Creation in 6 literal Days

[sweetycakes]

I agree. God made the world in six days. Literally.

For the question of context, I think that where He said that God created the world in six days, and rested on the seventh, and so should we, that is enough to show us that He wanted us to understand the word day in the literal sense of the word.

[Joshua-777]

It doesnt matter to our salvation but it does matter to our witnessing.

We have to be able to answer questions that seekers pose to us.

We must believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.

So to say that creation days were not 24 hour periods, it makes God a liar.

We all know that, that is not true.

Well, if there wasnt a sun or a moon, pretty much nothing in the first day, how could it be 24 hour days, when 24 hour days is the time it takes us to rotate one turn? I believe the word of God, but no where do I see it as a 24 hour day period, I've heard that a day to God is a thousand years to us, so therefore, God is not a liar, but he is not limited to our time, I dont feel his day is limited to our 24 hours.,

[sweetycakes]

It doesnt matter to our salvation but it does matter to our witnessing.

We have to be able to answer questions that seekers pose to us.

We must believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.

So to say that creation days were not 24 hour periods, it makes God a liar.

We all know that, that is not true.

Well, if there wasnt a sun or a moon, pretty much nothing in the first day, how could it be 24 hour days, when 24 hour days is the time it takes us to rotate one turn? I believe the word of God, but no where do I see it as a 24 hour day period, I've heard that a day to God is a thousand years to us, so therefore, God is not a liar, but he is not limited to our time, I dont feel his day is limited to our 24 hours.,

Neither do I believe that God is limited to 'our' time. But He is the creator of time, and He could very well have made the earth in six days, even before He created the 'solar' day which we know of.

Who can understand the mind of God?

[apothanein kerdos]

It doesnt matter to our salvation but it does matter to our witnessing.

We have to be able to answer questions that seekers pose to us.

We must believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.

So to say that creation days were not 24 hour periods, it makes God a liar.

We all know that, that is not true.

Well, if there wasnt a sun or a moon, pretty much nothing in the first day, how could it be 24 hour days, when 24 hour days is the time it takes us to rotate one turn? I believe the word of God, but no where do I see it as a 24 hour day period, I've heard that a day to God is a thousand years to us, so therefore, God is not a liar, but he is not limited to our time, I dont feel his day is limited to our 24 hours.,

Neither do I believe that God is limited to 'our' time. But He is the creator of time, and He could very well have made the earth in six days, even before He created the 'solar' day which we know of.

Who can understand the mind of God?

The problem is creation deals with the immanence of God, that is, His interaction with creation. When this occurs, we are to understand certain things about God.

[sweetycakes]

It doesnt matter to our salvation but it does matter to our witnessing.

We have to be able to answer questions that seekers pose to us.

We must believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.

So to say that creation days were not 24 hour periods, it makes God a liar.

We all know that, that is not true.

Well, if there wasnt a sun or a moon, pretty much nothing in the first day, how could it be 24 hour days, when 24 hour days is the time it takes us to rotate one turn? I believe the word of God, but no where do I see it as a 24 hour day period, I've heard that a day to God is a thousand years to us, so therefore, God is not a liar, but he is not limited to our time, I dont feel his day is limited to our 24 hours.,

Neither do I believe that God is limited to 'our' time. But He is the creator of time, and He could very well have made the earth in six days, even before He created the 'solar' day which we know of.

Who can understand the mind of God?

The problem is creation deals with the immanence of God, that is, His interaction with creation. When this occurs, we are to understand certain things about God.

And what are we to understand from this, in your opinion, AK?

[apothanein kerdos]

It doesnt matter to our salvation but it does matter to our witnessing.

We have to be able to answer questions that seekers pose to us.

We must believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.

So to say that creation days were not 24 hour periods, it makes God a liar.

We all know that, that is not true.

Well, if there wasnt a sun or a moon, pretty much nothing in the first day, how could it be 24 hour days, when 24 hour days is the time it takes us to rotate one turn? I believe the word of God, but no where do I see it as a 24 hour day period, I've heard that a day to God is a thousand years to us, so therefore, God is not a liar, but he is not limited to our time, I dont feel his day is limited to our 24 hours.,

Neither do I believe that God is limited to 'our' time. But He is the creator of time, and He could very well have made the earth in six days, even before He created the 'solar' day which we know of.

Who can understand the mind of God?

The problem is creation deals with the immanence of God, that is, His interaction with creation. When this occurs, we are to understand certain things about God.

And what are we to understand from this, in your opinion, AK?

THat the cop out on either side of the debate, well we can't know God's mind or God could have done this in any way, therefore we can't know...are essentially worthless. Because it deals with God's interaction with mankind, we can know and should know, even in a limited way.

[Giaour]

It doesnt matter to our salvation but it does matter to our witnessing.

We have to be able to answer questions that seekers pose to us.

We must believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.

So to say that creation days were not 24 hour periods, it makes God a liar.

We all know that, that is not true.

Well, if there wasnt a sun or a moon, pretty much nothing in the first day, how could it be 24 hour days, when 24 hour days is the time it takes us to rotate one turn? I believe the word of God, but no where do I see it as a 24 hour day period, I've heard that a day to God is a thousand years to us, so therefore, God is not a liar, but he is not limited to our time, I dont feel his day is limited to our 24 hours.,

God doesnt need a sun and a moon to declare that it was the first day.

He declared it WAS the first day.

You're saying that God can't make a day 24 hours because He hadnt created the sun and moon yet?

Why are you putting limits on what God can do?

Just because you "heard" something, it doesn't make it true.

Do I need to go and list ALL the miracles that God has done?

It is a literal 24 hour period because God said it was.

Who are we to make God conform to scientific beliefs.

Can science make a man walk on water?

Can science bring someone back from the dead after 3 days?

Can science change water into wine?

No, but God can.

If God said that it was the first day (evening and the morning) then with or without the sun and moon, it WAS the first day.

[sweetycakes]

It doesnt matter to our salvation but it does matter to our witnessing.

We have to be able to answer questions that seekers pose to us.

We must believe that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God.

So to say that creation days were not 24 hour periods, it makes God a liar.

We all know that, that is not true.

Well, if there wasnt a sun or a moon, pretty much nothing in the first day, how could it be 24 hour days, when 24 hour days is the time it takes us to rotate one turn? I believe the word of God, but no where do I see it as a 24 hour day period, I've heard that a day to God is a thousand years to us, so therefore, God is not a liar, but he is not limited to our time, I dont feel his day is limited to our 24 hours.,

God doesnt need a sun and a moon to declare that it was the first day.

He declared it WAS the first day.

You're saying that God can't make a day 24 hours because He hadnt created the sun and moon yet?

Why are you putting limits on what God can do?

Just because you "heard" something, it doesn't make it true.

Do I need to go and list ALL the miracles that God has done?

It is a literal 24 hour period because God said it was.

Who are we to make God conform to scientific beliefs.

Can science make a man walk on water?

Can science bring someone back from the dead after 3 days?

Can science change water into wine?

No, but God can.

If God said that it was the first day (evening and the morning) then with or without the sun and moon, it WAS the first day.

Right on the head, in my opinion

[forrestkc]

This time period would begin at the dawn of early man, approximately 5 to 6 million years ago, and end at approximately 130,000 years ago, the time that modern man first appeared in the fossil record.

This is a blatant lie.

Read your Bible.

There are less than 80 generations from Adam, THE FIRST MAN, to Jesus. Jude said that Enoch was the seventh man from Adam, just as the genealogies show. If jude is an inspired writer, then Enoch really was a seventh generation human being, and not a 1000th or a millionth generation.

If you believe the human race is 130,000 years old, then you do not believe the Bible, because you have to throw away entire chapters, and indeed entire books, which clearly show the human race is just a few dozen generations from the FIRST MAN to Jesus.

Adam was not "A first man", but THE first man. Every person alive is descended from one man, and that is adam, and one woman, who is eve.

I would argue that there is a huge amount of cognitive dissonance in your position. If one were to take everything related to creation and genealogy in scripture to be absolutely literal, then one would have to automatically disregard virtually all of science. In fact, we may as well just go back to the days of alchemy, and start teaching again that the earth is the center of the Universe.

I suppose we probably come from different theological camps and thus we are simply going to disagree on subjects like this. I come from the

[spiritman]

Any good lexicon or Hebrew speaking person can tell you that when;Evening and morning and a number is with the word yom it means a literal 24 hour hour day.

your lexicon is broken!

yom can mean a 24 hour period but it's primary usage is that of "epoch" or "age" as in The Day of the Dinosaur

and on the first day the "eretz" was formed which means land but is interpreted as Earth in English translations. So "Land" was created though it doesn't necessarily mean that land was the planet earth.

If you allow "yom" to mean age/epoch (since that is its primary definition) then there isn't a problem with "Old Earth" being completely inline with the biblical account. That doesn't support evolution though. A frog didn't turn into a monkey and then a man.

But there is no reason why a "yom" MUST be a 24 hour period. It can be 6 bazillion years or it can be .00006 nanoseconds.

Yod,

I'm surprised this is coming from you! and disappointed at the same time are you saying that you don't believe that God created the universe in 6 literal days.

Ok let's forget about the Lexicon a moment, and just use common sense. If the plants were created on day 3, and the sun wasn't created until day 4, and each of these day represent a long period of time, are you saying that you believe that plants can survive a long period of time without sun light? I don't think so. also you will note in Genesis that the insects used to pollenate the plants were made on day 6, that would be impossible for plants to reproduce. Hebrew must be used in the context of what is being said.

and in the context of Genesis days 1-7 it is a literal 24 hour period.

Plants can not survive without insects? Some plants maybe, not all. Old earth Creation does not hold that the Sun was created on the 4th day. Old earth creation holds that the current orbit of the earth, and its rotation on its axis was established on the 4th day.

How can young earth creation account for the same fact. God created the earth and nothing but the earth. He puts plants on it, then 24 hours later, He makes sun and planets. That is weird. We at leat believe the Stars and Planters were here, we just believe their organization was changed on day 4.

What! are you saying that the sun was made before day 4? What new doctrine is this? it's not the Bible I know!. As far as the plants go, if we follow the old earth way of thinking some plants would have survived yes; but we would certainly not have all the variety we see today.