nebula Posted March 29, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 29, 2008 We may all see some attributes we have familiarity with in each tribe but there is one tribe ususally that will stand out. I understand, and I agree. We all need to "stand in the gap," but I have noticed that some do so as a calling for their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia1 Posted March 29, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,858 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1957 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 Amen..Nebula and we will not know who Jesus burden on our behalfs until we get up there. Amazing! Sometimes I just fell like thanking him. Just looking up and saying thanks! I do! There is always some type of controversy with the stones...( a big sigh) This one has to do with the order. If the orders are reverse Levi woul be emerald and Judah would be garnet. I lean towards Levi being Garnet.... Because of its qualities. Garnet~~~ The Levite stone. The latin word granatum means garnet and it also means pomagranite. Because of the redness of the seed and juice resembling the garnet and the pomagranite is part of the levite priestly garment I am stickin with garnet. The fruit itself symbolizes fruitfuleness and righteousness also signifying the Blood of Jesus which is the propiation for our sins, which is the Levites mediation call for the sacrificial offering. Blood!! And of a pure sacrifice as well. It was also use as bullets in anciet times...although one may think this is farfetched, I would say that used evilly when one can see the spiritual significance of the power of the blood...whichhas the power against all things to ward off evil , darkness. The garnet once took life and now brings life. next will be the prophecy... we know from Simeons of thier fireceness so I will go to Moses Deut.33:8-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted March 29, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 29, 2008 (edited) Reuben - "A son....A new beginning" (raah meaning to make to enjoy; to present ben anointed one a son) Reuben signified to me Salvation and a new beginning in Christ Jesus that I obtained through the cross, happy in that joyous love affair with Jesus. Symbol - the sun or blossoming...a new beginning as the sun is the beginning of a new day Breastplate stone - Sardius = (odem) it comes from the root word Adam...which means ruddy, red, flushed, from the earth; or Ruby = blood of redemption over the past, forgiveness Simeon - "he hears" (shimown (shim-one) one who hears and obeys) Simeonites could hear those nudgings that some cannot hear. You do not have to tell them more than once. It must be a breath of fresh air for the Lord to command a Simeonite. But they learn the things they learn from rebellion and suffering, yet they become a Spirit led , controlled by God tribe. (Hebrews 5:8) Symbol - the pitcher and dagger...the earthen vessel & a hand to hand combat weapon; crucifying that flesh, Simeon is a mighty warrior Breastplate stone - topaz = wisdom ("the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom") Levi - "Joined, fastened to, devoted to, united, knotted" The person whom has a levite spirit can carry the burden of the Lord without ever laying it down. They are ever so faithful to the burden of heart they obtain from their father. Symbol - the breastplate which holds the twelve different stones of the tribes of Israel (breastplate of judgment) Breastplate stone - Garnet = blood (sacrificial) Edited March 30, 2008 by nebula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted March 29, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Hey, patricia - I never caught what the stone for Reuben symbolized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia1 Posted March 30, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,858 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1957 Author Share Posted March 30, 2008 I am sorry... forgot all about it after discussing it . If we go with sardius (odem) it comes from the root word Adam...which means ruddy, red, flushed, from the earth. It may be appropiate due to the fact adam was the new Beginning It may be our Ruby. darker red. It was soft enough to be engraved upon and worked with like in forms. It was also use to make seals due to the fact wax does not or I should say not supposed to stick to it. Still representing the blood and we cannot come to the Lord with out it. This is saving redemptive blood...The levites garnet is more the staying power because of the redemption blood. Does that make sense? Every time rueben saw his weaknesses he had to remeber the Blood-covering telling us God does not look at our past failures. weaknesses . we have forgiveness through the blood of Jesus and they are covered under the blood when we come to Him. Forgiving Blood.... Halleluja and praise the Lord.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted March 30, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 30, 2008 OK - I updated the summary. Am I getting the key points as you see them correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraught Posted March 30, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 105 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,741 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/23/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/30/1959 Share Posted March 30, 2008 If we go with sardius (odem) it comes from the root word Adam...which means ruddy, red, flushed, from the earth. It may be appropiate due to the fact adam was the new Beginning i pulled that out of your post patricia because it's interesting how that describes adam, then reuben, then david! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia1 Posted March 30, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,858 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1957 Author Share Posted March 30, 2008 There are so many tributaries of the word leading to the word, It is like a tapestry of truth that never ends. There is soooo much I don't know and my finite mind will not be able to comprehend the infinity of our Lord anf Living word. And just think some people think the word is man written!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia1 Posted March 30, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,858 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1957 Author Share Posted March 30, 2008 OK - I updated the summary. Am I getting the key points as you see them correctly? Looks great to me... maybe we can put a booklet together., short with your summary.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted March 30, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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