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[chattymae]

I agree, quite the negotiator, but I think he really believed in what he was asking for, or would not have been able to. He was talking to the Lord, can you imagine how powerful that must have been. I mean we talk to Him in prayer, but to have Him right there. Amazing!!!!!

Edited September 23, 2006 by chattymae

[Guest InHimIPray]

I'm just coming in on this(although I've been registered here for a while now). I hope to slip in here everyday and join the daily reading of a chapter a day. It would be most pleasant.

[Giaour]

Genesis 19

1. And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

2. And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

3. And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

4. But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5. And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

6. And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

7. And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

8. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

9. And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

10. But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.

11. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

12. And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:

13. For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it.

14. And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the Lord will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

15. And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.

16. And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the Lord being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.

17. And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.

18. And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:

19. Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:

20. Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.

21. And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.

22. Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.

23. The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.

24. Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;

25. And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

26. But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

27. And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the Lord:

28. And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.

29. And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.

30. And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.

31. And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

32. Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

33. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

34. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

35. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

36. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

37. And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

38. And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.

[Giaour]

At first, I was upset that Lot was willing to give his virgin daughters to the mob of men that wanted the angels, but then when the girls got their dad drunk and got pregnant by him, I figured it would have been better if he had given them away.

[Naziyr]

I find it interesting what goes on in Genesis 19:1-4

When the Angels (who weren't recognized as Angels by the sinful people of Sodom) came to the gate of the City, Lot was there hanging out at the gate. Lot was a righteous man who recognized them for who they were, and invited them into his house and placed himself as their servant recognizing their authority. He then made unleavened bread as well as a feast. What's the importance of unleavened bread? It represent Purity because it has no leavening in it (which is seen as yeast, which is unclean in certain ceremonial respects). The same unleavened bread was used at the Last Supper where Mosiach broke the bread and declared that "This is my body".

This bread is also VERY symbolic of what happens later on to the Nation of Israel. (skipping over some verses cause I don't want to make this a full page and disrupt the bible reading )

Genesis 12-17 Is sooooo awesome.

First the angels ask Lot if there is any one else besides himself and his family in the city ( Gen 19:12 ). Lot went out into the city and warned them about the coming judgement on the city ( Gen. 19:13,14 ). The angels then warned him again that the judgement was coming, yet he lingered... so the Angels led he and his wife by the hand out of the City (Gen 19:15,16). Once outside, the angels told him not to look back but to flee to the mountain, but instead he went to a smaller city nearby, for he was afraid of the mountain (Gen 19:17-22). When he had done so, the the sun had risen upon the earth (Gen 19:22).

Now how is this symbolic? Remember the Exodus? Here's a short comparison.

The two Angels entered in through the Gate of Sodom.

Moses and Aaron entered in through the gates of Egypt.

The Two Angels brought a message of freedom from Destruction.

Moses and Aaron brought a message of freedom from Slavery.

The Two Angels led Lot and his Wife (with family) out of Sodom by the hand (literally).

Moses and Aaron led the children of Israel out of Egypt by the hand (figuratively).

The Two Angels ate Unleavened Bread with Lot and his family shortly before leaving Sodom.

Moses and Aaron ate Unleavened Bread with Israelites before taking them out of Egypt.

The Two Angels urged Lot and his Family to go to the "mountain" to be safe.

Moses and Aaron urged the Israelites to go to the "mountain" to receive the Law of G-d.

Lot refused and did not go to the mountain because they were afraid.

The Israelites refused to "go to the mountain" because they were afraid.

The Angels destroyed the City killing everyone, destroying them (behind a fleeing Lot and Family) with Fire.

The Angel of Death smote the Egyptians killing many, and the Egyptian army was killed (behind a fleeing Israel) by an imploding sea (Water).

Anyways this has gotten to be a long post, sorry

Shalom

[chattymae]

I'm just coming in on this(although I've been registered here for a while now). I hope to slip in here everyday and join the daily reading of a chapter a day. It would be most pleasant.

Welcome to you....glad to have you with us.

[Giaour]

Yes Chatty,

Welcome indeed!

[chattymae]

Yes Chatty,

Welcome indeed!

Just spreading the love.....that is what we Macqueenies do, ya know. We need more Macqueenies, I think you would fit right in. Interested?????

[Giaour]

Sorry Chatty, on the resistance team already

[MrsSealedEternal]

This past chapter has a valuable lesson in it about looking ahead to our complete redemption and moving forward in living out our faith of His promises. Regarding Lots wife not looking back, if she would of only trusted and obeyed the Word spoken to her, she would of been saved from the judgement upon Sodom and Gomorrah...

Actually, this whole chapter has a way of really highlighting some disturbing failings in the character of Lot and his family.

It is interesting to me that these angels are referred to and seen as men, too...hmm...we were made just a little lower than the angels....some have unknowingly entertained angels...in the resurrection we will be like the angels, not given or taken in marriage...we are both referenced to as sons of God in scripture...some interesting food for thought!

Then in chapter 18, to think the Lord appeared and communed with Abraham like that. They had such a close intimacy with eachother through faith!

Abraham's negotiations with the Lord is reminder to me, when I see so much wickedness in the world, that God in His mercy was willing to spare a place full of wickedness on account of 10 righteous individuals.

I like the way I heard a certain bible teacher put it (paraphrasing)...

'...I used to think God was harsh in judging the world like He did with the worldwide flood, but sometimes when I see all the wickedness in the world, I now sometimes wonder why he doesn't do it more often.'

..then, that is when I call to remembrance this account of God's willingness to demonstrate His mercy.