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  1. A Look at History With and Without Israel http://graceambassadors.com/midacts/a-look-at-history-with-and-without-israel By Justin Johnson History is dated around the incarnation of Christ. There is history before Christ (B.C), and the present time with Christ (A.D.). There is another way to look at history: when God worked through Israel. Most of Bible history concerns that one nation God ordained with a promise to Israel’s forefathers: “I will make of thee a great nation” and “in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed” (Gen 12:3; Gen 22:18). This Hebrew nation was to be God’s channel of blessing to the nations of the world. Israel was not to be reckoned among the nations (Num 23:9). Any nation that was not Israel was known as Gentile. God has not dealt with any nation as he did with Israel (Num 23:9; Psa 147:20). When God works through Israel, there must also be Gentiles: nations that would receive blessing (or curse) through God’s working with Israel. A Look at History From Adam to Abraham God did not work through any single nation. There was no promise, no Israel; no Jew, no Gentile. With the giving of promises to Abraham, their covenants, and law, there was the Israel of God; a separation of Jew and Gentile. We see in history a period with Christ, and a period without Christ. We can also see a period with Israel (Jew and Gentile) and a period without Israel (neither Jew nor Gentile). When seen together we can start to see God’s purpose in history. In the beginning there was a period without Jew or Gentile and without Christ. This resulted in man’s failure. In time past there was a second period with Israel (Jew and Gentile) but without Christ. This resulted in Israel’s failure. Since Christ, there is a period with Israel (Jew and Gentile) and with Christ. This will result in the salvation of Israel and the blessing of the nations. Fourthly, there is a period without Israel (no Jew nor Gentile) and with Christ. This results in the salvation of a creature not mentioned in Israel’s history called the church, the Body of Christ (Rom 11:32; Gal 3:28; Col 3:11; Eph 2:15). God Working in History With Israel God is operating with nations, and intervening on earth according to his covenants with Israel. Without Israel God is not operating with nations, and does not intervene on earth according to his covenants with Israel. Without Christ man fails at attaining any sort of righteousness before God (Rom 3:23). With Christ God succeeds at providing salvation by his grace through faith. Few Christians are ignorant that we are now living in the time of history with Christ, but few understand that we are living in a period without Israel, spiritual or otherwise (2 Cor 5:17; Gal 3:28; Gal 6:15). – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – For a lesson describing this change in the Bible see our chart lesson here. Related posts: -Without Israel, Without Covenants, Without the Law -Did Gentiles In the Old Testament Get Salvation? -Not Every Gentile is in the Church -What Is God’s Prophetic Purpose For Israel? -Does Romans 2:28-29 Teach A Spiritual Israel? -The Kingdom of Priests -No More Strangers and Foreigners
  2. Holidays and vacations I spend at home. I's where my heart is because my family is there. Personally, I don't travel and instead I save money for a probable necessary trip later. Butterflies slow down the car to let them float by? OR Keep going and let the car hit them?
  3. I'm so sorry you're having trouble understanding. Keep trying !!!
  4. No More Strangers and Foreigners By Justin Johnson Ephesians 2:12 says Gentiles were “aliens” and “strangers” from Israel and the covenants of promise. Seven verses later Gentiles are “no more strangers and foreigners”. Something happened in those seven verses that granted uncircumcised Gentiles benefits they did not have before. What happened? What are the benefits? The answers are in the context. If we ignore the verses between Eph 2:12 and Eph 2:19, we could easily jump to the wrong conclusion that the church is Israel now and the true recipients of Israel’s covenants of promise. In Time Past Between Eph 2:12 and Eph 2:19 there is a dispensational change. That is to say Paul explains a change in God’s revelation concerning how he relates to us and we to him. In Ephesians 2:12 Paul is explaining the way God related to the world in “time past” as seen in the previous verse. In time past God purposed to work through Israel to bless the nations. Israel was the channel of blessing from God to the world. No one had closer access to God than did a Jew. Jews were separated from Gentiles by their God given covenants, circumcision, and laws. In time past, Gentiles had no access to God or his blessings except through Israel and their covenants. Gentiles had no hope without Israel, the created nation of priests. But now, it is different. A Dispensational Change In a single verse Paul leaps a dispensational boundary from how God operated in time past, to describing how God operates now. Now, Gentiles have the privilege of being “in Christ Jesus” by the blood of Christ offered to all, both those that were far off in time past, and those that were nigh in time past (Eph 2:17). No longer do Gentiles need to go to Israel or be partakers of their covenants of promise to receive hope and blessings from God. Eph 2:13 describes their privilege of gaining access to God and his blessings by means of the blood of Christ. Instead of requiring Israel to offer sacrifices to make peace with God, Gentiles could now glory that Christ Jesus is our peace (Eph 2:14). The same Christ according to the mystery has broken down what separated the Jew and Gentile in time past, and which, at that time, gave Israel special access to God and salvation. Now, all have free access to God through Jesus Christ by the preaching of the cross. A New Creature Paul continues to explain the change in Eph 2:15-16. Whereas in time past there were two peoples (Jew and Gentiles), there is now only one man. Moreover, the one man is a new man, being neither Jew nor Gentile. Both Jew and Gentile are reconciled to God equally in one body by the cross (Eph 2:16). In time past, the house of God was the house of Israel. But now, the house of God is a body of believers in Christ. Gentiles do not need to go through Israel to be reconciled. They now have access in the “one body” of Christ. Gentiles do not need to partake in Israel’s covenants of promise to have peace with God. They can now be saved freely by the cross (Eph 2:8-9). Access Through Christ Eph 2:18 explains the benefit and privilege that is now accessible to Gentiles. In time past it would’ve been a privilege to be part of Israel, and heir to Israel’s covenants, because it would grant exclusive access to God and his blessings. But now, access to the Father is offered freely to all men through Jesus Christ according to the revelation of the mystery. Men no longer need to be citizens of Israel to have access to God. We need to be members of the one body of Christ, the new creature. Neither do men need to be heirs of Israel’s covenants to receive blessings from God. We need to be part of God’s promise in Christ to offer salvation freely to all men by his grace (Eph 3:6). No More Strangers In time past Gentiles were aliens from Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise given to Israel, making them far off from the only channel of access to God and his blessings. But now, a new channel of direct access to God is revealed for both Jew and Gentile which is through the Lord Jesus Christ according to the gospel of the grace of God. There is no more separation between Jew and Gentile. We are fellowcitizens with all saints (who are no longer called circumcision nor uncircumcision, but saints). Instead of becoming part of the house of Israel and Judah according to the old and new covenants, we are partakers of the household of God, which is the church (1 Tim 3:15). Instead of strangers we are all familiar to God, and instead of being foreign we can now receive the benefits of God’s grace as rightful heirs in Christ (Rom 5:2, Rom 8:17). If any be in Christ, he is no more strangers and foreigners. -Are We Under Any Covenants? -Did Gentiles In the Old Testament Get Salvation? -A Look at History With and Without Israel -Without Israel, Without Covenants, Without the Law -Differences Between the Old Covenant, New Covenant, and the Fellowship of the Mystery -Should We Bless Israel -Not Every Gentile is in the Church
  5. A Strange Teaching on the New Testament By Justin Johnson It was brought to my attention this week that the brethren at the Berean Bible Society have once again1 posted their firm convictions about the Body of Christ being under the New Covenant. Would not this vague ‘umbrella’ doctrine lower our heavenly position in Christ to that of an earthly covenant, and diminish the simplicity that is in Christ by blending Prophecy and Mystery? John Nelson Darby thought it would when he wrote his Synposis of the Bible over one hundred years ago: The mystery of Christ teaches that the position of the new creature, the Body of Christ, does not depend upon a promised covenant, but upon the very gospel of the grace of God first delivered to the apostle Paul to us (Col 1:20-28). And as others have said before, the gospel is not a covenant. Both of these dispensational forefathers knew that the gospel given to Paul that creates the Body of Christ was not the teaching of the New Covenant which was made with Israel. Since unashamed workmen separate prophecy from mystery we must separate the Body of Christ from Israel’s New Covenant. What is the New Covenant The New Covenant was part of God’s prophesied purpose to make a peculiar people on the earth to bless all nations (Gentiles) (Exo 19:5-6). The New Covenant would accomplish for Israel what the Old could not, that is, provide Israel the ability to serve God in righteousness on the earth. It provided for the forgiveness of Israel’s sins and the spiritual ability to walk in God’s statutes (Jer 31:31-34; Eze 36:27). In short, it would provide salvation to Israel, and through them to the world. The New Covenant would allow Israel to fulfill its God given destiny to have dominion over all the earth as God’s peculiar people (Deut 14:2, 26:18). The fulfillment of the New Covenant is still future when Israel receives its kingdom (Acts 3:19-21; Heb 8:13; 1 Pet 1:13). How, then, can the Body of Christ be under it who were not recipients of its promises, and who are not on earth at the time of its fulfillment? None of these promises were given to Gentiles, and what a strange thing it would be to place the Body of Christ, which possesses a calling higher than anything prophesied to Israel, under an earthly covenant (Eph 2:6, 3:18). Partaking of Spiritual Things It is true that the Gentiles in Romans 15:27 were partakers of the spiritual things of the remnant of Israel. Yet, nothing in Paul’s epistles necessitates Gentiles be under any of Israel’s covenants of promise to receive these spiritual blessings. More likely the spiritual things referred to in Romans 15:27 are the ones mentioned in Romans 11:11. At one time, salvation was “of the Jews” (John 4:22), but now, Paul says, it is come to the Gentiles. What a reversal! How could salvation come to Gentiles without any covenants and without Israel’s salvation (New Covenant)? Only through the mystery of Christ, where Gentiles no longer go through Israel (or its covenants) to receive blessing, but access God freely through Christ by His grace. While it is true that the New Covenant promised salvation to Israel, it was not salvation through Paul’s mystery gospel. The salvation of Israel was tied up in covenants, promises, laws, and prophecy. Paul’s gospel of salvation was not a covenant. Gentiles did not need a covenant to receive by grace the few blessings listed in Jeremiah 31 or any of the numerous spiritual blessings bestowed uniquely upon the Body of Christ not promised to Israel. Not one Israelite in time past ever experienced all the spiritual blessings of the mystery of Christ since they were hid in God (Eph 3:8-10). The Blood of the New Testament Indeed, Paul emphasizes that every member of the Body of Christ is a partaker of the blood of Christ in a special communion, but not partakers of the New Covenant: Just as the gospel is not a covenant, the communion of the blood of Christ is not a covenant. That same blood of Christ shed for the New Testament is what is now preached by Paul as the means of redemption for all men without a covenant: The blood of Christ is what reconciled all things to God, not just the covenanted earthly things, but also heaven, which is the topic of the mystery of Christ: The ‘Umbrella’ of Christ Why would we need to be under the New Covenant umbrella when we have access to God directly through Christ by his grace and not through a promised covenant (Rom 5:2, Eph 2:18)? Indeed we share in common with Israel the need for the blood of Christ for salvation. Israel needs the blood for their promised New Covenant salvation, while the Body of Christ receives the benefits of his blood freely by grace apart from any covenant (1 Cor 2:7-12). We are “made nigh” not by a covenant, but by the blood of Christ (Eph 2:13). As a result a new man is created that possesses “all spiritual blessings”, will inhabit heavenly places, and ministers the manifold wisdom of God (Eph 3:10-12). In light of the the numerous spiritual blessings given freely to the Body of Christ, it would seem there is not enough room under a New Covenant umbrella to hold all of the unsearchable riches of Christ. Rather than the umbrella being the New Covenant, the umbrella that contains us all is Christ, at once, both the head of the Body of Christ, and the mediator of a better testament for Israel. The preeminent Christ is the connection between the two programs of God, not a mere covenant given to Israel. The earthly purpose will be fulfilled by Christ through his promised covenant, and the heavenly purpose is accomplished by Christ in a mystery on the cross. – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – 1 Their article “What We Believe” has been sent out eight times in the past eight years in their Two Minutes With the Bible email. My response was first published in 2012. -Are We Under Any Covenants? -Without Israel, Without Covenants, Without the Law -The New Covenant Can Rob You -30 Reasons We do not Operate Under the New Testament -No More Strangers and Foreigners -Differences Between the Old Covenant, New Covenant, and the Fellowship of the Mystery -10 Reasons 2 Chronicles 7:14 is not About You
  6. By Faith and Through Faith By Justin Johnson Inevitably, discussing this verse involves a gauntlet of word games and definitions. Why is it by for the circumcision and through for the uncircumcision? Everyone knows there is a difference, but what exactly is it? Let’s give it a go. Under the law dispensation, righteousness came through obedience to Israel’s covenants. Yet, even Israel, who was instructed by God from the law, could not keep the law. Both Jew and Gentile were under sin. The law could not justify: Not even Israel could be justified by the law. It was through the requirements of the covenant that Jesus died as a propitiation for the “remission of sins that are past”, those sins committed under the law dispensation (Rom 3:25). All Men Justified By Faith Justification always requires faith. For the circumcision, justification was by faith. The covenant promised kingdoms and required works. Faith would obey God. Through obedience to the covenants Israel’s faith was made perfect. They were justified by faith and works through their covenants with God. Through Faith The law was an integral part of God’s prophetic purpose with Israel (Rom 3:1-2). The law required obedience. However, the circumcision was truly justified by faith when they failed to obey. Faith would offer a sacrifice through the covenant. The uncircumcision had been rejected by God already. They were strangers of the covenants (Eph 2:10). There was no pretense that they would be justified through a covenant. The sinners of the Gentiles could only hope to be justified through faith in the gospel of the grace of God. The uncircumcision was justified by faith, but being strangers of the covenants it was also through faith in the finished work of Christ (Rom 5:1, Eph 2:8). Faith Without the Law The law, which was the knowledge of sin, taught Israel that they needed faith in God (Rom 3:19-20). It was not until Paul that righteousness without the law was manifested and faith stood alone for justification. Today, it has been revealed that all are under sin. Justification comes by faith in God’s instructions, but also through faith alone in Christ’s finished work. No more works are needed, no covenant is needed, justification is offered today by faith and through faith without works. Israel’s faith did not void the law. Our faith is without the law. Related posts: -Abraham, Father of Us All -Does Romans 2:28-29 Teach A Spiritual Israel? -When Can Works Justify -Did Paul Preach A Different Gospel? -Your Circumcision is Not of the Heart -The Most Common Response to Grace -Is Faith Without Works Dead?
  7. put a lid on it Teachers used to say that, hah !!!
  8. Is Faith Without Works Dead? The Bible defines faith as the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1). It is undeniable that faith without substance is no faith at all, but merely a false hope. However, those who do not rightly divide the Scripture often are plagued with a misunderstanding of the separate faiths that have been offered throughout dispensations. It is a misconception to think that the substance of faith remains the same for every person and group in the Bible. The Just Shall Live by Faith Scripture records that the just in every age shall live by faith, and yet the substance or content of that faith changes as it is revealed. It is an unchangeable principle of God that the righteous, in any age, must live by faith, and operate according to the obedience of that faith (Acts 6:7, Romans 1:5). However, we must recognize the dispensational changes in the substance of that faith as it is revealed from God. Noah had faith in a flood and salvation by an ark. Moses had faith in God who would deliver them from Egypt, and salvation from enemy bondage. The Hope of Israel It is clearly stated in the opening verse of James, that he writes to the ‘twelve tribes’ and ‘my brethren’, who were Israelites, scattered by the persecution of unbelieving Israel. Writing to the twelve tribes, James writes concerning the faith and hope of Israel during the Pentecostal period. It is during this time that the gospel of the kingdom was preached by Peter who proclaimed the ‘last days’ before Christ’s return (Acts 2:16-17,3:19-21). Instead of having a hope based upon the preaching of the cross, Israel’s hope was in the salvation offered by the coming Holy One and promised kingdom (Luke 1:68-75). It was this information that Peter presented for acceptance by faith. Along with believing Jesus to be the Holy One, Peter called upon Israel to repent and perform the works necessary to exhibit their repentance according to what Jesus had taught. A Faith That Produces Works In order to enter the kingdom, Jesus taught that Israel must be righteous. In fact, they must be perfect ‘even as your Father in heaven is perfect’ (Matthew 5:48). If a believer was to have faith in the coming kingdom with Jesus as its Messiah, then they would of necessity be obliged to perform the works of the law as obedience to that faith. The substance of the faith was entering the coming kingdom with Jesus as Messiah. The obedience to that faith would naturally be performing works required to enter the kingdom, and be admitted into Jesus’ kingdom. When faith was obeyed by these Jewish believers, they would exhibit the works required by their faith. The substance of their faith was obedience to the law, even the new covenant, as Jesus, the Holy One, both taught and exemplified (Matthew 5:20, 8:4, 23:2-3). A Dead Faith If the substance of your faith was the coming kingdom, which required a righteous performance of works for admission, then you could evaluate a person’s faith by their obedience to perform works. The faith of these Jewish believers at Pentecost demanded the obedience of works. Otherwise, the substance of their faith was not alive – it was dead! Only someone who did not have faith of a coming kingdom, or did not want to enter the coming kingdom would deny necessary works. James reasons that a man reaches justification, which is the proof of salvation, through the necessary works. Another Hope, Another Faith The just will live by faith. Until the revelation of the mystery, the substance of faith always included God’s involvement with the nation Israel, its promised kingdom, and its associated covenants. It was not until Paul that salvation was offered by grace through faith alone apart from any special nation, kingdom requirements, or covenant stipulations (Romans 4:5, Eph 2:8-9, Romans 11:6, Eph 2:12). Paul offered a hope not based upon a promised earthly kingdom of peace and righteous rule, but a hope of salvation found within the preaching of the cross (Eph 2:7, Romans 5:2-4). The saving faith we are taught includes the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ who was delivered for our offences and raised again for our free justification (Romans 4:25). We are given free justification by grace apart from any meritorious work of our own (Romans 3:24). Contained in this further revelation which was not revealed to Peter, James, or John prior to Paul was that our faith is not in a covenantal law, which required performance, but in the death of Jesus Christ for our sins. The Obedience of Faith The substance of our faith is the atoning work of Christ on the cross in our place (Galatians 2:16, Romans 3:21-26). Unique to this dispensation of emphatic grace, the obedience to this faith requires no works at all! Instead of evaluating our faith based upon performance, our faith is evaluated based on Christ’s performance in our place, which was sufficient for every man! Praise God! It was when we were weak, and given up by God as enemies, Christ died for us: Dead Faith in the Dispensation of Grace Citing James 2:14-26, teachers seek to justify a performance-based evaluation of ‘true’ faith today in the dispensation of grace. Yet, unknowingly, they rob people of the benefits the righteousness of God which only comes freely by faith in Christ (Romans 3:22-24,5:2). In order for a faith to be dead in this dispensation, the substance of their faith must be inactive. That is, if our faith is in Jesus Christ’s work on the cross, then a dead faith would be like preaching a dead Jesus who could not perform that which he promised (Romans 4:19-21). Contrariwise, any person who has faith in the cross of Christ has the full assurance of salvation because God is able to perform that which we could not – a proper atonement of our sins. Our faith can only be annulled or dead if the work of Christ was annulled or insufficient. Impossible! Do not be robbed of the glorious grace of God by a lack of rightly dividing the Scriptures. It is the precious truth of the efficacious atoning blood of Jesus that is the focus and climax of the gospel! Whereas James taught a faith that required works in order to be ‘perfect’, we are given a perfect position by our faith in Christ alone! Amen and Amen. (2 Cor 5:21, Phil 3:12) Related posts: -By Faith and Through Faith -When Can Works Justify -Works Never Saved Anyone -Did Paul Preach A Different Gospel? -Blind Faith Is Worthless -“Repent and Do Works” -Abraham, Father of Us All
  9. Good thread topic. People seem upset by the suggestion of thinking and talking about the events in Revelation.
  10. Pursuing Marriage in Christ By Justin Johnson God intended marriage to be good. Too many marriages end up in tragedy. When seeking marriage, how do you make sure your relationship starts on the right foot? When trying to win someone’s heart, it is natural to exert maximum effort to put your best foot forward. This ends up being the wrong foot. To become the object of another’s affections, you conform to what they desire, which may be different than what you truly are. If they saw how you really were, you fear, they might become disinterested and the hope of love destroyed. This is why one of the most common problems in marriage relationships is expecting your spouse to be something they are not. When hearts have been won and marriage occurs, both put less effort on their best foot and the other shoe drops. To keep the shoe from dropping some marriages trudge along attempting to maintain maximum effort to be someone they are not. This rarely ends well. Therefore, the usual marriage advice is to find someone who loves you for who you really are. This way there are no false expectations and less effort is required. This can be called putting your worst foot forward. Leading with your worst foot is not good either. The problem with this advice is that the Bible tells us that we are all sinners, and no one wants a sinner for a spouse. This is true no matter how much they claim to love you just as you are. God already knows the worst about us. God has already commended his love toward us. God loves his Son, and wants us to be conformed to His image. Moreover, God provides the grace and power for this to occur through faith. Sinners can become saints in Christ by grace through faith. The good news for marriage is that it was never intended to be only for perfect people (or perfect matches). There is no such thing. Neither is it merely where two sinners maintain close proximity without harming each other. Marriage is for two people to learn to love how God loves. Loving first, sacrificially, completely, by grace, in Christ, and in the face of a sinner. You don’t have to be someone you are not for marriage to work. Nor are you resigned to be the sinner that you were. You must only be who you are in Christ. This is why the only condition given to Christians on whom they marry is “in the Lord” (1 Cor 7:39). This way there are no false expectations: sin will be present; but there is also hope: you know the love of Christ. You are the hands and feet of Christ. Put that foot forward, and marriage success will be only as distant as you in Christ. -Grace and Marriage -Loving God to Death -How to Preach the Love of God in Christ -Showing Grace Toward Others -Give More Than Love -Jesus Loves Me -The Grace Reason to Do Good
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