Guest fromgoldtogrunge Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 can one loose his/her salvation? i have heard it before... but, i know i have been very sinnful. and i dont feel the preasence of the holy spirit any more in my life. Is this when i just give up? Is it possible for god to turn his back on me? - FromGoldToGrunge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted May 3, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted May 3, 2006 Gold, On what basis were you sure that you were in right relationship with God in the first place, and what has happened (other than your feelings) to tell you that has changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fromgoldtogrunge Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Well ericH, i accepted God into my life and Jesus as my personal saviour at camp, when i was 15. is that not the right relationship? and the stuff that has happened, well... my life is flowing downhill again, just like before i knew Jesus. Other than that i dont. all i know eric, is that i feel dead inside. -Fromgoldtogrunge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakota190 Posted May 4, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 640 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/14/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted May 4, 2006 (edited) can one loose his/her salvation? i have heard it before... but, i know i have been very sinnful. and i dont feel the preasence of the holy spirit any more in my life. Is this when i just give up? Is it possible for god to turn his back on me? - FromGoldToGrunge Gold, God will not turn his back on us. we however can turn our backs on him. if we feel far away from God, it is usually us that need to pull up the slack. are we spending time with God each day? are we studying his word? are we growing in our faith because of these things? even though we struggle and fall, if we are faithful to get back up and continue on our journey, in pursuit of God and we are faithful to repent and ask his forgiveness, he is faithful to forgive. he does however know what is in our hearts. if we mean what we are saying or if we are trying to pull a scam on him. we must be for him. we cannot serve two masters. gold, you must honestly look into yourself and be sure of your heart, towards God. salvation is not merely repeating a phrase, it is a state of mind, a lifestyle, and much, much more. a right relationship is not just a onetime act. accepting him into your heart as your savior, is not the end of things, it is the beginning of a wonderful, yet not always easy life. spending time with other christians, in a bible believing congregation is a very good way to learn exactly how to walk with the Lord, in a right relationship. we will be glad to help where we can, but a face to face, time investment, in a church is necessary to your growth. proper growth. are you in rebellion against the Lord, in what you do in your life? are you spending time with the wrong crowd?, there are many questions and actions such as these that must be considered, to walk in a right relationship with the Lord. good luck in your walk with Jesus. don't give up. to him that stays the course, is the reward given. Edited May 4, 2006 by dakota190 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi770 Posted May 4, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,316 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/01/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/01/1970 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Repent and forgive yourself. Then don't allow the devil to bring condemnation. Be Free in Jesus. As soon as you repent you will be restored. Seek Jesus-you shall find him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabowd Posted May 4, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,489 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted May 4, 2006 Well ericH, i accepted God into my life and Jesus as my personal saviour at camp, when i was 15. is that not the right relationship? What happened after that? Was there a change in your desires? Was there a change in your attitude or behavior? Did you grow spiritually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st. Worm Posted May 5, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,447 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/26/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted May 5, 2006 from Candi: "Repent and forgive yourself. Then don't allow the devil to bring condemnation. Be Free in Jesus. As soon as you repent you will be restored. Seek Jesus-you shall find him!!" from sw: Dear soul, you sound very young and I hope you did not really mean what you wrote above. Forgiving yourself is of absolutely no value before God. We believe we are forgiven by God for the sake of Jesus. That is the basic gospel. Self-forgiveness profits nothing except on Oprah and Dr. Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalcald Posted May 5, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,258 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/22/1960 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Well ericH, i accepted God into my life and Jesus as my personal saviour at camp, when i was 15. is that not the right relationship? and the stuff that has happened, well... my life is flowing downhill again, just like before i knew Jesus. Other than that i dont. all i know eric, is that i feel inside. -Fromgoldtogrunge A couple of things Fromgold. I feel dead inside sometimes also, yet I have been a believer all of my life. But I also know that I have been saved for 2000 years, ever since Christ rose from the dead and assured my forgiveness with God, thank God the work of Christ has nothing to do with our feelings, we can take great comfort in that. What do you mean your life is flowing downhill? Are you facing things like temptations, maybe your life has become a pattern of sin, or do you mean that things just are not going well in your life? I do know that life on this earth is often utter drudgery, we don't find any promises of happiness or worldly material, career or relationship success in the bible for this earth. We do find however a promise of eternal peace, of peace now and into the future and an eternal home with Christ our Lord. But the main promise we have is one of the forgiveness of all of our sins, totally blotted out as if they had never happened, hang on to this promise, pray, repent and continue to serve God as a person who is totally forgiven of your sins. Peace to you Fromgold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi770 Posted May 5, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,316 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/01/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/01/1970 Share Posted May 5, 2006 St Worm, Once the Lord forgives us of our sins-whose memory is left involved- Ours- if the Son of God has set you free you are free indeed. One must forgive their self and go on. You can not hang on to self-condemnation or condemnation from the devil. Some people do hang on to guilt-why-I don't know. But if God forgives thats all that matters. And yes-you can not hang on to that- Has nothing to do with Oprah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi770 Posted May 5, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 119 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,316 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/01/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/01/1970 Share Posted May 5, 2006 FromGold, I want to make myself clear- Repent from your sins(Speaking of the FatherGod)and do not condemn yourself. Blessings-Be free!! Candi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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