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First fruits in and of themselves are not bound for immortality. My two cents. I read somewhere there will be a bit longer liffespan, ie. 150 years (don't have that verse handy). Rev. 20:4 speaks to the saint's destiny alone.

I get the feeling you are not interested in other viewpoints. So I will write this mainly for myself. Much of what you speak of still remains a mystery to us. We have not been informed yet what it means, ie. the resurrection of the saints and the dead during Jacob's 7 years of trouble. We have Rev. 20:4, for example, which speaks of the saint's souls resurrecting. There is no mention of a physical resurrection in this particular verse. Rev. 20:4 "Then I saw thrones, and the people sitting on them had been given the authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony about Jesus and for proclaiming the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his statue, nor accepted his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They all came to life again, and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years. I'll go with that verse myself in order to more fully appreciate the change that has occurred in our future since Christ resurrected and his holy spirit came to be within us that are saved by grace. Your next big mystery should be, what exactly is a soul's resurrection about? But, if you keep insisting this verse should not be read at face value, then, ok, keep resurrecting old testament versions of the dead resurrecting physically. Because of course, nothing has changed since then. Oh wait, Jesus came and died for our sins and that might have changed how things get done now. But you say, the dead saints rose from their graves the day he died. Yes, but what about after the holy spirit came, many days after Jesus's 'death'? No dead were actually raised after that by God. Or didn't you notice? Something had changed in both the physical and the spiritual and we are just now sorting all that out in places like here and other on-line communities, as God begins to unveil his plan to us to help us with our eventual goal of entering New Jersualem, by his side (Rev. 21) in 1,000 years. But first, we have to learn to co-operate if we are to get anywhere. But then we would have to admit we don't know, about this particular topic, at all. Never an easy thing to do. To not know.

When we evolve in the ways of Jesus and begin to embrace a way of life he taught us to follow, surrendering to his appearrance (as he appears in God's throne room, where he resides on God's right hand side, ie. as a being of pure energy or light which is sin free) won't be un-natural, it will feel like one more 'crown' we have received and can begin to feel comfortable around. God's appearrance is more of a lesson, as Moses can speak too. Moses walked away from that type of experience (ie. on Mt. Sinai... which still has the evidence of God's actual appearance there*, as it top half is still to this day darken in its appearrance, like scarred by light) changed in his appearance. He wore a veil to cover the light seeping out of his face. *pic below of Mt. Sinai. The shadow at its top is not a shadow at all. It is darkened ground.

I've posted the UN information prior. Brief recount here: Vision About Beast Out of the Sea I had a vision from the Lord some years ago about the Beast out of the Sea. I was shown a great beast rising from the sea and heard the name "Roosevelt" from the lord. I recognized the scene as "D" day in normandy. So I did my research, as the lord was instructing me and there it was. Roosevelt dies from a head wound, a stroke, and in his stead, the UN rises in Oct. 1945...Rev. 13:3 "One of the heads of the beast appeared to be mortally wounded. But the mortal wound was healed, and the whole world marveled and followed the beast." You see, behind the scenes Roosevelt was being influenced by three unclean spirits that had the appearance of frogs. Rev. 16:14 "These are demonic spirits that perform signs and go out to all the kings of the earth, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God, the Almighty.". What else does the bible state about this Beast? Rev. 13:4 "They worshiped the dragon who had given authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can wage war against it?”". Yes, who has ever gone against the power of the United Nations? No one. And now we know, from thousands of hours of research done by the followers of God on-line that the New World Order and the UN are one and the same, or close enough. Does it fit the time-line of Daniels 70 weeks/years? Yes, it does. Since I witnessed first hand the rising of the Saint's souls oct. 31st, 2015 (another very long story for another time), I had a head start on figuring out the time line of Jacob's 7 years of trouble. The Saint's rise at 3 1/2 years or 1270 days after the son of perdition brings an abomination into the USA that desolates the spirit of the Nation (ie. gay marriage is such a nation wide abomination), which was announced May 9th, 2012. You add 1270 days to that date and yes, you get Oct. 31st. 2015. Then you see the date that the UN formed was oct. 24th, 1945 and add 70 years to that day and you get an Oct. 2015 date that is 7 days shy of Oct. 31st. I prayed and the lord said "Add 7 days for that is how long it took me to form the earth" to that day and yes, again you get Oct. 31st, 2015 as the day the saint's souls resurrect. Summary It works because first I witnessed it, second I confirmed it with the son of perdition time frame info (the lord revealed this data to me as well) and the third confirmation is Roosevelt and the UN information. I don't need to imagine anything.

Separating Believers from Non Believers The separating of the wheat from the tares references the first judgement by Jesus of earth's inhabitants. There are two levels of judgement. Those that are apostate and those that are lukewarm. Perhaps others see this differently. I got my information from insights etc. Revelations states it slightly differently by referencing the judgement of the wicked (those that the demons like locusts torture for five months) and also mentions judging the 7 churches (Rev. 2 and 3) with only one church, the Church of Philadelphia being saved. I don't see a separation of judgement between the apostate/pagans/heathens/non believers and the lukewarm christians listed in Revelations. Timing by going by the trumpets is hard to do. I instead begin with the Daniel's 70 weeks/70 years (knowing the start date helps for this one, ie. Date the UN formed.. hint) which gets us to the right month/year (I discovered in my own work) or better yet, knowing the date of the nation's desolation by an abomination brought by the son of perdition (which is May 9th, 2012 when Obama announced gay marriage gives you that date...a revelation the Lord revealed to me) gets you to the exact day of the saint's souls resurrection (3 1/2 years past obama's announcement date or 1260 years, but that is not entirely correct. The lord gave me an insight to use the Jewish calendar here which gives you 1270 days for Oct. 31st, 2015). So to answer your question as to when judgement for the apostate or lukewarm takes place, it actually isn't listed in Revelations. We have to assume it is all happening concurrently, during Jacob's 7 years of tribulation, if we are just using the Bible as our only source of information because it is a mystery that God must reveal. That means it is unknown as in hidden from our view. Now that I have stated all that, lets take a look at what we can date from the trumpets. 5Th Trumpet Rev. 9:1-3 "Then the fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from heaven to earth, and it was given the key to the pit of the Abyss. The star opened the pit of the Abyss, and smoke rose out of it like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened by the smoke from the pit. And out of the smoke, locusts descended on the earth, and they were given power like that of the scorpions of the earth." I mentioned the demons like locusts already above. That event comes prior to the saint's souls resurrecting in Rev. 20:4. So that means 2014-2015 time frame (based on that date I gave above, ie. Oct. 31st. 2015 for their souls resurrecting here on earth) for these demons to have appeared here on earth (for 5 months) and tortured the wicked (which means witches). But you can not witness them, the demons, as they are unclean spirits and thus went unnoticed by the masses when they arrived. I just happened to catch it because the Lord pointed it out clearly to me at the time, though it took years for me to fully comprehend what was occurring. Next: 6th Trumpet The bible gives us the right wording for the judgement of the church of Philadelphia (I see this as the USA which was founded in that same exact city) here with the final 6th trumpet : "And the number of mounted troops was two hundred million; I heard their number." Rev. 9:16). You probably missed that number because it did not make any sense but that is due to lack of information from the Church. You have to do some digging to understand that number, ie. 200 million souls. Ex:. The Caucasian population of the USA in 2013 was 245 million per wikipedia minus 44 million of them children under the age of 14 which equals, yup 200 million. mmmm My hypothesis is that there was a foot soldier from God for every soul judged. Those that were apostate were judged. I have already posted several times this was a soul judgement and not a physical judgement as Rev. 20:4 reveals in its wording about the saint's souls being resurrected (only). So another mystery there as well.

We lucked out (not true for many others in our area though so thanks for your prayers for everyone here) and this morning we were finally able to get on the before disabled PG&E power company website and found our area was not being turned off. Our weather had improved as well. It was a frightening experience as once again my elderly relatives were not up to the task of prepping and it fell on me, mostly. I became very nerve wrecked so I prayed to Jesus to calm my nerves and he did. Thank you Jesus. We all are in various levels of being disabled so any change in circumstances is hard for them to adjust too. I had already prepped for my needs but not for theirs so this evening I called a friend for help and next time I will have what they need as well ready too. Thanks for the many prayers, it helped. I felt a ground swell of support emotionally from everyone through this trying time.

I especially appreciate your prayers today and for the next few days as PG&E cuts our power here in central coast, ca. I depend on medical devices that require electricity. Have looked for other options but they are scare so add me to your prayers that the power gets turned right back on soon (they plan to turn it off tonight where I live). Many are in a similar straits.

No. Non ionizing radiation or 5G goes thru glass easily. It is wood it has an issue with penetrating that is why the towers are next to the houses. We really don't know anything about this tech. You can research it but they did not release enough data about it for me to be able to talk about it concisely. Big mystery. You can EMF proof a house with special EMF proof paint and window screens to a certain extent. Seen it done in several videos. They either paint inside or outside. a website www.lessemf.com sells some of these materials.

To get an idea what this represents, you need all three relevant verses about: Rev. 12:14-16 "But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle to fly from the presence of the serpent to her place in the wilderness, where she was nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. Then from the mouth of the serpent spewed water like a river to overtake the woman and sweep her away in the torrent. But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth to swallow up the river that had poured from the dragon’s mouth.". First, I am an expert on this particular topic and have already covered it in depth. It is a mystery. I did not know if you knew that. I prayed about it and did some figuring and from personal experiences figured it out. Here is the summation. Translation of the three verses in modern terms "The actual human woman who is Jesus's bride, who is also a witness, lives on earth, but is hidden from satan's minions by God. She has been sent to earth to be a bridge for mankind to God's lessons to us so we may evolve during Jesus's thousand year reign. But, she is affected by the God level frequencies sent by the demon Beasts of Revelations, number 2 Beast to be specific. Nazi's using time travel technologies and alien exotic tech. went back to the past around 1900 and change our timeline, something God revealed to me in visions some time ago (the holy spirit tells me now this is true). So now they, the elites or globalists or NWO types, are 50 years ahead in their smart technologies (which is often reported in alien research sites on-line as being true, that they are ahead in their tech. by 50 years). In order to bring about mankind's enslavement, Tesla was sent by satan, in vision form (note: he received all his tech. plans via visions), plans to create the 5G world wide network of God level frequencies. All his technologies were oriented to creating the 5G technologies (you can research all his discoveries and see they are about wireless transmission of energy related frequencies). These frequencies allow the unclean spirits that appear as frogs, what we call grey aliens, to exist in our enviroment. 5G also can be used to harm people physically as well. But mainly, 5G opens portals into the dimension where they live and using the exotic tech built by the Nazi's (who never actually went away but were moved to the USA post WW2), these aliens can now harvest human (children's) souls en mass. Confused yet? Yup. Oh well. And oh yeah, plenty of intel on our treaties with them if you care to look (ie. start with Laura Eisenhower intel on). This woman of Rev. 12 is sensitive to these same frequencies, what we call EMF sensitivity now, and must resort to grounding herself to the earth, in order to escape harm. It is called grounding tech. and can be bought on-line (I use them even now). The dragon, or satan, thought he could destroy her and her children, ie. the Church of Philadelphia (ie. I have already discussed at length that is the USA which was founded in that city), but God sent Trump (who is mentioned in the bible as the last Trump) and his MI team, ie. the eagle, to change these frequencies to less harmful ones (which he did this past summer...something reported in decodes of his and Q's posts)". .

Daniel 7 is very much in line with Revelations. Reading the entire chapter puts this particular verse, verse 12 that you quoted, into perspective. First, I did not see anywhere the mention of them being 'kings'. They are beasts. The first Beast in Revelation is sent out to the Kings (people who run the Nation states) at the beginning of Daniel's 70 weeks (the holy spirit tells me this is true). That is around 1944, ie. "D" day at Normandy for that beginning date for Daniels 70 years (something the Lord revealed to me a while ago). The second Beast has two horns, mentioned in Revelations, horns standing for religions, in this case the Lord revealed to me the two religions that serve this particular Beast are Buddhism and Zen. Thirdly, we know there are at least three Beasts because they are mentioned here in Revelations 16:13 "And I saw three unclean spirits that looked like frogs coming out of the mouths of the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet.". Lastly, from Revelations 12, we see that after the dragon fails to get the woman of Rev. 12, he then goes after her children. We are not told for how long. The Beasts are his representives on earth and it is them that he sends after her children as mentioned here in Rev. 12:17 "And the dragon was enraged at the woman, and went to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And the dragon stood on the shore of the sea.".

He has a human appearrance, with a caveat. He is very tall and much larger that we suspect. And of course, He has no human flesh (big difference there in appearance I suspect). He is also an energic being as Moses discovered. Full of light might be a way to 'see' him.

People have been celebrating the birth of their children since day one. It really is not a bible related topic.

Update - several, 9/2019 I did not get back to anyone about this matter until now because it resolved itself with this local pastor, who teaches my many friends, quit and moved back home to Arizona suddenly in mid 2018 (so our prayers were heeded). The search then became one for a new pastor and one was chosen first of this year. That one too had many issues and now the congregation has voted him out. Well, mmmm. He actually followed a teaching that he failed to disclose. I knew he was a bother from day one (an insight from the Lord I had). Anyway, once everyone understood he was teaching a non biblical teaching, they voted him out today. I feel the Church age has ended as it has become apostate. Smaller group settings work best for teaching the Lord's way. That way, we can invest our energies into learning his way rather than following mans.

I posted this a while ago and it is still true. I had an insight from the Lord the other day that October 31st is Jesus actual birth day. Interesting as that is the day the satanists have been trying to ruin for eons. Now know why. They like to turn everything upside down. Now have a day to celebrate (also the day the Saint's souls resurrected as have posted about before, though not recently).

Update 9-29-19: It turned out the new stove just had a stronger signal but is 2.4 gHz which means I am finally getting some sleep and don't have to leave. Thank God! Praise be! Your prayers mattered. It took several days for me to figure out that I still can't return to my old room because even though the smart mers were just taken off, the actual 5G cell tower up the street is coming thru the windows too strongly for me to get use too. But I still can sleep in the living room. We do have to begin to pray these types of issues get resolved by the FCC. Cell towers should not be next to people's homes, ever. So I am mainly just napping and then getting right back up. Will takes weeks etc. to finally get 8 hrs of real sleep as I get use to the increase in new non-inonizing radiation frequencies. But I am not in my car and am grateful to God.