OldCoot

It is quite simple. The OP said that Yeshua didn't claim to be God. In the scripture reference I posted, the scribes and pharisees who were face to face with Yeshua sure thought that is what He was claiming. So, that was my point, when there is any doubt about what Yeshua is claiming, the scribes and pharisees came to our rescue and confirmed what Yeshua was claiming. Yet, almost 2000 years later, some who have never met Yeshua face to face and heard Him speak at the Temple seem to think that He wasn't claiming to be God. The eye witnesses sure thought so.

Whenever there is any possibility of not understanding something, the scribes and pharisees always came to our rescue in scripture..... John 10:31-33 (NKJV) Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” 33 The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

My mom finally got a chance to go to Israel a couple of years ago. I so want to go and visit also. While there, she sent a pic of her with a couple of IDF soldiers. Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem!

Full speed ahead girl! Reviving this from the dead to provide some info others may find useful. I am also a Viet Era Vet (Army) with a permanent disability Army retirement. Fortunately, it has not been a major issue. At least once I dropped the Army and the VA game and got a couple of surgeries done by private health care that reduced the problems. It is indeed a sad testament that the government has no problem throwing folks away after they have used them up. But even then, with the Obummercare fiasco, getting private health care combined with insurance to deal with any problems is likely to be a tough sell. But for those that can scratch together some bucks, there are private facilities that are cash only for services and provide the same level, or better, of care as any other facility but at a substantially reduced rate. The Surgery Center of Oklahoma City is one such place. They even have their pricing for procedures online. Quite a few procedures that, in total, are less than most folk's deductible on regular health insurance. They gave the pricing on 13 different knee related surgeries. Most just a few thousand bucks. Even a total knee replacement was less than $16K. Try that with a local hospital! Cliff https://surgerycenterok.com