Chris.

A demon wont tell you the truth. If you do it under the power of the name of Jesus, the demon has no choice but to tell you the truth.... You tell it that you are a Christian and Jesus is your Lord and demand he answer as at the white throne judgement and it dare not lie.. Edited to add...... but your whole life will change for it will put yourself on the front lines of a spiritual war that one needs to be spiritually prepared to fight........ never ever throw the name of Christ around without cause. Lol I was joking I didn't think anyone would take me seriously about attempting conversing with ghosts. The other thing is presuming a ghost does exist should we assume a ghost is evil or a demon because we don't understand it? It could be nice and harmless unlike demons like Casper the friendly ghost. I don't know if you meant that question to me or just everyone, but if you read my posts I have already said that I didn't know what those things were... My Bible tells me not to associate with the dead, I would assume that it's possible or it would not have told me not to. Since it tells me that I should avoid idols and not eat things that I know have been sacrificed to them because they are demons, I would assume that it would tell me if ghosts were demons also..... but who knows? The witch of Endor talked to Samuel. Some say that was a demon, but the Bible says, "Samuel said" so I can only take it that it really was Samuel... Personally I decided a long time ago at Tinker Air Force base that I didn't want anything whatsoever to do with those things no matter what they were... I still don't understand why they were there. And since I am now retired I'd have to really work at it to care. it's a good thing to not think too much about. God warns us to not seek to be involved with things like that.

This is about 3 things ego, pride and God with regard to valuing others opinions. Ego or self says "its all about me and my experiences". Pride says I am important and I am right and know better than you! God says You owe me one, you were bought at a price, be humble and not too proud or self centred as all you did was accept a free gift I gave you and your no better than anyone else I created and love too.

A demon wont tell you the truth. If you do it under the power of the name of Jesus, the demon has no choice but to tell you the truth.... You tell it that you are a Christian and Jesus is your Lord and demand he answer as at the white throne judgement and it dare not lie.. Edited to add...... but your whole life will change for it will put yourself on the front lines of a spiritual war that one needs to be spiritually prepared to fight........ never ever throw the name of Christ around without cause. Lol I was joking I didn't think anyone would take me seriously about attempting conversing with ghosts. The other thing is presuming a ghost does exist should we assume a ghost is evil or a demon because we don't understand it? It could be nice and harmless unlike demons like Casper the friendly ghost.

This might sound simplistic but if it exists ask it.

There is no "fixation" on gays. That is always a device people who either overtly, or covertly support homosexuality, or just are not comfortable calling it what it is use to justify not speaking out about the problem. If your church does not also point out the dangers of the abuse of alcohol, smoking, and the dubious lifestyle that bars and nightclubs bring, you need to find a different church. And if you think that television, fast food and buying things are sins, you need to gain more understanding, because none of those things are sins unless they are carried to extremes that most people do not carry them to. When discussing a specific sin, using a line of relativism compared to another sin does not work. One sin is not relative to another. Earlier you used the sin of gluttony which cannot be compared to homosexuality or other sexual sins because you are not involving another party in your sin as you are in any sexual sin. So the two are not relative, even if one could use relativism. Homosexuality is the only sin I know of that God actually states that after a certain point, He simply stops convicting it's practitioners of it's sinfulness and completely gives them over to their sin. That is pretty harsh for a sin that you claim should be viewed as being on the same level as gluttony. Here is your post number #25: This is another device that people who support homosexuality often use to eliminate any condemnation of that particular sin. That Sodom & Gomorrah were not destroyed because of homosexuality and/or other gross sexual sins. The problem is, Jude tells us directly that they were: Jude 1:6-8 6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. 8 In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings. And when it comes to the passage you use in Ezekiel, it helps to use more than one verse as a proof text: Ezekiel 16:46-50 46 Your older sister was Samaria, who lived to the north of you with her daughters; and your younger sister, who lived to the south of you with her daughters, was Sodom. 47 You not only walked in their ways and copied their detestable practices, but in all your ways you soon became more depraved than they. 48 As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done. 49 " 'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen. Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed because of sexual immorality, primarily, but their sins were many. Verse 49 says that they did not help the poor and needy but it does not say that that is what they were destroyed for. Verse 50 says they were destroyed for the "detestable" things they did. The word abomination is used in the KJV, and abomination almost always refers to either sexual sin, idol worship, or both. Prominent and society-accepted homosexuality is always a sign of a society in steep and accelerated moral decline and it is almost always a sign of a society/government/entity that is close to collapse. So to downplay it's contribution to our society's decay, either intentionally or unintentionally is to both ignore, and to fail to understand the fundamental problem. It's ok brother I think its great that is your opinion and its ok to think that way. I hope the lord shows us his way as we try to work stuff out best we can.

Many i mention this to dont like this but.. it seems to me The gay thing is a cop out. its wrong but its not the thing doing all the damage and while everyones focused on it they have an excuse to forget what is doing it. Most people are not gay so are not guilty of that sin and would never be, but so many are guilty of all the others that are tearing our society apart and it gets ignored. I dont understand this fixation on gays while Greed is rampant and television teaches our kids to lie and tempts them into atheism pornography and idolatry as well as Anti Christian thinking. Why isn't there action on about that stuff instead of such a fixation on gays (2-4% of the population apparently doing everything and causing everything)? Why doesn't my church and forums protest Alcohol, smoking, nightclubs, consumerism,TV, fast food chains, advertising companies, media lies and excess because thats why our kids stopped wanting to go to church and dont want to. Society is not disintegrating because of gays its because we are ignoring what is the problem.

Amen~! Rejoicing While Their Neighbors Starve There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men. Proverbs 30:14 Amen~! Rejoicing While Their Neighbors Starve There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men. Proverbs 30:14 That verse seems not to say this is the sin of your sister sodom- They were gay! It seems more weighted towards an attitude of greed as well. I couldn't find any reference in the surrounding verses in ezekiel to sex sin which is strange considering what we all think first about sodom and Gomorrah. Ezekiel says they did detestable things ( but no mention of what they were) but mentioned greed and inhospitality as the most notable. <- Western nations.

God hates homosexuality and calls it an abomination. Homosexuality is becoming a real problem today in our country, more so than every before. Homosexuals need to be delivered from that disgusting and perverse lifestyle. They should NOT be allowed to be married. I agree gays need delivery taking the above verse I posted into consideration do you think gluttons need delivery too?

Problem is sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of gluttony and Lack of to the poor and needy. Ezekiel 16:49 49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. Everyone thinks it was homosexuality alone but that is a myth. I don't think god is fond of gluttony much either from that verse.

Personally at an observation the demise of our western countries goes like this, 95% of problems *Marraige breakdowns *. Rejection of core moral founding christian values in favour of secular atheism. * Excess, greed, idolatary, gluttony, wastefulness. 5% of problem Homosexuality I'm probably wrong but it seems that way

What is the difference between church doctrine and Jesus's basic foundational teachings? God bless, GE To kids that are brought up in churches with laws like no dancing because it promotes promiscuity is a good example. Because they are taught it they might think it is a biblical truth or commandment when it is in fact a denominational difference .

actually I have a Zimbabwe trillion dollar bill I bought off eBay I have been tempted to put in the offering to give the church stewards a grin.

I do know God doesn't have a cell phone to call you with so there is a chance the voice you hear or that conscience leading is God talking to you. Often God is the one telling you to do the thing you may be reluctant at first to do that you know is the right thing to do. Guess who says sleep in everyday, eat too much food, watch TV or play on the computer as much as you want and /or be lazy (because its what you want to hear)! Guess who says go be a missionary, or admit to a wrongdoing to someone to put it right, or get up and work or volunteer at a charity for me.

Maybe English began the process if becoming Gods language around about the same time Jesus of Middle Eastern descent began to be depicted as a pale man with long hair.

~ lol, You Only Need One Wife To Take Care Of That Little Problem It takes care if that problem but introduces another one of much more talking and complaining. Could you imagine all the girls getting on all the time?

Funny you should mention this about visiting angels. There have been just a handful of times I have met a complete stranger and got a feeling of like butterflies in the stomach and a really pleasant feeling about them and it made me wonder if it was one.

Maybe men in Old Testament havin multiple wives had problems with memory?

This probably is one time in the Old testament where I thought Maybe It was better to do it because they were sacrificing their children and teaching other nations to do it including the Jews. Maybe it was a greater act of love to stop children being born into that situation where they are child sacrifices. God does what he does I guess and they were very lawless and brutal times unlike now where we are supposed to be civilised and attempting to follow jesus teachings.

Ouch! Lamenting a lack of genocide and the slaughter of innocent men women and children for their race?

Tell the Palestinians to stop killing people then. I just read this which paints a less than peaceful picture of invading zionists. I read some other sites to see if there is any truth in it before posting a link and it paints Israel as much less than a victim. http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

The thing is life is far more precious than dirt. Jesus died to save unbelievers not dirt. Only keeping people alive gives an opportunity to hear salvation. It's madness constantly killing over land instead if living in peace.

I am pretty sure if someone did to my country what Israel did with Palestine and is still doing I would be complaint too. Since I can remember as a kid 80's there has been conflict and death constantly over that piece of real estate. Why don't they just get on peacefully like Jesus suggested? Then again not many of them really tried to listen to him anyway when he was alive!

In the navy.. Soon as I thought of gay and navy together that came to mind.

In a time of high unemployment that gave somebody something to do.

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