Gentle-Warrior

I hate dispensations not because it is a noun that only appears in the kjv and the njkv bibles. The noun simply means administration or stewardship. The issue is that dispensationalists go far beyond than merely quoting a noun from the kjv, but go on to divide the word of truth by separating Israel from the church. This is something that Paul clearly dealt with in Eph 2:11-22. Therefore, God has only one people today: The body of Christ that is composed of all the nations of the world including believing Jews. Are we in agreement now?

I'm not interested in having a discussion about the kjv only cult. It is totally ridiculous to say the least. If you are interested in attacking modern and scholarly translations, you are a divider that works for the enemy to prove a moot point. The link below destroys your arguments if you want to go that avenue. As for me, I wouldn't waste my time reading a translation that is 412 years old. I don't need to learn how to speak Shakespearean English. https://www.equip.org/article/is-your-modern-translation-corrupt/

Don't waste your time pasting articles that I won't read. It is you that contradicts the scriptures because Jesus never once promised an earthly kingdom. The so called Millennium is MAN-MADE, not GOD-ORDAINED, therefore is false from the get-go. John 18:36 is clear, so if you have an issue with that, go to the Lord and demand an explanation. Let's see how far you get! By the way, did you know that God dwells in unapproachable light? 1 Timothy 6:16 (NASB95) 16 "who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen." How in the world do you expect Jesus, God the Son, the Son of God, Lord of creation, redeemer and King, to come in His holiness and His radiant glory that surpasses the biggest star of the universe and not incinerate the entire earth? Have you ever thought about that?

You are wasting your time. I'm not interested in man's opinions. Since Jesus never once mentioned that He will return to micromanage the earth for 1,000 literal years, there is no need to manipulate, twist and distort what He didn't say and what the NT is completely silent about. The fact is that when Jesus ascended to the throne in heaven, He sat down at the right hand of God having all authority in heaven and on earth which means He reigns from heaven forever and ever (Mat. 28:18, Eph. 1:20-23). After all, did you forget that Jesus is God Almighty, creator, redeemer and King of the nations? You have a political view about the end times that has nothing to do with the scriptures. Repent from looking at the scriptures from a fleshly view. God is holy and your Israel was done with 2,000 years ago when they got rid of their Messiah while God judged them by burning their city. There are no promises to the land in the NT and no promises to physical Israel. The promises of God were made for a people of faith, not for the ungodly and the unbelieving (Ro. 9:6-8). Get over it.

Covenants are in the bible, so why replace or ignore covenants while that's the beating heart of God? Dispensations are man made. Like it not.

You are not in any position to tell whether I have no idea what the bible teaches or not. It is you who is accusing me of hatred while all along I have been showing you what the word of God says, not what I think. I don't think I want to continue wasting my time with someone who is so caught up with loving the Jews as if they were an elite race. Everyone is free to come to Christ. The death of Jesus Christ on the cross has opened the doors of salvation for all peoples, including the Jews. These doors will continue to be open to all as long as this age exists. I never once said I hate the Jews. The real issue here is that you hate what the word of God says about sinful Israel. Try reading Eze. 16 and be horrified what God says about them.

Not in the Bible.

Stop being a jerk. The Bible was given to the world in Aramean, Hebrew (Old covenant) and Koine Greek (New Covenant). English did not exist when God gave us His holy word. Are you a kjv cult follower that goes to bed with his old, stuffy, archaic language that no one reads from cover to cover because you will need a real English dictionary to explain the words that you have no idea what they mean? I can you give examples that will make your head spin.... if you like.

There is no future Millennium. Jesus is not a local king that will need to physically micromanage sinners all over again. He reigns from heaven. No scripture in the NT mentions that Jesus Christ, Lord of heaven and earth, will come down to reign earth for 1,000 literal wretched years. God has always reigned from heaven. Jesus is God Almighty, not your average king. As for the meek Jesus meant us. We will inherit all that Jesus has conquered as long as we remain faithful to Him (Phil. 3:20-21).

Of course I believe in the Second Coming of Jesus where He will judge the living and the dead. What I don’t believe is in the theory of God the Son coming down to earth when He clearly said that His kingdom is not of this world (Jn 18:36). Jesus reigns in heaven over all creation right now and forever (Mat 28:18, Eph. 1:20-22). Jesus is Lord NOW, not some in intergalactic age of the future.

The kingdom of God came with the giving of the Holy Spirit. Don't you know that? Jesus is Lord and King now, not some obscure time in the future. Jesus is the great I AM.

The kjv is not the bible, but a translation. The noun dispensation means stewardship or administration. You cannot make a doctrine out of a noun. Come on! Look it up in the Greek. If you need help, let me know.

Romans 9:6 All Israel is not Israel. Verse 7 Not all are children because they are the seed of Abraham Verse 8. The children of the flesh are not the children of promise. Rom 11:20-22 God did not spare the natural branches because of their unbelief 11:25 A partial hardening took place in Israel. That means that there was a door of salvation for the Jews that CHOSE to come to Christ, while the rest that refused Christ died in their sins. 11:26 How will all Israel will be saved? By coming to Christ just as everyone else did. Israel was not made out of elite people. Either they came to Christ or rejected Him. The fig tree was dried up because Jesus cursed it. Why did the Lord curse Israel as a whole? Because they didn't produce any fruit in the three years of His ministry (no faith in Christ). The plan of God for the world is to come to Christ. That includes Jews from everywhere. For 2,000 years the doors of salvation have been open and will continue to be open for all people until the end of time. The cross is God's last word to the world. No second chances, God doesn't beg.

I have spoken the truth. If you don't like the truth I wonder if you would get offended by reading 1Thes. 2:14-16. I will quote for you so that you may be scandalized. 1 Thessalonians 2:14–16 (NASB95) 14 "For you, brethren, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, for you also endured the same sufferings at the hands of your own countrymen, even as they did from the Jews, 15 who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all men, 16 hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved; with the result that they always fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come upon them to the utmost." Do you think Paul the apostle, a Jew was also prejudiced like me? LOL! By the way, I love the fact that there are about 500,000 Jews that have bowed the knee to Christ. They are my brethren in the Lord. My issues is not with them but with the church that continues to elevate unconverted Jews that hate the Lord just because they are Jews. I can provide a ton of scriptures where the Lord Himself announced that the Jews were trying to kill Him. Let me now if you are interested.

Have it your way, but I will tell you one thing. If you could get a new believer read the entire bible from cover to cover, he will never come up with dispensations, but I assure you, he will talk about all the covenants that God made with man and would wonder what they mean. Take care,

Amen brother!

I have no pet scriptures. My goal is to glorify Christ the Lord, not modern doctrines. God does not change because His plans have always be perfect. He doesn't change things either because He planned it all before the world was. God makes no mistakes. It is finished (Jn 19:30). Hebrews 4:3 (NASB95) 3 "For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said, “As I swore in My wrath, They shall not enter My rest,” although His works were finished from the foundation of the world." The problem with dispensations is that continues to separate what God has already united in Christ. Ephesians 2:12–14 (NET) "That you were at that time without the Messiah, alienated from the citizenship of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 "But now in Christ Jesus you who used to be far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, the one who made both groups into one and who destroyed the middle wall of partition, the hostility." By the way, your assumption that I have not experienced the baptism of the Holy Spirit is based on pure and unadulterated speculation. I deny nothing except man made doctrines that change the word of God.

The doors of salvation have been open for them for over 2,000 years. I believe the ball is still on their court. God doesn't beg and needs no one to make Him complete. We are the ones who need Him.

http://disq.us/p/2497krj YOu said, {{{"And your insulting way of speaking really undermines your credability.. ""deplorables""? You will not be convincing anyone of your love for the bretheren by speaking to people that way.. You will only convince them of your lack of love for them by unessecaraly using insulting and denegrating tactics.. You may believe you are being Strong and perswasive but you are only projecting the image of being a person who needs to attack the person because their ability to engage the Idea's is weak."}}} When I referred to the "deplorables", I was only thinking of Darby, Scofield and the leaders of this 200 year movement, not believers like you and I that don't agree on the fundamentals, My intention was not to offend you. For that I apologize. I will respond to the rest of your post a bit later...

If you followed scriptures, you would have recognized that it was the Jews who rejected Christ not the other way around. It was the Jews who killed God's prophets and who at the end planned to kill the Son of God by stealth. Yet, the Lord gave them a change to come to Christ even after that, and thousands of Jews came to the Lord in Acts 2-9 and became part of Christ's body, the church or the "called out ones." The error is not mine but yours. Romans 11 refers to old covenant Israel, not the secular nation of today. God never works outside of Christ because the cross is and will always be at the center of God's eternal plan of salvation for everyone, regardless or race, nationality, language or culture.

Why is it so important to you that the Jewish people should be considered as special outside of Christ? Should God show partiality with anybody because of their race? It is by grace through faith that we come to the Lord just as the original church did (all Jews) for the first 10 years (Acts 2-9). The doors to the Jews will continue to be open until the Lord's return. Nothing will change until then. NASB Acts 10:34-35 34 "Opening his mouth, Peter said: “I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, 35 but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him."

{{{Notice how you left off the last verse of Matthew 23... did you do that on purpose? Here it is, and it points to the restoration of Israel and the return of Jesus to rule Israel.... OH OH!!! In the Words of the church lady "isn't that conveeeenient"?}}} I left it out on purpose because I knew you would ignore my entire post just to concentrate on one point. The last verse of Mat. 23, states that the door for the Jews will always be open if they choose to embrace the gospel of Christ and come to Him as lost sinners. Jews have been coming to Christ for the last 2,000 years, not as a special elite race, but as desperate people that needed a Savior--- just like everyone else, since there is no longer a difference between Jew and Gentile anymore (Gal. 3:28-29) because Christ is all and all. Today, we have approximately 500,000 Jews scattered all over the world that have professed to believe in Christ as their Messiah and as their Lord. About 30,000 of them live in modern Israel and because of it, are being harassed by unbelieving Jews as traitors of their race. It takes a devoted heart to stand against the majority and still believe in the Lord. So, what are you going to say now?

Potentially yes, but everyone must make a decision to believe in Christ otherwise the doors of the kingdom will not open to them. You are not an universalist, are you? People that reject Christ and die in their sins have not been reconciled to Christ.

1) How did the Lord fail to tell you that His book is about covenants, not about dispensations? There is nothing in the bible about dispensations. 2) Mat. 24 is about the destruction of Jerusalem and the final judgment on Israel. It begins with the destruction of the temple which means the end of the old covenant, i.e. the law, the sacrifices, the priesthood, etc. 3) Once again, the judgment of Jerusalem took place because Israel killed the prophets He sent them, broke His covenant and at the end rejected and killed the Son of God. There cannot be any promises for a nation that does not exist in God's mind. Can you kill God in the flesh and get away with it as if it didn't' matter. Can you grasp this concept? Matthew 23:34–38 (NASB95) 34 “Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, 35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 “Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. 37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. 3 8“Behold, your house is being left to you desolate!" 4) The kingdom of God came when the Spirit was poured out at Pentecost and it has grown to receive millions and millions of people without number. It is clearly speaking about the birth of the church which is 2,000 years old. God has only one people that has His Spirit. Anyone who doesn't have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to Him (Ro. 8:9).

The faithful are those who are in Christ, not those who belong to a different race or are living in a specific place. God only respects and accepts FAITH IN CHRIST. Nothing else will do.