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Is Jesus who He said He is?


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Process,

Are you here to disprove the Faith or for answers?

And what do you mean by "here for answers"? It can be very difficult to get straight answers out of Christians sometimes.

Not that difficult, Process:

Jesus is Lord.

He came, He died for you, for your sins, which you couldn't pay for yourself.

Thereby He offered you eternal life, which you couldn't otherwise attain.

When you grasp this basic concept, you will then be able to move on.

Failure to do this, however, will mean that you are stuck in a rut, in darkness.

when you realise and understand the basic premise outlined above, you are then ready to receive other revelations pertaining to your existence, purpose and destiny.

Is this too hard for you to understand? :21:

You either stand, or fall, at this point.

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Grace to you,

Process,

You know the Terms of Service here. I suggest you stick with them. :emot-eek:

Peace,

Dave

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Not that difficult, Process:

Jesus is Lord.

He came, He died for you, for your sins, which you couldn't pay for yourself.

Thereby He offered you eternal life, which you couldn't otherwise attain.

When you grasp this basic concept, you will then be able to move on.

Failure to do this, however, will mean that you are stuck in a rut, in darkness.

when you realise and understand the basic premise outlined above, you are then ready to receive other revelations pertaining to your existence, purpose and destiny.

Is this too hard for you to understand? :thumbsup:

You either stand, or fall, at this point.

(1) This doesn't look like "apologetics". You are posting in the wrong forum.

(2) This isn't much of an answer as to why Christians sometimes seem to find it difficult to give straight answers.

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Not that difficult, Process:

Jesus is Lord.

He came, He died for you, for your sins, which you couldn't pay for yourself.

Thereby He offered you eternal life, which you couldn't otherwise attain.

When you grasp this basic concept, you will then be able to move on.

Failure to do this, however, will mean that you are stuck in a rut, in darkness.

when you realise and understand the basic premise outlined above, you are then ready to receive other revelations pertaining to your existence, purpose and destiny.

Is this too hard for you to understand? :emot-fail:

You either stand, or fall, at this point.

(1) This doesn't look like "apologetics". You are posting in the wrong forum.

(2) This isn't much of an answer as to why Christians sometimes seem to find it difficult to give straight answers.

Our answers are as clear as can be. You just aren't listening.

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Our answers are as clear as can be. You just aren't listening.

As one example, what justification exists for the N.T. claim that:

Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. (Hebrews 9:22 RSV)

Can you give me a clear answer?

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Our answers are as clear as can be. You just aren't listening.

As one example, what justification exists for the N.T. claim that:

Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. (Hebrews 9:22 RSV)

Can you give me a clear answer?

In my own understanding, the answer is this:

under Old Testament law, and, indeed, since the beginning of creation, sin cannot be forgiven with blood being shed.

Under the New Testament Covenant, that requirement has been met by Jesus, who, as the sinless Son of God, allowed His blood to be shed for the FORGIVENESS OF SINS.

Do you understand this?

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Process,

In your opinion, what didn't Jesus do to prove He is the Messiah?

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In my own understanding, the answer is this:

under Old Testament law, and, indeed, since the beginning of creation, sin cannot be forgiven with blood being shed.

Under the New Testament Covenant, that requirement has been met by Jesus, who, as the sinless Son of God, allowed His blood to be shed for the FORGIVENESS OF SINS.

Do you understand this?

I think you have made a mistake here: "sin cannot be forgiven with blood being shed". Did you want to say "without"? Your position doesn't seem to be recognized in Judaism. Jews say that blood sacrifice is one way to atone for sin in the Old Testament. But it wasn't the only way to atone for sin, and it never atoned for all sins.

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Hence, the need for Jesus! :thumbsup:

t.

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Hence, the need for Jesus! :thumbsup:

The issue is whether Hebrews 9:22 is an accurate representation of Old Testament law.

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