Riverwalker

Yes Lord Jesus come, and wash the stain of this from your sheep! Thank you again for posting, it is a blessing!

Thank you for the information Matthew 8: 16 When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick, 17 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying: “He Himself took our infirmities And bore our sicknesses.” And surely He does today. But does he heal everyone all the time? I experienced "word of faith" movement when I was first saved, where I was taught that if you were poor it was your lack of faith, if you were sick it was your lack of faith, whatever they said God would do for you, if it wasn't done....it was because of your lack of faith. I found the lack of compassion and even low grade condemnation of people who suffered to be against what I was learning about God. So I am a little uneasy on the subject.

This needs to be heard. Thank You So many people have replaced solid boundaries with movable barriers, that can be adjusted when they become Inconvenient Out Morals, Our rules, were written in stone, literally on the heights of Mount Sinai. We cannot change them, or adjust them to fit our desires.

And they are all literal truths. God did not ever use one, in which he was not trying to impart a literal spiritual truth by using figurative language

Pure religion is defined as Helping Widows and children (James 4:1)

If it is expressing a complex Spiritual truth. I am the Good Shepherd.....a figurative allusion to the actual role of Jesus. Expressing the literal truth of His role in a way that we can understand

And so are the words of a man whose gift of wisdom did not save him from his own foolishness. There is much to learn there But I do not worship Solomon I said i bowed to the wisdom God gave him

If you saw the title of the post you would know that I reject the notion that something can not be both literal and figurative. Because there are n0 natural references for Spiritual truths, so figurative language is used, to best define the literal spiritual truth The things of God are not defined or contained in the words or mere men.

Okay, you may not know it but you are kind of making my point when I said that figurative language is used to promote a complex Spiritual Literal Truth And there is no more spiritually complex book than revelation What they were is what John Saw and Related, Seven Golden Lampstands. What they represent is explained...by our Lord, literally Revelation 1: 20 The mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: The seven stars are the [m]angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands which you saw are the seven churches.

Thank you for the Exposition It made me question something. Specifically if the Apostles were filled with the Holy Spirit when Jesus sent them out the first time. I had always assumed that they had, but when I went back and read it just now I saw I had been under a misapprehension Matthew 10:10 Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness. He gave them the Authority over demons and disease, they had not yet received the Holy Spirit And then reinforced that which should have been OBVIOUS to me, that He had them wait in the upper room for the Holy Spirit So thank you for the correction Blessings

This knucklehead bows to the wisdom of Sol0mon gifted from God

What defines foolish and legitimate disputes is the willingness of each to hear....if not heed what the other says

The most well known usage of this type of figurative language to express a literal truth are Jesus' Parables. Was there a good Samaritan, who knows but the complex spiritual truth that Jesus fought to put over to the Jews, is that it is not how you were born that gives you value, but rather what you do. and that is not a truth we can pass off by being figurative

Non sequitor Use of language like that is optional. I do not believe God using figurative language to express a complex truth falls into that genre

This brings up a very interesting point Salvation is possible, it is available to all, He will save anyone who asks Healing is possible, but does God always heal? Miraculous Healings are possible and they are part of the Spiritual Gifts 1 Cor 12:8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by [f]the same Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. BUT, I do believe Isaiah is talking about our spiritual Salvation Isaiah 53: 3 He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. 4 Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we [esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted. 5 But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes[m] we are healed.

Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless. ummmm

Figurative language on a literal spiritual truth. and you lost me when you went off book

under what authority do you make that claim?

In that there is wisdom. I will think on it

I Believe God and His Word (Which John Calls Jesus) is the only way There is no private interpretations, there are not many paths, there is one, and it is Jesus. which is WHY we must take the bible literally without any of our own flavoring John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Do all of us have a full revelation and understanding of God..no. But if we are all follow the one true path, we should not conflict

What I meant that being without access to the Word is hardly applicable today

James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

As to Jeremiah. my conclusion, thought I cannot be dogmatic seems to be reasonable in comparison with other scripture. And it is in the support of other scripture that should be the only purpose of going there. Not reading the scripture to confirm or notions, but conforming our notions to scripture In the same tack on Creation I used to see room for the gap between the world existing and creation (Between Verse 1 and 2 of Genesis 1) until I read Mark 10 Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’ When Jesus said that Adam and Eve were in the beginning of creation with God, I had to put aside that notion. Once can speculate as to what beginning means, but it is just speculation. I must take God at His word

But what about those who toss aside the onion when they no longer like the smell

While that is hardly applicable for today, in the past, God himself revealed Himself to those who did not have the bible. Romans 1: 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and [g]Godhead, so that they are without excuse, And then he gave us the bible