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Hi SisterActs2, Yes, so true. I never really appreciated `Titus` till I looked into doing this study and researching more. I have learnt heaps as I`ve gone along. I so appreciate you, mabel and a few others doing the journey together. It has made me realise how God has unfolded His revelation of His Son to us, and through people in their everyday lives. If we can`t see God at work there, where can we. Marilyn.

Yes, a similar situation to that which we see of Paul and Timothy. And how wonderful that Paul said to Titus "Let no one despise you.". Sometimes older Christians may be tempted to look down on younger ones who show signs of becoming very good leaders and teachers and overlook them. There is no doubt that Paul had a wonderful understanding on how to direct people to serve the Lord rightly.

I love my sisters in the Lord. God bless you both.

Hi Mabel Yes, Paul was "discipling" Timothy; helping him to grow into a man of God, as God would have required him to go on and fight the good fight after Paul had gone. He recognised that Timothy was someone he could trust with Godly wisdom; that Timothy would be a man God would use for great things - planting and leading churches with true doctrine, so invested his knowledge and wisdom into him. I agree - they did have a very close bond. How wonderful, as well, that way back when David and Jonathan were together they had such a wonderful friendship. Jonathan helped David to flee because he could see that his father had an irrational hatred and jealousy toward David. The Bible doesn't tell us what happened to a lot of people because some of it was written while they were still alive - but there are documents that were written that do record what happened to a lot of people. I think you are right about understanding straight away when the Lord convicts us that we get a check in our spirit - because we walk closely with Him and hear his admonishment to us, and apply that conviction in order to avoid going down the wrong path. We listen to the Spirit of God when He speaks to us and don't allow the brain to rationalise things away like the world does. You are right. Marilyn, what do you think sis?

hello Marilyn By jingo yeah that’s it exactly and not only that but men have run with this and use it to marginalise women both in the west and most especially in the east. (different religion but simialar outcome) This brings me to women in the church I am really confused are they supposed to be bishops etc? is it scriptural? Or has women’s rights gotten skew wif. and why are women lumped together with gay folk? Well I do know that sodomy is not scriptural in regards to the church/body of Christ (and this troubles me greatly and puts me off church as the leading voice these days as it has lost its way.) along with the new age stuff that is mixed in amongst it Ah yeah give them an inch ....size matters lol

Hi mabel, Now I remember you saying you had difficulty with Paul. I think these scriptures in 1 Timothy 2, have caused the trouble. `...Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.` (1 Tim. 2: 11 & 12) On the face of that it looks horrendous. Paul looks like a real put down of woman. However.....if we look a bit closer at the real meaning of the Greek words we get a totally different picture. Silence - from Gk. words, `hesuchia, hesuchios, & hesuchazo,` with the meanings of refraining from meddlesomeness or speech, keeping one`s seat, quietness. Usurp authority - Gk. word ` authenteo,` to dominate, usurp authority over. So we can see that there were woman who were meddlesome and trying to dominate others. Thus Paul addresses that wrong behaviour. Our English words in translation do not give that meaning and thus has been used for men to dominate woman, (lol). Ridiculous. If we look at other things Paul says we see that he does not put down woman but sees them as equal to the men. `...you all can prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged.` (1 Cor. 14: 31) `Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing in grace to the Lord.` (Col. 3: 16) Marilyn.

Hi SisterActs2, Yes I so love the picture of Paul mentoring Timothy as a son. It would have been so special for both of them. And it seems to me that this aspect of being a mature believer can get lost in all the `meetings` of man`s religious organisations. I realised many years ago that with my limited strength, then `Where was I going to spend it?` I was busy with the music group and ladies group, but eventually I laid that all aside and have been so blessed to mentor some ladies, one on one, and see them do the same. I know people can do that as well as going to a meeting, but I had to choose. Marilyn. Just noticed you posted before me. That was very good sharing with mabel. I so love that we can talk here about God`s word and not have nay sayers.

So in a sense then Paul was passing the battan onto Timothy which btw what ever did happen to Timothy? Paul and Timothy remind me a little of David and Johnathan and that close bond. Timothy must have been very advanced in his spirtiaul landscape then for Paul to instruct him in this way. Then as now folk like to mix stuff up having a good conscience means I think, having a relationship with the Lord an immediancy of, " gee this is wrong.". And rationalisation isn’t allowed to grow tap roots=clarity and certainty

Hi Marilyn How wonderful for Paul to have had someone like Timothy on board! What a support he proved to be. No wonder Paul calls him "my true son in the faith". The advice Paul gave Timothy as a young man would have been wonderful, as a father lovingly instructs his son in wisdom.