AlexanderBrown Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/02/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted July 10, 2008 You see.. I am multi-martial art (Meaning I practice more then 1).. well my favorite one and the first one I started learning was Ninjutsu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjutsu alot of info there). I see 17 out of the 18 skills ok, I mean everyone should learn how to protect themselves and their loved ones. But the 1st one listed on the page which is; Seishin-teki kyōyō (Or Spiritual Refinement) which means we have to meditate... so far I have been able to escape meditating since I got saved about 10 Months ago. For those 10 Months I have done something similar to meditation.. What do you think, is meditation Ok to do, or is it not. Before this turns into a total Flamefest; I havent actually meditated for a bit, I just need your opinions, as I would like to be able to get back into Meditation and I really am not a genius (Believe me Im not) and I need more then One person's, even a person I respect alot, opinion. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iryssa Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 117 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,860 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/13/1984 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Like a lot of things, many such philosophies contain a grain of truth (no one would believe a lie that was unbelievable, so the devil's tricky enough to warp truth rather than make something out of nothing). There is a Christian way to meditate: meditate upon the Word, store up its truths in your heart and ponder them. Pray. There's no reason you couldn't do those things in the place of the eastern meditation techniques (and I think prayer and meditation upon the Word will be the TRUE source of spiritual wholeness and refinement). You could do this even while going through the different meditative positions, if you use those (I don't know much about the positions themselves, my knowledge of the martial arts is, albeit, quite limited, but I do understand that there are many differences between the different forms practiced), but you could even relate different verses or biblical truths to different positions and as you transition to a different position you would be thinking on another aspect of God and your relationship with Him (etc.), for example...I don't know...does that sound like something that would work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderBrown Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/02/2008 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 10, 2008 (edited) Like a lot of things, many such philosophies contain a grain of truth (no one would believe a lie that was unbelievable, so the devil's tricky enough to warp truth rather than make something out of nothing). There is a Christian way to meditate: meditate upon the Word, store up its truths in your heart and ponder them. Pray. There's no reason you couldn't do those things in the place of the eastern meditation techniques (and I think prayer and meditation upon the Word will be the TRUE source of spiritual wholeness and refinement). You could do this even while going through the different meditative positions, if you use those (I don't know much about the positions themselves, my knowledge of the martial arts is, albeit, quite limited, but I do understand that there are many differences between the different forms practiced), but you could even relate different verses or biblical truths to different positions and as you transition to a different position you would be thinking on another aspect of God and your relationship with Him (etc.), for example...I don't know...does that sound like something that would work? Yes It sounds like it does work! Great idea. I think ill do that.. Thank you Iryssa, I have now found a Way to continue Studying all of what my martial art... There are many Definitions of "Meditation" and one is simply; Contemplation. So Ill just Contemplate My and God's Relationship, or a scripture. Thanks Again Iryssa! Alex Edited July 10, 2008 by AlexanderBrown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo1 Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,822 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/23/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/16/1967 Share Posted July 10, 2008 You see.. I am multi-martial art (Meaning I practice more then 1).. well my favorite one and the first one I started learning was Ninjutsu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjutsu alot of info there). I see 17 out of the 18 skills ok, I mean everyone should learn how to protect themselves and their loved ones. But the 1st one listed on the page which is; Seishin-teki kyōyō (Or Spiritual Refinement) which means we have to meditate... so far I have been able to escape meditating since I got saved about 10 Months ago. For those 10 Months I have done something similar to meditation.. What do you think, is meditation Ok to do, or is it not. Before this turns into a total Flamefest; I havent actually meditated for a bit, I just need your opinions, as I would like to be able to get back into Meditation and I really am not a genius (Believe me Im not) and I need more then One person's, even a person I respect alot, opinion. Alex high you can log on chuck noris web page and he wil be able to help you out he is a christian and his heart is in the right place i know where you are comming from as i use self defence my self and have done some martial arts in my younger days the christians in the philippines know how to handle them selves my partner is a female pastor and she has been taught from a young age she only uses martial arts when she feels she is going to be harmed she is only a small women and a very pretty women all the single women and married women know how to protect them selves i know what you mean christians can sometimes blow it with out looking at what is being said in a post when some one comes searching especialy on forums like this we need to respect the person where they are at and allow them to express them selves you have a free wil and dont let no one take that free will off you i know christians who have done good i also know sevral security gaurds who are black belts and these guys reach out to the ones the church finds hard to reach out too its like telling chritians who live in america they cant arm them selves and protect their property or family from harm america has a lot off freedoms other countrys dont have hear in Australia we cant walk into a shop and purchase a gun and then carry the weapon we have purchased like you can in america even though us aussies want the same right my american brothers and sisters have we have to abide by the laws but it does not stop us from prottecting our home or our loved ones i know a pastor who used martial arts to protect him self from 4 guys and i know another pastor who only used his thongs to defend him self this crazy guy came at him with a sharp knife and if the pastor did not use his head he would be dead their is nothing wrong with using martial arts wher we come unstuck is when we bow to the spirits these guys worship i use to watch kung foo when i was a child and i liked bruce lee i watched all his movies and was hooked most of my asian and chines friends know martial arts and watching these guys blows me away they even teach their kids from a young age even their women know how to handle them selves i learnt Judo and kick boxing i hope no one comes down on you and your questions are answered honestly welcome to the forum log onto chuck noris web sight and have a look at it you can leave questions and you will have your questions answered God bless from damo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderBrown Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/02/2008 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 10, 2008 You see.. I am multi-martial art (Meaning I practice more then 1).. well my favorite one and the first one I started learning was Ninjutsu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjutsu alot of info there). I see 17 out of the 18 skills ok, I mean everyone should learn how to protect themselves and their loved ones. But the 1st one listed on the page which is; Seishin-teki kyōyō (Or Spiritual Refinement) which means we have to meditate... so far I have been able to escape meditating since I got saved about 10 Months ago. For those 10 Months I have done something similar to meditation.. What do you think, is meditation Ok to do, or is it not. Before this turns into a total Flamefest; I havent actually meditated for a bit, I just need your opinions, as I would like to be able to get back into Meditation and I really am not a genius (Believe me Im not) and I need more then One person's, even a person I respect alot, opinion. Alex high you can log on chuck noris web page and he wil be able to help you out he is a christian and his heart is in the right place i know where you are comming from as i use self defence my self and have done some martial arts in my younger days the christians in the philippines know how to handle them selves my partner is a female pastor and she has been taught from a young age she only uses martial arts when she feels she is going to be harmed she is only a small women and a very pretty women all the single women and married women know how to protect them selves i know what you mean christians can sometimes blow it with out looking at what is being said in a post when some one comes searching especialy on forums like this we need to respect the person where they are at and allow them to express them selves you have a free wil and dont let no one take that free will off you i know christians who have done good i also know sevral security gaurds who are black belts and these guys reach out to the ones the church finds hard to reach out too its like telling chritians who live in america they cant arm them selves and protect their property or family from harm america has a lot off freedoms other countrys dont have hear in Australia we cant walk into a shop and purchase a gun and then carry the weapon we have purchased like you can in america even though us aussies want the same right my american brothers and sisters have we have to abide by the laws but it does not stop us from prottecting our home or our loved ones i know a pastor who used martial arts to protect him self from 4 guys and i know another pastor who only used his thongs to defend him self this crazy guy came at him with a sharp knife and if the pastor did not use his head he would be dead their is nothing wrong with using martial arts wher we come unstuck is when we bow to the spirits these guys worship i use to watch kung foo when i was a child and i liked bruce lee i watched all his movies and was hooked most of my asian and chines friends know martial arts and watching these guys blows me away they even teach their kids from a young age even their women know how to handle them selves i learnt Judo and kick boxing i hope no one comes down on you and your questions are answered honestly welcome to the forum log onto chuck noris web sight and have a look at it you can leave questions and you will have your questions answered God bless from damo Alright.. I will check it out. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeybee88 Posted July 10, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 746 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/25/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/30/1988 Share Posted July 10, 2008 This makes me so thankful that my jujutsu teachers are Christians and don't bring in any of the Eastern religion junk, if you'll pardon my political incorrectness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderBrown Posted July 11, 2008 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 11 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/02/2008 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 This makes me so thankful that my jujutsu teachers are Christians and don't bring in any of the Eastern religion junk, if you'll pardon my political incorrectness! I was only taught Ninjutsu for.. uhhh 3-4 years. Now Im just remembering what ive already learned (Which in truth is alot) and some newer things I learned since then (Being watching some videos). What really sucks is I did this martial art for 8 Years Before I got saved. Meditating all that time. It was kind of hard to get out of it when I got saved as I was unsure. Ive seen some crazy things done with meditation.. Ive done some of that stuff myself... I wanna see if I could do that with Iyrssa's suggestion. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 This makes me so thankful that my jujutsu teachers are Christians and don't bring in any of the Eastern religion junk, if you'll pardon my political incorrectness! I was only taught Ninjutsu for.. uhhh 3-4 years. Now Im just remembering what ive already learned (Which in truth is alot) and some newer things I learned since then (Being watching some videos). What really sucks is I did this martial art for 8 Years Before I got saved. Meditating all that time. It was kind of hard to get out of it when I got saved as I was unsure. Ive seen some crazy things done with meditation.. Ive done some of that stuff myself... I wanna see if I could do that with Iyrssa's suggestion. Alex Meditating on God's Word is the best thing you can do. Just keep in mind as you start that the devil may fight you for a bit - he always does when we try to draw closer to Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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