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There is no Millennial Kingdom on this earth found in scripture as you claim Jesus returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving the heavens and earth by fire (The End)

You can't remove "If" The act of Egypt not going to Jerusalem hasn't taken place, there isnt any nation to claim as a heathen "It's purely a warning and nothing more" "If" you don't go up to Jerusalem, you will be declared a "Heathen" Simple, clear, and easy to understand Zechariah 14:18-19KJV 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Yes the figures you mention are in the realm of earth and it's time Yes Revelation 13 A future human man (The Beast) that will be given 42 literal months on this earth Yes Revelation 9:4-6 literal Humans on this earth being tormented for 5 literal months Yes Revelation 11 Prophets returned to this earth, with literal bodies that die and lay in a literal street in Jerusalem for 3.5 literal days

I have explained my position "several times" your questions are now redundant

There are many references in the bible to the Lords eternal, Revelation 20:1-6 is just one mention

Smiles, the truth of scripture has been shown to you, and you are silent regarding response Yes the saints being overcome in Daniel and Revelation are all the same (Two Witnesses)

Daniel's (Little Horn) This "Future" figure will be present on earth to see the (Second Coming) of Jesus Christ and final judgement, as this figure will be slain by Jesus Christ and cast into the lake of fire (Future) unfulfilled "Future" (Second Coming, Final Judgement) Below Daniel 7:8-11KJV 8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. 9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. 11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. This "Future" figure will be present on earth making (Abomination & Desolation) to the (Consummation) or (The Ultimate End) "Future" Event(s) Unfulfilled Merriam-Webster Definition of consummation 1: the act of consummating the consummation of a contract by mutual signature specifically : the consummating of a marriage 2: the ultimate end Daniel 9:27KJV 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Is all you have done is a word search and tried to bring association As stated Jeremiah 15/43 have absolutely no relationship to Revelation 13:10, "None" Jeremiah 15 is speaking about Israel and captivity, while 43 is speaking about Nebuchadnezzar Revelation 13:10 is speaking about divine protection of the Church during the future tribulation, your claims are apples and oranges Gods divine protection of the Church below, if a person moves to jail or kill the believer, they in return will be jailed or killed, it's that simple Revelation 13:9-10KJV 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Is God sitting and looking at a time clock on his throne in heaven "No" there is no literal earthly time in the Lords spiritual, he is the Alpha/Omega he sees the beginning and the end, he is outside of earthly time, "Eternal" That seen in Revelation 20:1-6 is in the Lords "Eternal" spiritual realm and not on this earth 1,000 years is a day, and a day is a 1,000 years to the Lord, he is "Eternal" and outside of time They could have written a billion or trillion years, its not literal, a figure of speech written to convey Gods eternal to the human mind, and 1,000 was a big number when the Revelation was written nearly 2,000 years ago I have been very slow in my explanation, and it's simple and very easy to understand

There is no parallel teaching between Revelation 13:10 and Jeremiah 15/43 as you claim Jeremiah surrounds Israel going into captivity by the sword, while Revelation 13:10 is showing Gods divine protection of the Church during the future tribulation that you believe took place in the 1st century Your claim is apple's and oranges, no connection whatsoever Gods divine protection of the Church below, if a person moves to jail or kill the believer, they in return will be jailed or killed, it's that simple Revelation 13:9-10KJV 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

I'm claiming Revelation 20:1-6 dosent represent a Millennial Kingdom on this earth for 1,000 years at the return of Jesus Christ, its very simple and easy to understand The 1,000 years is taking place in the Lords spiritual realm, 1,000 isnt literal but is an expression of a long period of time

Do you believe the Angels, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The souls, the Dead, God, and Christ are representative of a literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many claim?

Zechariah 14:16, Who Will Be Left Of The Nations? You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning) Zechariah 14:12KJV 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living) Zechariah 14:16KJV 16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. Isaiah 4:3-4KJV 3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem: 4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning. Revelation 21:24-27KJV 24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. 26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. 27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Please give an explanation to your wow? Posting scripture dosent explain your intent, neither does the expression wow?

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below? 1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom? 2.) Physical Earthly Throne? 3.) Physical Mortal Humans? The Above Claims (Don't Exist) Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ 100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time On This Earth 2 Peter 3:8KJV 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Revelation 20:1-6KJV 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Im fully aware of your position, and your rediscovery for the English word "Hell" The translation was well within the capabilities of the 60 christian scholars on the KJV committee, I think your teaching takes a back seat at this point We Disagree In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

The rich man died and was in "Hell", as death and "Hell" will be cast into the lake of fire the second death at the final judgement Your thought wants to put the rich man in torment after the last day resurrection and final judgement, I disagree

Many claim Zechariah 14 is a Millennial Kingdom on this earth, and they use "Heathens" as a disclaimer that this represents the Eternal Kingdom The scripture clearly states "If" the family of Egypt go not up, they will be declared "Heathen" No place does it state heathens are present as many claim, it's stating a condition "If" it were to happen Look at that big word "If" it cancels any argument of heathens being present, it hasn't happened as many claim Zechariah 14:18-19KJV 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Thanks for the response, Interesting, your belief is specific to 7th day Adventist and "Soul Sleep" Of course I disagree, as I believe torment begins for the wicked immediately upon death in "Hell" as seen in the rich man and Lazarus Im full aware of your belief, no need for a lengthy debate, we disagree Jesus Is The Lord

You will closely note, Zechariah 14:16 & Isaiah 4:3-4 are "Parallel" readings of the same event, as Isaiah gives a clear account of those who are left, those who are found in the book of life, the final judgement has passed, eternity has begun "After" The Day Of The Lord You will closely note in Isaiah 4:4 below, Jerusalem will be purged by the spirit of (Judgement) & (Burning) Zechariah 14:12KJV 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. Only The Righteous Are Left, The Book Of Life "Was" Opened (Every One That Is Written Among The Living) Zechariah 14:16KJV 16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. Isaiah 4:3-4KJV 3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem: 4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning. Revelation 21:24-27KJV 24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. 26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. 27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only? "Deceive The Nations" To Battle The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World? Satan Is Presently Bound From (One Specific Purpose) As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently. Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle Revelation 20:1-9KJV 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. (Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event (Revelation) 16:12-17KJV 12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. 16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

We strongly disagree As shown Revelation 20:1-6 is seen 100% in the Lords spiritual, Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ There is no Kingdom on earth, with mortal humans present, it's a fabricated fairy tale of man As you have been shown Jesus Christ will return in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End) No need In beating a dead horse, I have clearly shown you my observation of scripture, we strongly disagree

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only? "Deceive The Nations" To Battle The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World? Satan Is Presently Bound From (One Specific Purpose) As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently. Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle Revelation 20:1-9KJV 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. (Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event (Revelation) 16:12-17KJV 12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. 16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

No the day of the lord isnt a thousand years long as you claim, it's as a thief, short and quick, next!

The scripture clearly states "If" the family of Egypt go not up, they will be declared "Heathen" No place does it state heathens are present as you claim, it's stating a condition "If" it were to happen Look at that big word "If" it cancels your argument of heathens being present, it hasn't happened as you claim Zechariah 14:18-19KJV 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.