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"Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the temple.........." Ezekiel 47:1 But you will say that Ezekiel 47:12 matches Revelation 22:1-2. So the temple in Ezekiel 47 is somehow not the same one spoken of in 46? Even though the chapter clearly starts off speaking about that same temple? Clearly the accounts are different. In Revelation 22:1-2 the tree of life is female, and it bears 12 fruits. In Ezekiel 47:12 there is more than one tree, and they are described as male trees, that bring forth new fruit each month. The passages describe two different places. What is being told to us, is that even after everything is over, and paradise begins, the Lord in His great love allows Satan one last chance to try to disrupt things, to try to prove Him wrong. It is that what if something bad happens moment, recorded, that after 1000 years of paradise Satan is allowed to try to stop it, and fails. Everything down here is annihilated by divine fire, and the ultimate pre-planned city comes down to remain for eternity.

(The City Of The Thousand Years) Ezekiel 48:35 "It was round about 18,000 measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The Lord is there" Ezekiel 41:1 "he brought me to the temple, and measured the posts, six cubits broad on one side, and six cubits broad on the other side, which was the breadth of the temple" 18,000 with a 6x6 temple in the middle. (The Eternal City) Revelation 21:16 "the city lies foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, 12,000 furlongs." Revelation 21:22 "And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it." 12,000 with no temple, instead a throne out in the open in the middle. Notice also 18,000 minus the 6x6 temple is 12,000. (Thousand years) Ezekiel 46:1-2 "The gate of the inner court that looks toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened." "And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch of the gate without...... but the gate shall not be shut until the evening." Gates get shut and open at various times. (Eternal kingdom) Revelation 21:25 "And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there" Gates never get shut, and there is no evening.

"And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies gathered together to make war against Him that sat upon the horse, and His army." Revelation 19:19 "And the rest were slain with the sword of Him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded from His mouth" Revelation 19:21 (Revelation 20 is in red) And I saw an angle COME DOWN from the sky, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. Revelation 20:1 Come down to where? Earth. And he laid hold on the dragon, Where is the dragon? "And the great dragon was cast out.... he was cast out into the earth" Revelation 12:9 "Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea for the devil is come down to you" Revelation 12:12 Earth. that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years And I saw THRONES, and they (Rev 19:7,14, Rev 3:21) sat on them, and judgement was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded....; and they (all of them, the two groups of them, the saints and the martyrs) lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished, this is the first resurrection. And when the thousand years are finished, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of THE EARTH, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. AND THEY (Mortals) WENT UP ON THE BREATH OF THE EARTH, and surrounded the camp of the saints, and the beloved city, and fire came DOWN from God OUT OF THE SKY Revelation 20:1-9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all your bands, and many people with you. Ezekiel 38:9 Airplanes literally fly using the breath of the earth. Airplanes, they will be attempting to nuke the camp of the saints.

Paul said he was willing to be present with the Lord, people take that verse and infer that we will be with the Lord upon death, and I do think that is a safe assumption. I think we physically wake up to the day of the Lord upon death. "To you who are troubled rest with us, when, the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from the sky, in flaming fire taking vengeance...." 2 Thessalonians 1:8-10 That is when our rest begins, on the day of the Lord.

I do agree with many points you made, it's a very nice overview. But I do think scripture is clear on point nine. "but the dead know not any thing..... their love and their hatred and their envy is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun" Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 Please notice that is only true concerning physical bodies, not consciousness. Because the saints are physically resurrected (in the same manner Jesus was Luke 24:37-39) and do enjoy things under the sun again. Solomon is speaking from a physical perspective. Consciousness is spiritual, not physical. That the "dead" are conscious is evident in scripture. "Who shall give account to Him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead. For, for this cause was the good news preached to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit." 1 Peter 4:5-6 "By which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison" 1 Peter 3:19 Christ was dead 3 days. Taking the keys of death and Hades at that time. Rev 1:18 When He rose, others also rose: Matthew 24:52-53, no longer needing to remain in the good section of Hades. (Luke 16:19-27) "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord" 2 Corinthians 5:8 "Art thou greater than our Father Abraham, which is dead?" John 8:53 "Abraham rejoiced to see my day, and he saw it and was glad" John 8:56 Likely speaking about the day of the Lord, not His baby birthday, but the day of the Lord, the righteous "dead" wake up to that day. Abraham is not dead, his timeline continued from his death, waking up to the day of the Lord and beyond, that is when Abraham is. That is when we will be to, upon death. But no matter how one wants to interpret John 8:53-58 clearly Jesus is saying that Abraham is not dead, Abraham is not unconscious. The only thing that can destroy consciousness is the fire that will proceed from the Messiah and the final fire from the Father. But the saints are risen immortal even being able to go threw that fire. Revelation 20:4-5 "fear not him that can destroy the body and afterward has nothing more he can do, fear him who can destroy body and consciousness in hell fire" Matthew 10:28 Luke 12:4-5

That is not what the Bible says. Revelation 20 specifically mentions the 1,000 years five times. Revelation 19:21 says Jesus spews fire from His mouth. Revelation 20:9 is the final fire sent down by the Father that destroys sky land and sea resulting in Revelation 21:1. Revelation 21:1 is clearly not referring to a modern understanding of a 'globe' but rather to sky land and sea.

Therefore Ezekiel chapters 40-46 is Not describing the ultimate end. And it shall be the Princes part to prepare all sacrifices. Ezekiel 45:17 That is a clear change of old testament law, marking a different time.

Islam Mahdi = a staged anti-Christ A person claiming to be the Messiah, with miracles = The anti-Christ, the false prophet. The real anti-Christ will likely come slaying a staged anti-Christ, and in that manner seem to be the savior. The real anti-Christ is a great world wide deception.

The "e" is from a grammar change however, the original untouched form is Yashua. Yahoshua, Numbers 13:16 in original Hebrew before "grammar". The prophets' names also testify to the correct sound. Isaiah, Jeremiah, Zechariah, Zephaniah, Yah. Yahweh Yahoshua Yah is the Savior. What sound would Mary a Hebrew have used? Certainly a persons name is whatever sound their parents call them. That sound you heard from your parents over and over, that is your name. Acts 7:45 shows a name error in the king James. It should say "that our Fathers brought in with Joshua" instead it says "Jesus" because around the time of the king James all instances of "Joshua" were changed to "Jesus". Joshua was the English word used, and the record of these things has been muddied largely during what was known as the inquisition, but Acts 7:45 remains as glaring evidence of changes.

Zephaniah makes clear it is not the entire world: "From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering" Zephaniah 3:10 How can that be if the whole globe is destroyed in 3:8 ? And Revelation also gives, clear, revelation, on the matter. The Messiah returns and spews fire and brimstone "out of His mouth" Revelation 19:21. destroying an all nation army gathered to fight Him: Revelation 19:19. The resurrected saints and the Messiah reign for 1000 years with Satan locked away Revelation 20:1-7 "till the thousand years should be fulfilled" 20:3 "lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" 20:4 "the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousands years were finished" 20:5 "...shall reign with Him a thousand years" 20:6 "And when the thousand years are expired..." 20:7 Afterward the Father sends a fire down upon more armies that Satan is allowed to gather against the saints: Revelation 20:7-9, Revelation 20:9. It is after that, that the whole world is described as being destroyed: Revelation 21:1 Let us notice how Revelation 21:1 is worded, so that we can clearly see that by "earth" it means the land, not some 'globe'. "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and earth were passed away, and there was no more sea." Revelation 21:1 If it was referring to a globe, the no more sea part does not make sense. What is being said is that there was no more sky and no more land, and no more sea, everything gets destroyed by divine fire, ( 2 Peter 3:8-12 ) and the city of heaven comes down. Revelation 21:2. Return of Christ, fire from His mouth: Revelation 19:19-21 After Gog and Magog, fire from the Father: Revelation 20:9 That final fire destroys the whole world: 2 Peter 3:8-12, Revelation 21:1. Your view puts the final fire at the return of Christ, but Revelation gives a clear timeline otherwise. The anti-Christ will make fire come from the sky: Revelation 13:13. The real Messiah will spew fire and brimstone "out of His mouth" Revelation 19:19. "For the Lord shall cause His glorious voice to be heard..." Isaiah 30:30 "The Lord shall utter His voice before His army" Joel 2:11 "The rest were slain with the sword of Him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of His mouth" Revelation 19:21

Yes there is, Revelation 20:4-7 specifically says so, multiple times. The city in Ezekiel 40 to the end is different than the city in Revelation 21 and 22. In Ezekiel it is 18,000 with a temple in the middle. In Revelation it is 12,000 with no temple. Clearly two different places, not allegory clearly they describe two different places. Ezekiel is not describing the ultimate city, as described in Revelation, we are given specific measurements. The anti-Christ will make fire come down from the sky: Revelation 13:13. The real Messiah will spew fire and brimstone from His mouth literally: Revelation 19:21. The Father destroys everything including the sky from the fire of Revelation 20:9. Ignoring these distinctions plays into the hands of the anti-Christ.

If the next pope is a young person, it's likely him. But I think there may be one more before the final one, so this next one is second to last, perhaps. I think the beast gets wounded during ww3, the war itself being a deception by the beast.

"....Then comes the end, when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to God." What kingdom gets delivered up? And the likely response is that Christ is reigning now in the hearts of believers. Referring to passages like "the kingdom of God is within you". Ok, and so that kingdom ends? It gets delivered up and then the real eternal kingdom begins? Yes? Your ok with that, even in that view is a kingdom ending, and another version beginning. But somehow the 1000 years doesn't make sense? It does not make more sense that we all get tried by fire? "on such the second death has no power" is written for a reason. The kingdom gets literally delivered up, destroyed by fire, because the ultimate kingdom is even there now on top of the sky, waiting. And those already risen immortal will be able to survive the fire and enter the city that comes down.

What kingdom gets delivered up?

You have not addressed what I showed concerning Zephaniah. You skip Revelation 20 completely in that last post. And you skirt Zechariah 14:16-19. In the final end there will be no more death, and no remaining non believers.