it really says then is, "The whole universe lieth in wickedness (sin). Misinterpretation of the bible,own believes,and funny sightings....AlanRaj Please start laughing if you have not..... Hello Again, Although this may seem very laughable to you as some of the things I hear myself that people believe in are funny to me. However, it doesn't dismiss the fact that there are Christians who in fact have been taken in by false teachings in regards to this type of belief and have erred in the faith. This kind of stuff is a serious religion to a lot of people and the church should be aware of this type of deception taking place. There is doctrine contained in the messages that comes along with the deception of alien beings as well that good people fall for and begin to believe in instead of the bible. We as Christians should fight against this deception with the truth found in all of God's Word. I am forever amazed at Christians saying they believe in re-incarnation for example and say they are a believer at the same time. Well we as the church should be vigilant and address such deception. It is real very real even in fact, to some that have been caught up in the whirlwind of these types of false teachings and deceptions especially, in the days we live in. I think back even to those people who comitted mass suicide following one of the UFO cult leaders I can't recall his name it was Apple White or something like that. But they were suppose to be waiting on a comet which was Hailbop (spelling may be off) at that time and believed death was the gateway to the next life as hailbop was a spacecraft coming to get them and was going to take them away to another planet. That was the belief that these people actually came to believe in and utimately died for. Well to you and I that sounds ridiculous and foolish but to those who got caught up in that web of deception they now have no hope of eternal life. People are hungry for answers in regards to the after life and will reach out in their quest for truth and will embrace all kinds of falsehoods to satisfy the hunger in their souls. We the church should provide these answers to those who seek on the issues. That is why I want to know from other Christians what there opinions in this area of alien beings are. I want to know what others think on these things for it is important to me for my own reasons. God Bless Openly Curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanraj Posted February 27, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 75 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/15/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/02/1988 Share Posted February 27, 2006 WE have a Much bigger Job to do than to discuss Aliens! Go into the world to preach the Gospel,Reach Out,The harvest is Plentiful but the labourers are few ...why...some of them are searching for aliens ...pumping in 50 billion dollars a year on reasearch .....when there is no mention of aliens in the bible .....50 billion....how many churches wld that be I do not understand from your post why you are even giving this thread any of your time since you do not think it is even worthy of us to be discussing such things. The time wasted on this thread could have been spent by you on doing the much bigger job. And that much bigger job is "VERY" much so important and not to be taken lightly I agree. But I would ask of you in your personal life how many topics do you discuss with others in one day that is not the preaching of the gospel. What may be worthy of a chat to one may not be to another as people do have questions and beliefs in these kinds of areas that need to be corrected and answered by the church. So I would ask you to leave that to the ones who choose to respond and share there opinions if it is worthy of discussion. God Bless Openly Curious Na..not hostile...Just wondering could we do something mush more significant then look in the sky for aliens thats all.My view!Thanx For The Reply.And yes...I share alot of topics outside of preaching the Gospel.Look out for it!HeHe.And yes,i chose to respond to the post...thats why....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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