Philadelphianlady

By the tags under the title of this post you can tell it is written by one of the uninformed of 1 Corinthians 14:23

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All I know is the days are 1000 year periods. Thanks for responding. It might be something you would like to look into further.

To @AlChristfollower: What do you think about Hosea 6:1-2 Come, and let us return to the Lord; For He has torn, but He will heal us; He has stricken, but He will bind us up. 2 After two days He will revive us; On the third day He will raise us up, That we may live in His sight. What are the dates for the 2000 years (2 days) that would end in 2023. Is it Christ's crucifixion? Our calendar seems screwed.

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Yes, I agree, and that is what was meant in the EoB I really enjoyed your insight, and will be keeping 2023 in mind as things progress in the next few years. If it is accurate, I doubt Trump will win in 2020. Our reprieve will be over, and we as a world will have not repented. Probably Oprah! LOL

An old pastor of mine, Dr. Jack Hayford, walked into the parish one Saturday when the church was only 18 members and there was a silvery mist (cloud) in the center. A voice came out of the cloud and said "I will fill this place with my glory."

"Eternity" is my word of explanation. You do believe there is something after the end of the 7000 years. Going back to creation, it is the day without end after the 7th day, called here the 8th day. Did you read it? (a few posts back from the Epistle of Barnabas)

I provided my source, but you won't like it. How it says it there is the eighth day is the beginning of another world.

Barnabas 15:1 Moreover concerning the Sabbath likewise it is written in the Ten Words, in which He spake to Moses face to face on Mount Sinai; And ye shall hallow the Sabbath of the Lord with pure hands and with a pure heart. Barnabas 15:2 And in another place He saith; If my sons observe the Sabbath then I will bestow My mercy upon them. Barnabas 15:3 Of the Sabbath He speaketh in the beginning of the creation; And God made the works of His hands in six days, and He ended on the seventh day, and rested on it, and He hallowed it. Barnabas 15:4 Give heed, children, what this meaneth; He ended in six days. He meaneth this, that in six thousand years the Lord shall bring all things to an end; for the day with Him signifyeth a thousand years; and this He himself beareth me witness, saying; Behold, the day of the Lord shall be as a thousand years. Therefore, children, in six days, that is in six thousand years, everything shall come to an end. Barnabas 15:5 And He rested on the seventh day. this He meaneth; when His Son shall come, and shall abolish the time of the Lawless One, and shall judge the ungodly, and shall change the sun and the moon and the stars, then shall he truly rest on the seventh day. Barnabas 15:6 Yea and furthermore He saith; Thou shalt hallow it with pure hands and with a pure heart. If therefore a man is able now to hallow the day which God hallowed, though he be pure in heart, we have gone utterly astray. Barnabas 15:7 But if after all then and not till then shall we truly rest and hallow it, when we shall ourselves be able to do so after being justified and receiving the promise, when iniquity is no more and all things have been made new by the Lord, we shall be able to hallow it then, because we ourselves shall have been hallowed first. Barnabas 15:8 Finally He saith to them; Your new moons and your Sabbaths I cannot away with. Ye see what is His meaning ; it is not your present Sabbaths that are acceptable [unto Me], but the Sabbath which I have made, in the which, when I have set all things at rest, I will make the beginning of the eighth day which is the beginning of another world. Barnabas 15:9 Wherefore also we keep the eighth day for rejoicing, in the which also Jesus rose from the dead, and having been manifested ascended into the heavens.

I found a source that says the days of creation are interpreted to be 6000 years for mankind, then 1000 year Millennium. The eighth day has no end as it is eternity.

Can you narrow it down a bit? LOL I'm very interested.

What source gave you the number 6000 years? I have one, but I don't think you would accept it (by your avatar)

What is the beginning point or event that brings you to 2023? Who do you see as the possible leader of the United States of Europe? And who do you see as the two witnesses?

Today, more than ever before do we realize by experience what the "cloud" is. It is the glory of God.

2300 days is only a little over 6 years. The plagues in Egypt were not for that long. The only mention of 2300 evenings and mornings/days was referring to the reign of Antiochus Epiphanes IV.

Sorry, still too esoteric to hold my interest.

If you had a point, I missed it.

Ask yourself a question. When is Jesus coming, before or after the Great Tribulation? After! The scriptures you referenced, I've quoted here. They do not say that when Jesus comes seven years after the secret rapture He will return the earth with both those who sleep in Jesus AND the living that were raptured. The rapture doesn't happen until the actual second coming when the spirits Jesus brings back will be reunited with their bodies that are changed. I don't know how you can read these verses any other way??? 1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 5 1 Thessalonians 14:14 " 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

You can be as nasty as you like. Where is your scripture to back up your doctrine without twisting any? Let's see if it is true of false.

ROFL You make a statement with no proof?

Hi Daniel, Are you coming from a pre-trib or post trib standpoint? The way I see 1 Thessalonians 4 about this: 3 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words. 1. Christ returns with the spirits of those who sleep in Chirst - no one alive comes back as pre-tribbers claim. This debunks that false theory. 2. The dead bodies rise first, are reunited with their now glorified bodies and rise in the air. 3. Those who are alive and have never died, are changed with immortal bodies and rise to meet them in the air.

Together means all those who are alive. The dead come back with Christ. Period. And those who are alive are joined with them at the second coming. What it is not is there is a secret rapture of the alive and dead, and then 7 years later the dead and the alive come back with Christ to meet the Christian Jews who are alive and have remained on earth..

Even though you read it that way, I see it just the opposite. If there was a rapture seven years (or even 3 1/2) before Christ returns, then the alive would return with the dead, not meet them in the air at the second coming.

I don't actually attempt to interpret dreams. I know when a dream is prophetic, and the interpretation comes with it. I also know when its pizza.