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As an Australian living Downunder I am not aware of any "camps" for covid infected or the unvaccinated. There are some quarantine "camps" where returning international visitors can quarantine for 14 days and take several coronavirus tests. If not infectious they leave these quarantine facilities after 14 days and go home. If infectious they wait until their swabs return a negative result and then they are released to return to their homes. At present there is one quarantine facility or "camp" in Australia - Howard Springs near Darwin Northern Territory - all other quarantine setups for international visitors and cross border travellers stay in hotels (usually 14 days and having 3 swabs taken). Australia is likely to reward fully vaccinated people with a "passport" to visit pubs and clubs and sports, but the anti-vaxxers will be barred from such. In a pandemic people should simply get vaccinated. And Christians ought to be law-abiding citizens, as vaccination against coronavirus is not a violation of the gospel nor ungodly.

News to me. Where are these camps?

Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, And scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 It is for chastening that ye endure; God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye are without chastening, whereof all have been made partakers, then are ye [illegitimate], and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we had the fathers of our flesh as chasteners, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of the spirits, and live?

Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars; see ye be not troubled: for it must come to pass; but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and famines shall be and earthquakes in diverse places. 8 But all these are the beginning of travails. [pangs or pains of childbirth] 24:20 And pray that your flight be not in winter, neither on a sabbath: 21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the world’s beginning until now, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. 24:29 But straightway after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of the heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send forth his angels with a great trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the heavens’ ends unto their ends.

A lot lot more bad things and events are going to happen and come upon the whole world yet. Pestilence is just one calamity. Luke 21:10 Then said he [Jesus] to them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; 11 and great earthquakes shall be, and in diverse places famines and pestilences; and terrors shall be and great signs from heaven. Luke 21:25 And signs shall be in sun and moon and stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, in perplexity for the roaring of sea and billow; 26 men fainting for fear, and expectation of the things coming on the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 But when these things begin to come to pass, look up, and lift up your heads; because your redemption draweth nigh.

1John 2:26 These things have I written you concerning those deceiving you. 27 And the anointing which YE received of him abideth in you, and ye have no need that one teach you; but as his anointing teacheth you concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, abide in him.

So which writings of Enoch were cited??

John the apostle is writing to and for Spirit-filled Christians who have the Spirit of truth dwelling within them. Already by John's latter years many heresies and other gospels were being preached and causing problems in the church (the body of Christ). John is encouraging the saints to test the spirits (that which is being preached by some people) by remembering their unction and the original commandments of the gospel they received. So praying in tongues (praying in the Holy Spirit) is a first step to seeking guidance from God over questionable doctrines that go against what the apostles had already set out in writing. Additionally, the Holy Spirit provides spiritual gifts to the Spirit-filled church - 1Cor 12:10 and to another workings of powers; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits: to another kinds of tongues; and to another interpretation of tongues; this gift is available when prayed for to assist those in the body of Christ insight and guidance over spiritual preaching and doctrines that are suspect or at variance with the fundamental truths of the gospel once delivered to the saints. Some years ago everybody was agog over a new set of must read books by a high profile celebrity U.S. pastor. Everybody was claiming that this was a new revelation and would change Christian faith and church life forever. I started reading a borrowed copy from a besotted brother in the Lord and after a couple of chapters I thought to myself this is rubbish; there is no new revelation here. This is feel good fudge with chocolate, not meat and potatoes. So I laid hands on this book and prayed in the Spirit over it for a good 15 minutes or so - and the Lord revealed to me that this work was not from Him, but inspired by the enemy. Some offences are highly visible, like all the Halloween nonsense, but some offences are subtle and need us to be vigilant.

First pray. Pray fervently and throw all your needs upon God. Pray for his intervention and protection. As to, the court orders that depends on value for money. Are you throwing away good money not to achieve the outcome you want?? Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths. Proverbs 3:5+6

Thankyou I will.

Praying in the Holy Spirit - praying in tongues - has nothing to do with intuition and feelings: it is by the work of the Holy Spirit. And it most certainly does not by-pass God's word (scripture) in fact it is the fulfillment of scripture. In fact Jesus and the Father want us to speak (pray) in tongues - Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that have believed: in my name shall they cast out demons, speak with tongues; 1Cor 14:39 So then, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 1Cor 14:2 For who speaketh in a tongue speaketh not to men, but to God; for no one heareth; but in spirit he speaketh mysteries. 1Cor 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. Romans 8:26 And in like manner the Spirit also helpeth our infirmity: for we know not how to pray as we ought; but the Spirit himself intercedeth mightily for us with groanings unutterable; Jude 1:17 But YE beloved, remember the words spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18 that they said to you, In the last time mockers shall be, walking after their own ungodly lusts. 19 These are they who make separations, having only soul, not having Spirit. 20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in God’s love, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

But speaking in tongues has not ceased - praying in the Holy spirit is still happening.

You have responded to my post without reading it and have immediately reacted with your bias and loathing of Michael Heiser. Neither the Book of Enoch nor I make any claim that angels are responsible for salvation. The issue is that angels and other spirit beings in the heavenly realm are given responsibilities for peoples and events here on earth. Angels are involved as ministering spirits to attend to nations and individuals. I and many other saints have testimonies to angels coming to our aid in times of peril, etc. Daniel 10:11 And he said to me, “O Daniel, man greatly loved, understand the words that I speak to you, and stand upright, for now I have been sent to you.” And when he had spoken this word to me, I stood up trembling. Daniel 10:21 But I will tell you what is inscribed in the book of truth: there is none who contends by my side against these except Michael, your prince. Daniel 12:1 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book. Joshua 5:13 When Joshua was by Jericho, he lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, a man was standing before him with his drawn sword in his hand. And Joshua went to him and said to him, “Are you for us, or for our adversaries?” 14 And he said, “No; but I am the commander of the army of the LORD. Now I have come.” And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped and said to him, “What does my lord say to his servant?” Rev 12:7 Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, 8 but he was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven.

This is descriptive about angels who have duties given to them by God. The sentence concerning Phanuel does not state that that angel is the author and giver of repentance and salvation, but rather he presides over those who have done so. Luke 15:7 Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance. Luke 15:10 Just so, I tell you, there is joy before the angels of God over one sinner who repents. Hebrews 1:14 Are they [angels] not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation? Daniel 12:1 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.

Psalm 14:2 The LORD looks down from heaven on the children of man, to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God. Proverbs 30:2 Surely I am too stupid to be a man. I have not the understanding of a man. 3 I have not learned wisdom, nor have I knowledge of the Holy One.

Psalm 10:3 For the wicked boasts of the desires of his soul, and the one greedy for gain curses and renounces the LORD. 4 In the pride of his face the wicked does not seek him; all his thoughts are, “There is no God.”

NO the real question is - how can you prove that God does not exist?

Sorry cannot agree - Mount Hermon and its association with the gates to the underworld make much more sense for Jesus to reveal himself over and above those under the earth.

Not true. Additional reading material much like books on ancient middle east religion and culture. Look at all the trashy suss books in a big Christian bookstore.

To be a Christian disciple is to understand that we have a parent - child relationship with our Father. And we communicate with him in childlike simplicity when we pray in tongues.

so let us dispense with vaccinations and remain in peril forever And we could all wear medical grade masks for the rest of our lives.

@LittleMan123 And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who seek him. Hebrews 11:6

Daniel 12:8 I heard, but I did not understand. Then I said, “O my lord, what shall be the outcome of these things?” 9 He said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are shut up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many shall purify themselves and make themselves white and be refined, but the wicked shall act wickedly. And none of the wicked shall understand, but those who are wise shall understand.

Ephesians 6:10 For the rest, be strong in the Lord, and in the might of his strength. 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For our wrestling is not against blood and flesh, but against the principalities, against the authorities, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spirituals of the wickedness in the heavenlies.

The book 1st Enoch tells us in paragraph six about the fall of the angels - verse 6: "And they were in all two hundred; who descended [in the days] of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it." Now to the NT - where did Jesus go to perform his transfiguration? He went to Mount Hermon. Why there? Mount Hermon was known in the pagan religious cultures of Mesopotamia, the Greeks and the Romans as the gates to the underworld. Matthew 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into a high mountain apart: 2 and he was transfigured before them; and his face did shine as the sun, and his garments became white as the light. 3 And lo, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with him. Matthew 16:13 Now when Jesus came into the parts of Cæsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Who do men say that the Son of man is? 14 And they said, Some say John the Baptist; and some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith to them, But who say YE that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said to him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in the heavens. 18 And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give thee the keys of the kingdom of the heavens; and whatever thou shalt bind on the earth shall be bound in the heavens; and whatever thou shalt loose on the earth shall be loosed in the heavens. 20 Then charged he the disciples that they should tell no one that he is the Christ. Cesarea Philippi was anciently called Paneas, from the mountain of Panium, or Hermon, at the foot of which it was situated, near the springs of Jordan. Luke 9:37 And it came to pass, on the next day, when they were come down from the mountain, a great crowd met him. 9:42 And as he was yet a coming, the demon rent and convulsed him grievously. But Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, and healed the boy, and gave him back to his father.