Guest lovinghim4ever Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Jesus answered, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 A sinner who does not know the will of God will end up in hell. Also, anybody who knew the will of God and did it not will also end up in hell, but will receive more stripes (beatings) than the one who did not know. Judas is going to get a much sorer punishment in hell than a lot of other people for betraying Christ. This made me think of another verse where Jesus was talking about it being better if Judas had not been born. That's a pretty sobering thought when you remember this was said by Jesus himself. Mat 26:24 The Son of Man will go as it is written about him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would be better for him if he had never been born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsth Posted June 20, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 297 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 5,586 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 193 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/09/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2007 Very good question and posts! I thought it was very thought-provoking. In His Love, Suzanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted June 20, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2007 He was speaking of Judas. Judas sat under Jesus' teaching and heard directly what Jesus had to say. He still chose to betray him. Judas's sin was wilfull and with full knowledge. Pilate on the other hand was acting based on what others said, and without a background in the religion of the Hebrews. He was more ignorant of the facts about Jesus than Judas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeCajunboy Posted July 16, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 113 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,430 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 33 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/24/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/28/1952 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Jesus answered, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffnevins Posted July 16, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 207 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 806 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 141 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/09/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/21/1973 Share Posted July 16, 2007 The only confusing thing about Judas & his fate is- wasn't he assisting in God's plan of Christ being taken to the cross & eventually raised for our sins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansasdad Posted July 16, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,227 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/19/1964 Share Posted July 16, 2007 The teaching that all sins are equal is not Biblical. It is true that any sin is too much sin to be in the kingdom of heaven and only because of Jesus Christ do any of us even have the possibility to be included in the kingdom of God. But not all sins are equal. Some sins separate us from God. God Bless, K.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricH Posted July 16, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 366 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,933 Content Per Day: 1.57 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/21/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 16, 2007 The teaching that all sins are equal is not Biblical. It is true that any sin is too much sin to be in the kingdom of heaven and only because of Jesus Christ do any of us even have the possibility to be included in the kingdom of God. But not all sins are equal. Some sins separate us from God. God Bless, K.D. All sin separates us from God. God is Holy and as such He cannot associate or approve of any sin. Sins are all the same in the sense that they separate us from God and need forgiveness. They differ in their consequences in the lives of both the individual who commited them and the victims. For example, one lie would doom a person eternally just as a murder would. Christ's blood paid for them both. James said this: For whoever keeps the entire law, yet fails in one point, is guilty of breaking it all. James 2:10 HCSB However, the consequences of the sins could be very different. If I lie about eating a cookie before dinner (that was a common one for me) the temporal consequences I suffer (and my mom suffered as a result of my lie) would be less than if I had killed her or someone she loved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
methinkshe Posted July 16, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 679 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/02/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted July 16, 2007 The teaching that all sins are equal is not Biblical. It is true that any sin is too much sin to be in the kingdom of heaven and only because of Jesus Christ do any of us even have the possibility to be included in the kingdom of God. But not all sins are equal. Some sins separate us from God. God Bless, K.D. All sin separates us from God. God is Holy and as such He cannot associate or approve of any sin. Sins are all the same in the sense that they separate us from God and need forgiveness. They differ in their consequences in the lives of both the individual who commited them and the victims. For example, one lie would doom a person eternally just as a murder would. Christ's blood paid for them both. James said this: For whoever keeps the entire law, yet fails in one point, is guilty of breaking it all. James 2:10 HCSB However, the consequences of the sins could be very different. If I lie about eating a cookie before dinner (that was a common one for me) the temporal consequences I suffer (and my mom suffered as a result of my lie) would be less than if I had killed her or someone she loved. One of those thumbs up emoti-jobs that I refuse to learn how to use, rebellious so-and-so that I am! Ruth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansasdad Posted July 17, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,227 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/19/1964 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I agree Christ Blood is the only reason we can be forgiven for any sin. I think I tried to say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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