Jedi4Yahweh

Actually YOU are the one who is making mountains out of molehills by accusing of saying what we have not been saying and perpetuating your lies. Your problem is that you are trying to comment on an issue that you do not fully understand. You misuse terminology such as "mindset." No one is talking about being like Jews and requiring a sign. The point was that Jews are "deed" oriented. In other words the Hebraic mindset does not believe what you say, if your words and actions do not agree. Jews don't care about what you say, they watch your actions to see if your testimony and life agree. That is what James teaches and the book of James is the PERFECT illustration of Hebraic thought patterns. You are the one who is reading into EVERYTHING that is said. You cannot for some reason lose your paranoia. You really need to get a grip on this. Cant make a post without making personal insults can you?

"The Jews require a sign" = Hebraic "The Greeks require wisdom" = Hellenistic What's the problem? If you read into it they are both negative traits that we need to overcome. In other words Jews want proof before believing and Greeks want logic and understand before believing. 1Co 1:22-23 KJV For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: (23) But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; Those are two frequent problems that Paul ran into while preaching to the Jews and Greeks of his day. He is not saying the world is stuck between two thought patterns. Hebraic vs. Hellenistic. If you are a Christian you should follow neither. You should not be like the Jews who seek a sign and see the gospel as a stumbling block and neither should you be like the Greeks who require wisdom and see the gospel as foolishness. Both are bad. I don't see how you guys are building a Psychology off that scripture in which "all" people fall into. Not all Jews require a sign and not all Greeks require logic to believe. You guys are reading way too deep into this and making a mole hill into a mountain.

Amen and Amen. I think the problem is not disagreements but how people handle those disagreements. Some people resort to personal insults and attacks when they disagree with others. Is this the Love of God? In just a last few days I have heard more personal insults and attacks then I think I will ever hear in real life even from non-christians. I have heard Christan's calling other Christians: Heretic Stupid Ignorant Fool Uneducated Serpant Evil et... This has got to stop! This has become a poisonous environment where people are walking away hurting. Soon or later your bound to walk away hurt by some poisonous insult. Its ok to disagree with others but remain in love and respectfully say I disagree and maybe explain why you disagree with out being rude and slinging insults and name calling. I really feel like moderators need to deal with those that sling personal insults. This does not promote a healthy discussion or Christian environment to learning and growing. Actually it works the opposite. God bless,

No intention to offend. Some have asked me where I got the title for this tread and I posted the Song Lyrics from which I pulled this title. God bless,

I agree brother. We are none by our fruit.

Oops sorry you beat me to the draw.

Its been that way since Adam and Eve. Nothing new under the sun!

Lyrics for: AMISH PARADISE Here is a music that goes along with it: http://www.vietfun.com/midi/english/GangstersParadise.mid As I walk through the valley where I harvest my grain I take a look at my wife and realize she's very plain But that's just perfect for an Amish like me You know, I shun fancy things like electricity At 4:30 in the morning I'm milkin' cows Jebediah feeds the chickens and Jacob plows... fool And I've been milkin' and plowin' so long that Even Ezekiel thinks that my mind is gone I'm a man of the land, I'm into discipline Got a Bible in my hand and a beard on my chin But if I finish all of my chores and you finish thine Then tonight we're gonna party like it's 1699 We been spending most our lives Living in an Amish paradise I've churned butter once or twice Living in an Amish paradise It's hard work and sacrifice Living in an Amish paradise We sell quilts at discount price Living in an Amish paradise A local boy kicked me in the butt last week I just smiled at him and turned the other cheek I really don't care, in fact I wish him well 'Cause I'll be laughing my head off when he's burning in hell But I ain't never punched a tourist even if he deserved An Amish with a 'tude? You know that's unheard of I never wear buttons but I got a cool hat And my homies all I agree I look good in black... fool If you come to visit, you'll be bored to tears We haven't even paid the phone bill in 300 years But we ain't really quaint, so please don't point and stare We're just technologically impaired There's no phone, no lights, no motorcar Not a single luxury Like Robinson Caruso It's as primitave as can be We been spending most our lives Living in an Amish paradise We're just plain and simple guys Living in an Amish paradise There's no time for sin and vice Living in an Amish paradise We don't fight, we all play nice Living in an Amish paradise Hitchin' up the buggy, churnin' lots of butter Raised a barn on Monday, soon I'll raise another Think you're really rightous? Think you're pure in heart? Well, I know I'm a million times as humble as thou art I'm the pious guy the little Amlettes wanna be like On my knees day and night scorin' points for the afterlife So don't be vain and don't be whiny Or else, my brother, I might just have to get medieval on your heinie We been spending most our lives Living in an Amish paradise We're all crazy Mennonites Living in an Amish paradise There's no cops or traffic lights Living in an Amish paradise But you'd probably think it bites Living in an Amish paradise

Do you guys have any Pentecost type doctrines or beliefs such as: Speaking and Praying in Unknown Tongues Laying hands on the sick Casting out of demons Prophecy etc...

Here is a brief Minnonite Doctirne statement: Dont know if all Minnonites have the same doctrine. Papasangel look over it and tell me what you think. http://www.anabaptists.org/history/cof-1963.html (Brief Doctrine) http://www.cmcrosedale.org/publications/faith.htm (Confessions of Faith/Detailed Doctrine) God bless,

Do you have a web link to your doctines? I dont care if you post it in here but I think it would be easier to just post a link if you have one, since it is so long. God bless,

Well this Is what I was saying about your original post Hebriac vs. Hellenistic. Good or Bad Thinking is not based on race but rather the individual. God bless,

No... some fruit are bad and some fruit are good. The good fruit are believers. The bad fruit are those that do not believe. "Fruit" refers to the works you do, and the results that they produce. Tell that to Yod he was the one that started comparing fruits to people. I finished his ananlogy by using his analogy.

No... some fruit are bad and some fruit are good. The good fruit are believers. The bad fruit are those that do not believe.

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I will agree with you on that line of thinking. That you need to understand Jewish culture to grasp a better understanding of the Gospels. For one example it would be beneficial to understand Jewish customs and traditions regarding Passover or rules and regs for Sabbaths. This will give you a better insight why Pharisees where so distraught with Jesus when he broke their Sabbath rules. But these insights have nothing to do with Psychology but rather culture. If you would have said the Gentiles and Native Jews have different cultures than I would absolutely agree. God bless,

I thought it was strange that Amish people believe that electricity is evil. I really dont understand that concept of thinking. I can see TV or Radio but not Electricity. LOL How can electricity be an evil? I guess no Amish here to answer? God bless,

What would be the point of the original post but covey that Hellenistic (Gentiles) need to learn to think Hebraic (Jewish). I really don't think neither one of them think any better then the other. They both show qualities and weaknesses. God bless,

Actually it refers to Hebrews and those of the Hebrew Language.

Hi, I don't think Dan Rather was the person sole responsible for this letter. I believe he knew about it but not was not the master mind. I hope in time that we all of those who are responsible for this attempt to undermine our President. God bless, I am sure they are willing to let Buck stop on Dan Rather so the an on going investigation would not continue to reveal the real crooks. I am sure the Dan Rather will be reward for taking the hit.

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