DearJudy,OurLord Posted May 9, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 95 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/10/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/20/1980 Share Posted May 9, 2007 I'm confused if I go to court and have to swear by the Book ....but I remember what Jesus said Matthew 5:33-37 (New International Version) Oaths 33"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' 34But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. So what to do? Paul also taked about listening to our authorities??????????????????????????? all that is left is to stand 4 what i believe in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted May 9, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 8,281 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1955 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Most jurisdictions allow one to say they 'affirm' they will tell the truth...... However, one fellow refused saying that the Bible says 'Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.' He said simply that he was an inveterate liar, and since the Bible tells us we are all liars, he could not in conscience promise that ANYTHING he said would be true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeCajunboy Posted May 9, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 113 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,430 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 33 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/24/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/28/1952 Share Posted May 9, 2007 I'm confused if I go to court and have to swear by the Book ....but I remember what Jesus said Matthew 5:33-37 (New International Version) Oaths 33"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' 34But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. So what to do? Paul also taked about listening to our authorities??????????????????????????? all that is left is to stand 4 what i believe in Now, think that one through a bit??? You're putting your hand on the Bible (if you choose to, not manditory) and swearing to TELL THE TRUTH ! Unless it's your intention NOT to tell the whole truth....Why wouldn't you want to follow God's Law by lying or telling an untruth???? The swearing you reference is referring to several other common laws that people break everyday. This too offends God! I'm believing the the "swearing" that God abhors is when it deals with "lying" or judging against someone or something ! Or even using obscene language against another! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viajero Posted May 9, 2007 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 23 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/06/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/17/1945 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Its not so much what you believe, as what is the Holy Spirit saying. "The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life 2Cor.3:6. Look to your spirit in this matter, do you have a sense of life or death. If you look to what you believe, you could be mistaken. This is where growth is needed, in Hebrews 5:13-14; we are told about "milk" and "strong meat". Strong meat is for those who have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Knowing what to do in these situations comes from discerning by the Spirit whether an action is right or wrong (good and evil) by the Lord, and not by our particular belief of a scripture. But certainly, we must have the Word as our guide, for it is a lamp to our feet and a light to our path. In prayer, turn to your spirit and and say, "I choose Your will in this", and trust God for the outcome. Let's not go to the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil". Remember, you have the knowledge of good and evil on the same tree, and they both lead to death. Go to the Tree of Life, Christ. I'm confused if I go to court and have to swear by the Book ....but I remember what Jesus said Matthew 5:33-37 (New International Version) Oaths 33"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' 34But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; 35or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. 36And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. 37Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. So what to do? Paul also taked about listening to our authorities??????????????????????????? all that is left is to stand 4 what i believe in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern lass Posted May 9, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 106 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,072 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 25 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/13/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1948 Share Posted May 9, 2007 When I went to court a few years ago I chose to affirm on the basis that my yes would be yes and my no no. It wasn't a problem. My testimony was accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DearJudy,OurLord Posted May 9, 2007 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 95 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/10/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/20/1980 Author Share Posted May 9, 2007 THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HELP ITS DEF A PRAYING MATTER ALSO THANKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnie Posted May 9, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted May 9, 2007 I have no problem "swearing to tell the truth." Some denominations take that teaching to a wild extreme not intended by Jesus. My goodness, we need to understand the whole counsel of the Word of G-d, not just an isolated verse or two. When God made his promise to Abraham, since there was no one greater for him to swear by, he swore by himself. Heb. 6:13 If it's good enough for the Lord, it's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Most jurisdictions allow one to say they 'affirm' they will tell the truth...... However, one fellow refused saying that the Bible says 'Let God be true and EVERY man a liar.' He said simply that he was an inveterate liar, and since the Bible tells us we are all liars, he could not in conscience promise that ANYTHING he said would be true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtwo Posted May 10, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,144 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1978 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Yup. When administering an oath, you can ask either ask the person which they are more comfortable, or you can simply ask whether they "swear or affirm" ... also, putting one's hand on the Bible is almost never done. (I'm a licensed notary, and former court reporter.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabowd Posted May 12, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,489 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted May 12, 2007 I have no problem "swearing to tell the truth." Some denominations take that teaching to a wild extreme not intended by Jesus. My goodness, we need to understand the whole counsel of the Word of G-d, not just an isolated verse or two. When God made his promise to Abraham, since there was no one greater for him to swear by, he swore by himself. Heb. 6:13 If it's good enough for the Lord, it's good enough for me. If anyone should be proud to declare the truth, it should be believers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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