buckthesystem Posted August 7, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 1,706 Topics Per Day: 0.26 Content Count: 3,386 Content Per Day: 0.51 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/12/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/10/1955 Share Posted August 7, 2008 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398466,00.html FBI Used Aggressive Tactics in 'Anthrax Killer' Investigation Tuesday , August 05, 2008 WASHINGTON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mathqueen Posted August 7, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/16/1975 Share Posted August 7, 2008 My husband is absolutely convinced that this guy is a scapegoat. I don't know what to think, but this sure does stink... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted August 7, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted August 7, 2008 My husband is absolutely convinced that this guy is a scapegoat. I don't know what to think, but this sure does stink... His psychiatrist has sworn under oath that 1. he was a homicidal sociopath, 2. she was terrified of him, 3. he has attempted to kill people who wronged him in the past and 4. he told her he was going to kill his coworkers in the lab. She also took out a restraining order against him several weeks ago. So, unless his doctor is a liar with an axe to grind, he probably did send the anthrax....since he had access to it and wanted credit for developing the antidote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathqueen Posted August 7, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/16/1975 Share Posted August 7, 2008 His psychiatrist has sworn under oath that 1. he was a homicidal sociopath, 2. she was terrified of him, 3. he has attempted to kill people who wronged him in the past and 4. he told her he was going to kill his coworkers in the lab. She also took out a restraining order against him several weeks ago. So, unless his doctor is a liar with an axe to grind, he probably did send the anthrax....since he had access to it and wanted credit for developing the antidote. And how much money did they give HER to swear under oath to that? I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm just saying, something seems off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axxman Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,292 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2008 Yeah...something always seems off because we allow conspiracy theory nutjobs to discolor everything. This guy sent anthrax to people in the mail. He was a murderer. He saved the taxpayers alot of money by taking care of it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathqueen Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/16/1975 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Did you just call me a nutjob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2008 His psychiatrist has sworn under oath that 1. he was a homicidal sociopath, 2. she was terrified of him, 3. he has attempted to kill people who wronged him in the past and 4. he told her he was going to kill his coworkers in the lab. She also took out a restraining order against him several weeks ago. So, unless his doctor is a liar with an axe to grind, he probably did send the anthrax....since he had access to it and wanted credit for developing the antidote. And how much money did they give HER to swear under oath to that? I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm just saying, something seems off. Well, I don't think the feds paid her to testify. You have to remember that NOTHING can stay secret in the government. But there is something that bothers me about this whole thing. He was either developing or had already developed the antidote to anthrax poisoning. Allegedly, he and a couple of other government scientists were applying for a patent and stood to make a lot of money from it. BUT....(and I'll use my own company as an example) any technology developed in company labs, while you're an employee, belongs to the company. Is it not the same with the government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathqueen Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/16/1975 Share Posted August 8, 2008 You have to remember that NOTHING can stay secret in the government. EXACTLY! If they've had this info and evidence on him for SEVEN years, why come out now? If they can't keep a secret, this should have spilled out years ago, not weeks. This comes out after he commits suicide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted August 8, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.09 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2008 You have to remember that NOTHING can stay secret in the government. EXACTLY! If they've had this info and evidence on him for SEVEN years, why come out now? If they can't keep a secret, this should have spilled out years ago, not weeks. This comes out after he commits suicide? Yep; I agree. There's something missing in this picture....and I'm sure we will find out what it is in the coming months. From what I understand, Ivens was helping with the investigation for years. Then, about 18 months ago, investigator's suspicions starting turning towards him. Apparently he suffered some type of meltdown and was removed from his job last month. I believe the guy did the crime but I don't believe that the facts, as put out so far, add up to a conclusion that he was the sole perpetrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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