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Daniel 7:11 describes the fate of the end times Roman Empire, the EU. The beast-king, as dictator of the EU, will be cast into the lake of fire. ------------------------------ In Revelation 17:10-11, the beast is referred to as a king, i.e. the beast-king. The eighth king, having ruled as one of the 7 previous kings. little horn - emerges as leader over a pact of ten EU leaders. King 7 of Revelation 17:10. then becomes the prince who shall come following Gog/Magog then is anointed the King of Israel, thought to be messiah by the Jews, becoming the Antichrist. then commits the transgression of desolation act, ending his time as the King of Israel, and being the Antichrist role. then after the revealed man of sin is assassinated and brought back to life, the ten EU leaders (Revelation 17:17) hand the EU over to him to be dictator of the EU = the beast-king, King 8 of Revelation 17:11. ---------------------------------------------- Easy to keep straight. The person as... little horn - 7th Julio-Claudian bloodline king of the Roman Empire then as... Antichrist - King of Israel, thought to be messiah by the Jews, for a while, around 3 years. then as... beast-king - 8th Julio-Claudian bloodline king of the Roman Empire

If there is no temple, the daily sacrifice of the two lambs will not be taking place. The Jews in Israel are wanting to rebuild their temple. In Judaism, there is the belief that the messiah will build the next temple. The little horn of Daniel 8, following Gog/Magog as the prince who shall come, will be perceived to be the messiah (becoming the Antichrist) and will partake in building the next temple.

No, you are wrong. And those verses are not saying that another temple will not be built. The daily sacrifice of the two lambs can only be done when a temple is standing. The little horn person will stop the daily sacrifice and then commits the transgression of desolation - the act of sitting in the temple, claiming to have achieved God-hood, i.e. magnifying himself. Daniel 8:11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

Jesus's return in Ezekiel 39:21-29. Then the thousand years, during which Satan will be in the prison of the bottomless pit. Then release at the end of the thousand years for his final deceiving of the nations, including the Gog/Magog nations, to make an assault on the camp of the saints.

It is not Jerusalem that is made desolate, but the temple. Desolate from worship and praise of the One True God.

Daniel 8:13 says "transgression of desolation", not abomination of desolation. The difference is ..... The 2Thessalonians2:4 act of going into the temple, sitting, claiming to have achieved God-hood - "the transgression of desolation" The person killed for the act, and brought back to life to become the beast-king. The making of the statue image of the beast king in Revelation 13 and it being placed on the temple mount - "the abomination of desolation" --------------------------------------------------- The 2300 days span from when the daily sacrifices begin again - and ends when Jesus returns to remove those things which will have made the temple desolate. The things to be removed from the temple mount at Jesus's return are the beast-king, the false prophet, the statue image, and Satan.

I suggest you pay better attention to what you read and make at list of events in chronological order. The vision regarding the little horn, the daily sacrifice, the transgression desolation, events are 2300 days in length. Daniel 8: 13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

The beast in Revelation 13 which will rule the world for 42 months is the mortally wounded but healed head. That does not take place until the middle part of the seven years. What I suggest you do is to make a list of events in chronological order.

He will have a host of followers to carry out his orders. Daniel 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

The little horn is a person, not a country.

No, Russia is what is north of Israel. Europe is north-west of Israel. The little horn person in Daniel 8:9 comes into the middle east and Israel - with a strong army from the north and west. He will head south east. Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

Italy is west of Israel.

50 years ago, I spent 2 1/2 years in Germany, Zirndorf, in an artillery unit.

I tend to agree.

I tend to agree.

The United States is not north of Israel.

The person in Daniel 11:36 is the Antichrist after he has become the beast-king. Near the end of the 7 years, he will be attacked by the South, then the North seeing what is happening attacks him, then the East joins in. The beast-king will be the King of West, dictator of the EU. All of the armies of the world from the four directions of the compass will be drawn into the battles.

I am asking you how Netanyahu fits into the Daniel 11:40-44 verses. Which king will he be for those battles ?

I assume you mean Russia. If so, I agree. So how is your Antichrist candidate Netanhayu fitting into these series of attacks ?

There is the news from the east and north that will trouble him, verse 44. Do you notice that the West is never mentioned in the verses? So who is the "him"? That's the big question. The him is the king in verse 36 who claims to be God. The beast-king of Revelation 13. The person who becomes the Antichrist and then later the beast-king has to be a Jew... and his religion initially Judaism.

No gentile Global government. And it certainly would not be Islam. The EU will be the dominant global power. The EU with allies of the US and Canada likely - will be the West. The beast in Daniel 11:40-44 will be the king of the West. He will be attacked from the South, then North, then the kings of the East. -------------------------------------------- He will be killed for his act of claiming to have achieved God-hood, sitting in the seat of God in the temple. 2Thessalonian2:4, Ezekiel 28:1-10. 1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: 3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee: 4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: 5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches: 6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; 7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness. 8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas. 9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee. 10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

the Antichrist (King of Israel, thought-to be messiah) first half of the 7 years. confirms the Mt Sinai covenant speech to begin the 7 years. A short-lived false messianic age will begin, peace and safety. will be killed when he claims to have achieved God hood, and brought back to life to become... the beast king (dictator of the EU) of Revelation 13 second half of the 7 years (42 months). statue image made of him, placed on the temple mount - the abomination of desolation. The great tribulation begins.

Shilohsfoal, the person will be the Antichrist (King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah) first half of the 7 years. confirms the Mt Sinai covenant speech to begin the 7 years. A short-lived false messianic age will begin. will be killed when he claims to have achieved God hood, and brought back to life to become... the beast king (dictator of the EU) second half of the 7 years (42 months). statue image made of him, placed on the temple mount - the abomination of desolation. The great tribulation begins.

Are you referring to Zechariah 14 or Revelation 11:2 ? Revelation 11:2 is just past the half way point in the 7 years. The beast-king (no longer will the person be the Antichrist, King of Israel, at that time) will begin ruling for 42 months and Jerusalem will be under occupation and subjugation, by the king of the west, the beast-king dictator of the EU. -------------------------------------------- In Zechariah 14, it will all the nations of the world unified under the leadership of the beast-king for a brief period of 45 days, to assemble their armies to make war on Jesus. The person who becomes the Antichrist, King of Israel, thought-to-be messiah by the Jews coming in his own name - takes place AFTER the Gog/Magogg event. He becomes the Antichrist after Gog/Magog. Ezekiel 38-39 is God's defense of Israel, not specifically the Israeli government. The Antichrist person, when he is revealed as the man of sin, and not the messiah after all as the Jews will be thinking at the time, God will have strangers come against him and kill him for his audacious act of sitting in the temple claiming to have achieved God-hood, Ezkeiel 28:1-10. It ends the person's time as the Antichrist, King of Israel. When the person comes back to life, he becomes the beast-king, dictator of the EU, Roman Empire of the end times. So stop referring to the person as the Antichrist for the second half of the seven years, but as the beast-king. No, Jesus will not be handed over anything. He is Lord over everything and doesn't need hand outs. Jesus returns to rescue the Jews held hostages by the armies in Zechariah 14, and to end the great tribulation, and cast the beast-king and false-prophet into the lake of fire, and destroy those armies gathered to make war on him, and Satan bound in chains and cast into the bottomless pit for a thousand years You did not represent what I believe and don't believe. I have said nothing about a "antichrist Israeli government". That is your commentary.

Stop saying what I believe or don't believe. And stop trying to put words into my mouth. Zechariah 14 will happen when the kings of the earth take half of Jerusalem as hostages in hopes of preventing Jesus from executing judgment on them.