Emily~Anne Posted May 26, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 146 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,308 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted May 26, 2007 How did you, E.A., confuse emotion with documented event accuracy? I never said it didn't happen, only that God didn't enjoy it. And your point that God didnt enjoy it (post#71) , what is that in response to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OopsMartin Posted May 26, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 829 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1943 Share Posted May 26, 2007 ...I've no idea what you are talking about. I suppose you're refering to when I said: I just don't like the idea of God, with a big smiling face, smashing babies. The thought really breaks my heart and I was hoping David was exaggerating a little bit, as was a common practice among prophets(hyperbole). I was speaking of these verses: Psalm 137:8-9 8)O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us- 9)he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. Ezekiel 18:23 23)Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live? They both assume to know exactly how God feels about killing. David says, "happy is He..." whereas Ezekiel says,"Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked?" Clearly a contradicting of emotions in how God feels about death, whether innocent children or wicked men. The Chicago statement doesn't "validate" my belief, AK, it simply clarified the issues of personalities affecting scriptures. Well, None, some research into the historical setting might help. Psalm 137 Longing for Zion in a Foreign Land 1 By the rivers of Babylon, There we sat down, yea, we wept When we remembered Zion. 2 We hung our harps Upon the willows in the midst of it. 3 For there those who carried us away captive asked of us a song, And those who plundered us requested mirth, Saying, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted May 26, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted May 26, 2007 'None' 8)O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us- 9)he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. In this passage in Psalms the emotions depicted by David were accurate and true for the Babylonians did grave harm to the Southern kingdom of Israel they burned the city of Jerusalem took all the holy vessels out of the temple and were cruel to God's people as they became captives and were marched away into captivity. And those in this position from their enemies it was a good thing if the Babylonian children were killed as infants as they would grow up only to mistreat them as the Babylonians had no respect unto the God of Israel just read the book of Daniel to see what kind of people they were. So what emotions were expressed here were true emotions coming from the oppressed people of God in Babylonian captivity at the time. But Babylon was doomed to destruction in time. 23)Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live? Here it is God expressing Himself as these emotions are true from God as well for He doesn't take any pleasure when the wicked die in their sins without God. But instead God is very well pleased whenever a person turns from their wicked ways back to Him and thus is saved for doing so and can have eternal life should they die. David says, "happy is He..." whereas Ezekiel says,"Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked?" Clearly a contradicting of emotions in how God feels about death, whether innocent children or wicked men. No, there are no contradicting emotions the emotions expressed were true emotions being conveyed to us. Not having an understanding of what is being said in the passage makes a big difference in the interpretation of things. But each of the passages of scripture is the correct emotions that was meant to be portrayed no contradictions at all. OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
None Posted May 26, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,513 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/05/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1908 Share Posted May 26, 2007 ...I've no idea what you are talking about. I suppose you're refering to when I said: I just don't like the idea of God, with a big smiling face, smashing babies. The thought really breaks my heart and I was hoping David was exaggerating a little bit, as was a common practice among prophets(hyperbole). I was speaking of these verses: Psalm 137:8-9 8)O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us- 9)he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. Ezekiel 18:23 23)Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live? They both assume to know exactly how God feels about killing. David says, "happy is He..." whereas Ezekiel says,"Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked?" Clearly a contradicting of emotions in how God feels about death, whether innocent children or wicked men. The Chicago statement doesn't "validate" my belief, AK, it simply clarified the issues of personalities affecting scriptures. Well, None, some research into the historical setting might help. Psalm 137 Longing for Zion in a Foreign Land 1 By the rivers of Babylon, There we sat down, yea, we wept When we remembered Zion. 2 We hung our harps Upon the willows in the midst of it. 3 For there those who carried us away captive asked of us a song, And those who plundered us requested mirth, Saying, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OopsMartin Posted May 26, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 829 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1943 Share Posted May 26, 2007 8 O daughter of Babylon, who are to be destroyed, Happy the one who repays you as you have served us! 9 Happy the one who takes and dashes Your little ones against the rock! None, that is not saying that God would be happy. That is a style of speaking (in this case song writing) where David is saying that the one who conquers Babylon is going to enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
None Posted May 27, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 39 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,513 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 5 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/05/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1908 Share Posted May 27, 2007 David is saying that the one who conquers Babylon is going to enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OopsMartin Posted May 27, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 829 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1943 Share Posted May 27, 2007 David is saying that the one who conquers Babylon is going to enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emily~Anne Posted May 28, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 146 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,308 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted May 28, 2007 I dont find it necessary to agree with God, but rather just to trust God. Refer to last verse in my signature. (From Isaiah) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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