notsolostsoul

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  1. No I don't believe them. I do not denounce their Christianity. I am not authorized to say where they stand in Christ. I will correct them by use of scripture to point out where Jesus would not act as so. (See Scriptures Attached) I will not pat them on their back but try and bring Jesus'teachings and example to show where they may be mistaken. Not everything calls for Armored Guards to force teachings. We do need to be prepared to fight the adversary, but not slay who God may see as Christians in the fight. In the following Scripture Jesus showed them the error in what they believed was holding someone accountable and how he deals with all. John 8New King James Version (NKJV) 8 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 Now earlya]" in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people came to Him; and He sat down and taught them.3 Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst, 4 they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?” 6 This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear.f]" 7 So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” 8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?” 11 She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go sin no more.” 12 Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.” Jesus Defends His Self-Witness 13 The Pharisees therefore said to Him, “You bear witness of Yourself; Your witness is not true.” 14 Jesus answered and said to them, “Even if I bear witness of Myself, My witness is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going; but you do not know where I come from and where I am going. 15 You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one. 16 And yet if I do judge, My judgment is true; for I am not alone, but I am with the Father who sent Me. 17 It is also written in your law that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am One who bears witness of Myself, and the Father who sent Me bears witness of Me.” 19 Then they said to Him, “Where is Your Father?” Jesus answered, “You know neither Me nor My Father. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also. Now you can find Scripture to try and refute Jesus but that would be weird. My opinion.
  2. Some go as far to call others straight out non-believers, false prophets and try and judge them to hell. They feel because someone doesn't see truth in the way of their own view, that they are right and are authorizes to call others out. I was told I could not be a vessel. I didn't know God or Jesus gave any man in this time the power to direct who They (God and Jesus) choose to use. Remember he favors the meek, and frowns at self righteousness. He warns against practicing only written law and not practicing What is of The Spirit. By doing such the individual opens himself up to being a wolf. Even though in their eyes they believe they are doing their duty. The way you do your duty shows your character at heart. There is nothing wrong with bringing the truth to someone, but the way you go about it speaks on your heart. Not using YOU as you personally, more of you meaning (Mankind). Ex. There is a Parent, who is verbally abusive to their child and uses what he believes to be good morals to teach right and wrong. The parent may believe they are doing what's right because they are keeping the child in line with what is right and just. Not knowing what they are actually doing is instilling fear and anger into the child and this can lead to the child to doing worse in their future. So the parent isn't intentionally teaching bad morals, but the route he took to deliver the truth of living right, ends up having negative results. He used true morals but in the wrong way and ended up working against the very thing he and God do not approve of. Wolves use the true words, but it leads to bad fruit. When we say do not judge, or look at the speck in your own eye. It's to prevent fellow Christians from falling into working opposite of God, and it's done in a manner not to deter (cause anger, fear, conflict...etc) people away but to bring them the Word and let The Holy Spirit guide the individual to being more like Jesus. Now I do agree with, not creating spoiled children of Christ. Thinking they can do no wrong because they are loved. Nowhere does he teach that. Still the method we use to teach, to bring or to correct should be with gentleness. We are not authorized to kick out members in Christ. Only God can do that. We can say "Wait bother look you are mistaken, the teaching is as so. We should not be like "You don't like this, be gone devil worshipper, non believer, false prophet, not a child of God." Or "Since you don't follow my truth, you're wrong" "So God hates you"
  3. To me it's like Faith and Works. With True Faith the works follow. With True Spirit, written word has value. No matter the exact written word the Relationship with Jesus is what makes ALL matter.
  4. Thank you for correcting, I would have been wrecking my brain. Lol!
  5. Thank you, I never knew what Ronan Lordship was but I'll research more into it. Thanks again.
  6. See I don't like using labels of Born again Christian or Saved. Not saying I don't understand why they are used. It's just that it seems with the labeling people lose the fact that there are responsibilities that come along with it. Even the way people say I am a Christian. If being Christian, Born Again or Saved were that easy, why would Jesus leave such detail to how we should be in order to be his followers? Faith is not the believing alone. It's the believing in him so that we put in all that is required of us to be as he directs. The works come as a result of having the faith in him. Hope I explained that correctly for it to be understood.
  7. Yes we should have compassion and worry for all souls. Even those against us. I think what your saying is they believe that because they show that they are Christian in their thought of being a Christian yet live as they please not directed by The Word nor Christ they are not a Christian. Now see the problem with arguing with a person in such a mind frame and stating they are not save or not a Christian can have the exact opposite effect as you want. This person is in conflict with her relationship with Christ. We should all be able to relate. Some call it being a babe in Christ. Now the relationship is there because Jesus calls upon them. Yet she like many practicing Christians may not have learned the lessons to bring them to the level of Christianity you may have. That doesn't make her any less of a Christian she is just developing. This is were we must be careful, use discernment in how we approach them because we can end up pushing them further away, AS WELL AS OURSELVES. We have to be patient because no one wants to hear "You're going to hell" (using for emphasize, not saying this is how you do). Just like when speaking to a child we give them rules we want them to follow but sometimes that just pushes them to do it more. In this case it does get real personal and depends on the individual. Definitely pray on it and ask for the right way to approach and handle but DO NOT JUDGE. Answering to post, not trying to pry nor dismiss. You didn't ask for how to handle. You were asking if it were okay to question that someone's faith. No.
  8. You can tell from Scriptures and The Spirit if someone is not doing as God or Christ would want them to do. So you can recognize they claim it but not live it. We have directions for this too. Matthew 10: 11-15 nkjv 11 Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 12 As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13 If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgement than for that city! We can substitute home for the person/individual. You come as a Christian, greet as a Christian, if they recieve, believe and want to achieve as a Christian you stay and guide to Christ. If not remove yourself and the negative from you. Leaving it to God. You decide if it's peaceful and profitable for you in God, but God will do the Judging in the end. You have every right to fellowship and try as a Christian, but we are directed to leave when we need to and leave the rest to God.
  9. Oh, I'm in stitches. 😂😂😂
  10. I don't know these guys and I rather stick with what Jesus directs to me and in me. No disrespect to anyone's beliefs.
  11. You have explained exactly what I was saying. I believe their is a difference between judging and discernment. Judging is for God. Ex. For all the people who lost their families(husbands) who were kill by King David they might have labeled him a murder or sinner. Yet God did not judge (hold him accountable) on that. However God did judge him on the murder he set up on the behalf of his lust. And still yet God place him at his right hand. Only God can do these things, judge these things. Discernment is for us to use to determine if what others do and what we do is right with what God has directed/instructed. I used Matthew 7 1-5 to point out, same as Paul and Peter. If we are not perfect we should not judge someone else's imperfection. We may think we have a position but who says that position we appointed ourselves is the correct position. Only Jesus was perfect here on earth. In John 8: 7 So when they continued asking Him, he raised Himself up and said to them "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first." The context of when this was said explains it. None of us are in power or authority to judge another. No matter how saved we believe we are. Now I would never suggest that anyone not help anyone else out. Like you said bring them to truth, but be mindful, use discernment in how you do so. As Paul stated. The Holy Spirit will direct you in your footsteps, just make sure it is The Holy Spirit and not what YOU (any of us) believe is of The Spirit or The Law. There is a big difference.
  12. Matthew 7: 1-2 nkjv Judge not, that you be not judged.2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. James 4: 12 nkjv There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. Who are you to judge another? We are not authorized to judge Yes James 2: 14 nkjv What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works. James 1: 22 nkjv Be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. You should question. We are taught discernment and we are given scripture to test individuals and spirits to ensure they are not false prophets. Matthew 7:15-17 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. Test them. The Holy Spirit, with discernment and Scripture will expose them. However also use discernment towards yourself to ensure you do not commit sin by trying to point out another's sin. Matthew 7: 3-5 nkjv And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, Let me remove the speck from your eye, and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother. Once again we are not authorize to judge another and should be mindful of our own words and behaviors when addressing or dealing with one another.
  13. Proverbs 14:31 He who oppresses the poor taunts his Maker, But he who is gracious to the needy honors Him. If you believe this person is poor in health. Discernment please.
  14. I don't believe he makes us sin. We have feel will and our human nature makes us sin. However I now can see (from the replies in this post) that he does allow bad things to happen in accordance with his Ultimate Plan. So yes he knows David as he knew Job and Adam and Eve. Just as he knows the Devil but through their flaws and sins we were created. Through their experiences, mistakes and downfalls we have Scripture and The Gifts from Jesus'sacrifice. It is all part of his plan. We are still accountable for our sins because he teaches us better. With David he didn't punish him for the killings he committed as a warrior for God. He punished him for the sin committed against God's Word. Murder for lust. David's selfish reasoning. Thank you guys. Even clearer than before.