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Well, it bears saying that the Pauline letters to the churches were written to those churches. They were not written for us. When God sent his only son to die to take on the sins of the whole world that whomever, whosoever believes in Jesus will not perish of their sins but will be saved from them, how would it set that God would decree that blessed amazing good news isn't worthy of being spread to the world of sinners by women?

Column: PROOF that liberal protesters are paid Fox News Insider Craigslist Ad: Get Paid $15 an Hour to Protest at a Trump Rally Even Snopes attempted to run this down and their conclusion was "unproven". Because the ad's were taken down. I followed one link and the ad had expired.

Apparently? What evidence do you have of that apparent fact today? When there are so many women preachers in the world. What scripture of God's command, not a pastoral letter written by Paul to his churches, is there that says that? Please post. Thank you.

What an insult to this community. You decided to make your own example of that which you criticized (Seeing as a group of adventurous people wisely decided to air their grievances with biblical and church authority for all the unsaved world to see and criticise with the hashtag ) Now all the unsaved world can see and criticize ....this example of thingschristiansshowas what they think of one another. Very sad. Prayerfully a mod will close this.

I copied this from a Bible site because the KJV is not copyright protected but is a public domain. You know how Paul's letter in one case about wives is being used often enough to have it appear as if God told Paul to tell the world women are not to preach? Remember the scripture where Paul said we are all one in Christ? He said that more than once. Try this letter to the Romans. About preaching. Note the bold underlined part?There's no male exclusive gender identity in his remarks there. Romans 10 (KJV) 10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:) 7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world. 19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you. 20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me. 21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain

Beautiful! John 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Do not hold on to me, because I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" 20:18 Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, "I have seen the Lord"; and she told them that he had said these things to her. "It is ironic with the low status of women in that day that Jesus chose to appear to Mary and the other women, and that "the first Christian preachers of the Resurrection were not men, but women!" (The Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels, 883). Jesus did not first appear to the "vicar" of the church, Peter, or even to the beloved disciple. He appeared to Mary and the women who followed him and served him. Mary saw him first, and she received the central tenet of the Christian faith: "He is risen!" She was the first to proclaim the good news, or gospel, of the resurrection. Jesus could have just as easily appeared to Peter and the beloved disciple, or to the disciples cowered behind locked doors. That he appeared to Mary first can only mean that this was by divine appointment and was a deliberate act on his part. Women as well as men were credible witnesses to the gospel and were commissioned to preach it to all with whom they came into contact. And the women were faithful in proclaiming the Gospel, even to the disciples." Apostle to the Apostles: The Women Disciples of Jesus Shawna R. B. Atteberry The Greek Words Used to Describe Preaching Prepared by Bob Young Page may be copied and used for teaching purposes with appropriate credit noted INTRODUCTION 1. For preachers to fulfill their calling and please God, they must understand the New Testament teaching about the life and work of preachers of the gospel; they must incorporate this teaching into their ministries. 2. The New Testament is the primary source from which one can learn what the preacher should do. 3. It is possible for a preacher to please himself and others while at the same displeasing God (Prov. 16:25; 2 Tim. 4:1-5). 4. It is essential that preachers approach this study with humility and a sincere willingness to learn. I. A PROCESS FOR ACCURATELY UNDERSTANDING THE BIBLE A. One must know the meaning of the words used in the Bible. B. One must know how the words fit together to form sentences (syntax). C. One must understand the immediate context of which the sentence is a part (paragraph, chapter, book). D. One must understand the remote context--what the Bible says elsewhere on the same and related subjects. E. One must understand the general message of the Bible. II. GUIDELINES FOR UNDERSTANDING A BIBLICAL TEXT A. Who is speaking, and to whom is the word being spoken? B. What situations in the context affect the meaning of the words? C. Should the language be understood literally or figuratively? D. Partial truth can lead one to false conclusions. A correct understanding comes only when one takes into account all of the verses which deal with the theme. Is the understanding of this text consistent with other texts related to the theme? E. The more difficult Biblical texts should be understand in a way that harmonizes and agrees with less difficult Biblical passages. F. Bible study should be done with an open mind, not influenced by the opinions or ideas already held. III. THE IMPORTANCE OF AN INTENSIVE, ACCURATE WORD STUDY FOR UNDERSTANDING A BIBLE SUBJECT A. The words--not merely the thoughts of the Bible--are inspired (1 Cor. 2:13; 2 Pet.1:20-21). B. There are many synonyms in the NT. (1) The Holy Spirit guided the process in each case. (2) It is imperative, therefore, that we give careful attention to them. IV. A STUDY OF THE GREEK WORDS TRANSLATED BY THE ENGLISH WORD "PREACH" A. Some of the more significant Greek words to be included in this study are kerusso, euaggelizo, prokerusso, diaggeillo, laleo, kataggello, dialeggomai, and proeuaggelizomai B. The purpose of this study is to identify some of the words used in the New Testament in connection with the task of preaching--the task of making known to others the message and faith of Jesus Christ. _________________ I. Kerusso A. Translations of this word 1. "Proclaim"-- Lk. 12:3; Rev. 5;2 2. "Publish"-- Mk. 1:45; 5:20, etc. 3. "Preach"-- Matt. 3:1; 4:17; Acts 8:5; Acts 9:20 (Proclaimed- ASV) B. Basic Meaning 1. ... "to be a herald; to officiate as a herald; to proclaim after the manner of a herald; always with the suggestion of formality, gravity, and an authority which must be listened to and obeyed..."(Thayer) 2. This word itself says nothing about the message to be proclaimed. C. Conclusion: The preacher is to publicly proclaim the message to Christ with gravity and authority (Titus 2:15). The preacher must understand that he is a herald, proclaiming the message which originates with another. II. Euaggelizo A. In the KJV, this word is translated by quite a few different expressions which actually differ very little. The following is not a complete list, but gives a general idea of how the word is used. 1. "Declared"-- Rev. 10:7 2. "Preach"-- Rev. 14:6 3. "Bring good tidings"-- Lk. 2:10; 1 Thess. 3:6; "Declare glad tidings"-- Acts 13:32; ASV "good" 4. "Preach the gospel"-- Lk. 4:18; 9:6; Rom. 1:15; 15:20; 1 Cor. 1:17; Gal. 1:8; 4:13 B. Basic meaning: to make known the good message. Whereas kerusso said nothing about the message, this word says something about the content of the message. There is but one good message as far as Christianity is concerned--the gospel of Christ. C. Conclusion: the gospel preacher makes known an important message (that of salvation through Christ). It is the only good news message relative to salvation from sin (Gal. 1:6-9). III. Kataggello A. In the KJV, this word is translated as follows. 1. "Declare"--Acts 17;23 (set forth, ASV), 1 Cor. 2:1 (proclaim, ASV) 2. "Show"-- Acts 16:17; 26:23; I Cor. 11:26 (proclaim - ASV) 3. "Speak "--Romans 1:8 (proclaimed -- ASV) 4. "Preach"--Acts 4:2; 13:5; 15:36; I Cor. 9:14 (proclaim -- ASV); Phil. 1:16; (set for the defense) ASV; Col. 1:28 5. "Teach"--Acts 16:21 B. Basic meaning: this word refers to the delivery of the message--to announce or declare, to make proclamation with authority (Moulton & Milligan). C. Conclusion: this word is similar to kerusso, but lacks some of the formality of an official declaration made by a herald. IV. Dialegomai A. This word is translated several ways. 1. "Preach"--(Acts 20:7) (discoursed--ASV) 2. "Reason with"--(Acts 17:2; 18:19)] 3. "Dispute"--Mk. 9:34; Acts 17:17; 19:8-9; 24:12; Jude 9; (ASV--reasoned, Acts 17:17; 19:8-9) 4. "Speak"-- (Heb. 12.5) B. Basic meaning: while the basic meaning is to argue, discourse, debate, discuss, contend, as noted above, it can also mean "preach." C. Conclusion: the preacher of the gospel is to contend for the faith in discourse and discussion, in defense and debate. V. Laleo A. This word is translated as follows: 1. "Speak"--(I Cor. 14:3,4,5 and many others.) 2. "Talk"--(Acts: 26:31) and a number of others. (Spoke--ASV) 3. "Preach"--(Mark 2:2; Acts 8:25; 11:19; 13:42; 14:25; 16:6) (ASV uses speak) B. Basic meaning: this word is used when the emphasis is on the fact of utterance. C. Conclusion: the preacher speaks in specific words which in combination provide a message. The emphasis in the use of this word is on the act or process of speaking. VI. Didasko A. In KJV, this word is translated only by "teach" (Mt. 28:20) B. Basic Meaning: This is a broad term used of teaching generally. C. Conclusion: The preacher is to be a teacher. VII. Diaggello (see also apaggello, paragello, et.al.) A. In KJV, this word is translated: 1. "Preach" (LK 9:60), (ASV--published abroad) 2. "Declare" (Rom. 9:17), (ASV--published abroad) B. Basic meaning: to announce through, to declare fully, to publish abroad. C. Conclusion: The preacher is to fully declare the gospel (cf. Acts 20:27), in every place (Mk. 16:15) VIII. Apologeomai (cf. also apologia) A. In KJV, this word is translated: 1. "Answer for myself" (Acts 25:8; 26:1-2), (ASV -- "said in his defense," "to make defense") 2. "Excuse one's self" (2 Cor. 12:19), (ASV - Excusing ourselves), "Excuse" (Rom. 2:15) 3. "Make defense" (Acts 19:33) B. Basic Meaning: to answer by making a defense against a charge. (Compare with apologia below) C. Conclusion: A preacher must be prepared to defend his position if the occasion warrants it. IX. Suzeteo (suzetesis) A. This word is translated: 1. "Question with" (Mk. 8:11; 9:14) 2. "Dispute" (Acts 6:9; 9:29) 3. "Reason together" (Mk. 12: 28) (ASV--questioning) B. Basic Meaning: to discuss, dispute, question, debate. C. Conclusion: At times preachers must question, reason together, discuss and debate about the gospel. X. Strateo (cf. strateia) A. in KJV, this word is translated: 1. "Go to warfare (I Cor. 9:7) 2. "War" (2 Cor. 10:3; I Tim. 1:18; 2 Tim. 2:3-4; Jas. 4:1; I Pet. 2:11) B. Basic Meaning: to make war (from stratos, an encamped army), to make a military expedition. C. Conclusion: It is an obligation of Christians (including preachers) to engage in warfare against the adversaries of the Lord. XI. Parresiazomai (cf. parresia) A. In KJV, this word is translated: 1. "Speak boldly" (Acts 14:3; 18:26; 19:8; Eph. 6: 20) 2. "Preach boldly" (Acts 9:27) B. Basic meaning: to use boldness in preaching or speaking; to speak boldly, plainly, freely, and confidently. C. Conclusion: it is right for preachers to preach boldly, plainly and confidently in making known the gospel. XII. Epagonizebthai A. This word appears only once in the Greek N.T., in Jude 3 where it is translated "earnestly contend for." B. Basic Meaning: To contend strenuously in defense of. C. Conclusion: Christians (including preachers) have an obligation to earnestly contend for the faith. XIII. Elegko (cf. elegkos) (reproof, 2 Tim. 3:16; evidence, Heb. 11:1) A. This word is translated: 1. "Convince: (Jn. 8:46; ! Cor. 14:24; Titus 1:9; James 2:9) 2. "Convict" (Jn. 8:9) 3. "Tell one's fault" (Mt. 18:15) 4. "Reprove" (LK. 3:19; Jn. 3:20; 16:8; Eph. 5:11, 13; 2 Tim. 4:2) 5. "Rebuke" (I Tim. 5:20; Titus 1:13; 2:15; Heb. 12:5; Rev, 3:19) B. Basic meaning: by conviction to bring to light, to expose, and refute teachers or false doctrine; to rebuke severely, to chide, admonish, to call to account and show one his fault. C. Conclusion: Preachers have an obligation to expose and refute false teachers and to call sinners to account. XIV. Parakaleo A. This word is translated in several ways including "called for," "entreat," "beseech," "desire," and "exhort." B. Basic meaning: literally, to call along side, as an advocate or representative. This basic idea is reflected in Jesus' reference to the Holy Spirit in John as "comforter." C. Conclusion: There is a place for pleading and exhorting with compassion in the preaching of the gospel. XV. Matheteo A. This word is translated: 1. "Be a disciple" (Mt. 27:57) 2. "Teach" (Mt. 28:19; Acts 14:21), (ASV--make disciples) 3. "Instruct" (Mt. 13:52), (ASV--been made a disciple) B. Basic meaning: to follow one as a disciple; to make or cause one to be a disciple; by implication; to teach, instruct. C. Conclusion: The preacher (as well as others) has the obligation to instruct as many as possible with a view to leading them to become disciples. CONCLUSION God's plan is for preachers to faithfully and fully preach the word (Acts 20:20; 2 Tim. 4:1-2). We have multiplied examples of this in the word studies above and in biblical examples (especially see Acts 20:18-21, 24-27). http://www.bobyoungresources.com/bible/grkprch.htm Last updated October 26, 2012

A family's son being murdered is nothing to laugh about regardless of sources that are provided here. You don't like those sources, don't respect them, that's fine. But a LMAO emote is insensitive. WATCH: Detective Discusses Mystery Surrounding Murdered DNC Staffer on ‘Hannity’ posted by Hannity.com Staff - 3 hours ago

No, not even going to get into it. When Fred Phelps was dug up and brought into this thread the debate side that did that lost. Believe what you want. Claim what you wish of God and his calling people to his service. God knows. That there are women the world over delivering the truth of Christ and have been since Jesus time speaks for itself. And that's the beautiful thing , the beautiful difference, between God and man.

Now is when the book of Job's trials becomes relevant . The Devil operates in this world because God permits it so. It is all part of God's plan. Go with God being his holy spirit is inside you. God always has the advantage . You're his child.

I never said that.

Fred Phelps is dead and has zero to do with this topic. Just because people want to take scripture out of context to support the contention that God exercises gender bias doesn't make it true. Just because people want to corrupt Paul's letters to his churches and disregard his statement concerning oneness and that there is no gender difference between men and women when we are all one in Christ, and that necessarily means we are one when God calls us to his service, doesn't mean the bias is true. Doesn't mean God agrees women can't be preachers. Doesn't mean that women preachers that are in the world are, as some hope to communicate to the world, all condemned and not in actual service under God's anointing. No. All it means for the effort people make to speak for God and against women preachers is those peoples argument can't be sustained by Jesus Christ himself. It can only be sustained by reworking the letters of Paul to say what they need them to say. And in the process make Paul look like he double talked himself. Which of course he did not do. This is the blessing of discernment among the saints . God is bigger than the human ego that intones bigotry as of God. No. That is a sin Jesus came to eradicate. By example. Because in that culture of the time a man with women in his company among his apostles would not have been tolerated. Discrimination against women was huge then. Jesus exampled the opposite of that divisiveness by having women with him in his travels. Jesus and God made it so that a woman would discover he had arisen from the tomb. A woman delivered that good news to the disciples in the upper room. And called them to come see for themselves. Men obeying a woman beckoning them to obey and they did. That wasn't done in the culture then either. But it was done and it did occur among the followers of Christ. Because he taught them that they were all one in his love. Those who think that stops at preaching are not aware. There's no talking that into anything different. Not when the Bible and a God bigger than the false god that is bigotry know the truth. And the world full of women pastors, some who have given their lives to stand for the word, are proof God knows what he's doing. While man opines to the contrary.God see's that too.

Unless you want to feel worse I'd suggest not looking toward Job. He lost it all because God made a bet with the Devil. I don't think a message forum is going to be able to reach you as personally as someone you actually know and trust can. Do you have a pastor ? Or a spiritual adviser you trust?

What is totally, is the pride and arrogance that makes the absolute statement to refute what was said about God calling people to his service. Speaking in absolutes as to what God totally won't do is blasphemy. And far worse that would get me banned if I dared speak truth.

People hold to their position in the faith of righteousness, or right-ness with God's will and plan. No faulting that. If women were not called to serve the Father and deliver his Son's testament to the world there wouldn't be a single woman pastor serving God anywhere on his created earth. But there are. And that then is the final evidence that sustains the scriptures, delivers the words of Christ to those who seek hungrily for salvation , and operate in service to their calling. All else is opinion to the contrary. God's purpose is greater always in all ways. Cheers,

The deeper tragedy here is the family of this poor young man. No closure in as much as knowing why. Why their beloved son was taken from them. If this was a robbery the robber shooting this young man in the back multiple times gained nothing for that evil act of murder. Nothing was stolen. Which makes it look more like a hit than a robbery. And the family is left to grieve always wondering who. Why. And where the killer of their son is and will they ever be brought to justice. More questions being the Wikileaks source is now out in the open. And that gives this more motive to be a hit due to his betrayal of the DNC and HRC than anything else. And Mr.Rich isn't the only person who died when in some way related to the DNC and/or Hillary Clinton. A UN official John Ashe died day before set to testify as top official against DNC and HRC June 2016. Victor Thorn, author of expose' books on HRC, found dead of a gunshot wound on top of a mountain near his home August 2016 . Mr. Thorn had told friends if he's ever found dead of a supposed suicide don't believe it. Investigate it. Shawn Lucas, lead attorney DNC fraud case and a Bernie Sanders supporter found dead at home August 2016. My heart goes out to all the families of these men. Please God, let those responsible be held accountable in this life as publicly as their victims were taken from it.

Yay! And thank you. I shall.

How old would she be in 2020?

Murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich was the “DNC emails” Wikileaker: Confirmed New electronic evidence confirms Seth Rich had contact with Wikileaks before his death BY SHEPARD AMBELLAS - 05.16.2017 WASHINGTON (INTELLIHUB) — It’s really no secret why Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich was murdered almost a year ago, nor has it been, considering how Hillary Clinton’s Fmr. campaign adviser John Podesta, along with his fellow campaign manager Robbie Mook, and a gentleman by the name of Joel Benson were found to have plotted to ‘make an example’ of the “suspected leaker” for interacting with Wikileaks, the organization that ultimately released the damning “DNC emails” which cost Rich his life last June. It’s also apparent that law enforcement investigators were told to stand down and to portray Rich’s murder as a botched robbery and it’s apparent that the cover-up orders came from above. Read more @ Intelihub How can police call this a robbery? When nothing was taken from the body of the young man that was shot in the back?

I'd think the two should be indistinguishable when we're to live like Christ.

But it does appeal to a certain demographic that would likely cross over to his music in return for his support of the never-Trump crowd.

Believe it, I know long day. Phew. Thank God it is almost over and we can both relax. I don't think we'll agree on this issue so I'm going to let it drop. I respect anyone's right to believe God doesn't call women to deliver the good news of his son to the world. I happen to disagree. When we are all one in Christ there's no addendum that makes exception to the "all". Blessings. Have a peaceful evening.

Hiya Golden, Do you have scriptures to support those? "attendance, tithing, hemline attention, easy-listening music, passivity, and denial; volunteerism, dressing up on Sundays, and superiority"

What Are the Epistles? The New Testament Epistles Are Letters to the Early Churches and Believers 1 Timothy (Pastoral Epistle) - The book of 1 Timothy describes Christ-centered living in the Christian church, both for leaders and members. 2 Timothy (Pastoral Epistle) - Written by Paul just before his death, 2 Timothy is a moving letter, teaching us how we can be confident even during hardship.

You seem to be saying yes in matters concerning women pastors. Or is it just a selective article in scripture that you're adamant about? Even going so far as to imply people aren't really in Christ when they disagree with your perspective on the issue. While ignoring what has been said about Paul's letter to the church in Corinth. That that edict was for the church in Corinth and does not apply today. Namely because, as should be obvious, Paul said of the faithful in Christ that there is no male or female. Which would revoke the gender roles being argued in this thread today as it did when Paul first gave the word of the Lord to the readers. And that would mean that God calls whom he will in service to him. Ignoring those scriptures in favor of one that was exclusive to a church in Corinth , as the Timothy Epistles were, isn't actually validating the truth. It's obscuring the facts in favor of a certain prejudice against women.