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You can not talk about atonement, unless you understand it in it proper setting. There is only one piece of furniture that you will find in the Holy of Holies. In holy of holies, where is centered the symbolic service of atonement and intercession. It is the foreshadow of our future, Yeshua ministering as our High Priest before the mercy seat. Exodus 25:17 And thou shalt make a mercy seat of pure gold: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof. 18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. 19 And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof 20 And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be. 21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee. 22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel. The ministry of Yeshua before He returns is conducted in the Most Holy Place before the mercy seat. This final ministry forms the connecting link that helps you understand Revelation. The final ministry reveals the relationship between heaven and earthly events in the last days. It can be better understood in the light of the Fall feasts. Through the spiritual feasts that He has prepared for His children, God tells us how He will work out the final details of our salvation. Our God is a merciful, loving, longsuffering God who wishes all His Children to come home. God is the King of Kings and God of all the kingdoms, who has created us for His purpose. Our creator is calling us home. Isaiah 37:16 O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, that dwellest between the cherubims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth. Ezekiel saw the throne of God and described it this way. Ezekiel 10:1Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne. This was where the ark of the covenant that housed the tables of stone, upon which God Himself had inscribed the Ten Commandments is found in the heavenly sanctuary. You may have heard it called the ark of God's testament, or the ark of the covenant.

The day will come when Yeshua will not longer offer salvation. 2 Peter 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Heb 9:26-28 but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself..was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. "For the law having a shadow of good thing to come and not the very image of the things, can never ....make the comers there unto perfect." Heb 10:1 "...because that the worshipers once purged should have no more conscience of sins" Heb 10:2 The work of the High Priest (Yeshua) is on the perfecting of the saints to sin no more, to be in perfect harmony with the will and word of God. "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified....Now where remission of these is, there is not more offering for sin" Heb 10:14, 18 So when the Yom Kippur is over in heaven there is no more offering for sin, judgment comes (the plagues), and the end of the world. Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times 1 Corinthians 1:10 I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Yeshua Messiah, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. with God through Yeshua Messiah, our Lord.

This work is His, for by Himself he will purge our sins, by the work of the Holy Spirit, they shall be cleansed out of our nature, out of our hearts, and out of our lives. Hebrews 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Messiah, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge you from dead works to serve the living God? Heb 10:1-2"...no more conscience of sins." We know that this has yet to occur for we are all still very conscience of our sins and sinfulness.

Now knowing the judgement of the Lord has an appointed time, called the Yom Kippur, it is important to learn more about this appointed time and what to expect. I want you to understand that when the Lord comes to His temple it will be fast, suddenly. For those that are prepared for it , this will be a time of great rejoicing, for those who are unprepared it will be the judgement that they so feared. 2 Chronicles 29:36 And Hezekiah rejoiced, and all the people, that God had prepared the people: for the thing was done suddenly. Psalm 64:1 Hear my voice, O God, in my prayer: preserve my life from fear of the enemy. 2 Hide me from the secret counsel of the wicked; from the insurrection of the workers of iniquity: 3 Who whet their tongue like a sword, and bend their bows to shoot their arrows, even bitter words: 4 That they may shoot in secret at the perfect: suddenly do they shoot at him, and fear not.5 They encourage themselves in an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them? 6 They search out iniquities; they accomplish a diligent search: both the inward thought of every one of them, and the heart, is deep. 7 But God shall shoot at them with an arrow; suddenly shall they be wounded. 8 So they shall make their own tongue to fall upon themselves: all that see them shall flee away. 9 And all men shall fear, and shall declare the work of God; for they shall wisely consider of his doing. 10 The righteous shall be glad in the LORD, and shall trust in him; and all the upright in heart shall glory. Think about it, if God suddenly came to your mind, and all the secret things are revealed in their true light, how would you feel, what you do and how would you respond to such an event. Ecclesiastes 9:12 For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them. Proverbs 29:1 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy. Because of hardness of heart, there will be people will not listen to the message that would have prepared them as to what is about to come upon the world, leaving them unprepared for the reality of the event. Isaiah 47:11 Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know. Isaiah 48:3 I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass. Taking down that curtain in your mind, that most people use to mentally separate themselves from God, God suddenly shows up in all His majestic Holiness. Today it is your sins that separate you from God like a curtain. They are what keeps you from seeing God. Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. God will tear down that curtain suddenly in the day that He said He would. Jeremiah 4:20 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment. Mourning for the only son, Yeshua, God

It is in the minds of men that the real battle is fought, and when you only see the manifestations of it, in the action of those around us, you may miss the significance of what is really occurring. It is often the case where you can not see the forest because of the trees. For others it is you can not see the trees for the forest. Either end of the spectrum, it is a real spiritual battle that is taking place now. God

God with a blue eye.... interesting.

This is an interesting statement....

Right now we are looking through the glass darkly and are getting some concepts of what is really being said through these Revelations. The day will come when... When this happens... take a look we are in chapter 11 where it is not prophets anymore but two witnesses... which means that the action is happening before our eyes and we will witness it and explain to others Revelation as the events are fulfilled. We are soon coming to the time when the Feast of Trumpets will sound and the events will happen in their rapid order. It will all make perfect sense then. Frighteningly so.... It will be over within the 3 1/2 years of two witnesses testimony.... Revelation is like Daniel, the books will not be opened until the last days.... so we are now in " go your ways... knowledge will increase... " time.

Is that not why the law exists, to separate the faithful, followers, and obedient children of God from the unbelievers, and evil doers?

When the stage is set and the characters are all in place... the curtain will go up and Revelation will be open for all who will read, can see it, if they do not have their heart hardened because they love things of this world too much to want to hear all man made things are dross.

The Lord is a giver of all good gifts... we just need to ask Him the right things. Many of us do not understand the importance of godly gifts in our lives and how to bless others with the gifts from God. Most of the time I see it as we have never asked God.

Does sanctification have a time and a place in Christian experience like Pentecost to the upper room for the disciples? Sanctification is a process of God

You know that we have symbolism all around us. In the stock market we have bulls and bears. In the political markets we have donkeys and elephants and eagles. Does that change the fact that these symbolisms represent real entities. When I read Revelation and see all this symbolism, I look for what do they represent. If they are political parties, they are beasts. If they are religious entities they are women, whores, and brides. When we are looking at a multitude then they are either like sand of the sea or the sea. If it is a new thought that moves the crowd, then it is considered to be like the wind. So when we look at the mark of the beast, there are three things we can look for, what does it symbolise, what effect will it have on the participants and what is it literally. The mark of the beast is directly involved with buying and selling.... therefore it must be a system that the government can control. There is nothing wrong with thinking that the instrument of control is man made and utilized by the government and deals with buying and selling options. When we look closer into Revelations regarding this marking system that the beast (governement) operates we see that that want absolute servitude, that is why there is no rest. Since God never directly punishes but allows us to suffer the consequences for our actions, I would say that the sores come from some man made polutant, and since it only effects those who have the mark, who is to say that it didn't come from the kernel of a transmitting under the skin computer. One thing is for sure, God is not impressed with this "worship beast or image" as it is in direct violation of His commandment that He is the only one to be worshipped. Worship of God or not seems to be at the heart of this mark issue. Ezekiel talks about marking them that cry and sign about the abominations in the last days. Daniel takes about the abominations that effect the daily sacrifices in the last days... somehow this all ties togather.

You would have to meet the Holy One of Israel, and there is a verse in the Bible Rev 3:20 which you can claim as a promise. God said that if you even close it would be better for you.... Truly the only one who can answer your questions is the author himself. You need to make arrangements to meet the real God. Will the real God stand up? I took God to task, I challenged Him to come into my life. It was an all or nothing deal. I promised God that I would search the Bible looking for all those in the Bible discribe what it was like to meet with Him, and look for everything that discribed what it would take to meet God. I searched for everyone's reaction when they encountered God and how did they feel, what did they experience, and what can I expect if God came into my life. Then one day while I was studying, God said that I was ready and to start repenting, while my short list soon ran out and I could not think of any, and I asked God to open up my Book of Life and show me what is in it. God did. I never knew what sin was, the depth or the height, and the incredible width..... so much so I never thought there would be an end to all my sins. If any sin was something I didn't think was so terrible, God would show me the future and the affect it would have not only on my life but those around me until I saw the fruit of this evil sin. Then I would understand and abhor it. I truly repented of all the sins shown me. Then after all my sins were forgiven God came and we did have a one on one sit down talk. I never knew what Holy was until He came. Holy was just a word posted on doors, books, churches and such. But now I know it is the best word to describe the very presence of the Lord. It is His essence. We talked about many things and I know that Yeshua is the Holy One of Isreal, the Father, in the flesh the Son who died for my sins, and the Holy Spirit. I can not explain it. I just know it. That is the difference between theology and reality. If you are hear to argue theology, then you are really not interested in finding out the truth. If you are truly interested in the truth. Then go to the source. Meet with God Himself.... claim His promise to meet with you. Prepare yourself to meet the Holy One of Israel. God is Real.

Now the Bride must present herself spotless before the groom.... and that is no organization system that I know of... it is however individuals that do have a right relationship with the Lord. 1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. 1 Kings 8:61 Let your heart therefore be perfect with the LORD our God, to walk in his statutes, and to keep his commandments, as at this day. Psalm 18:30 As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the LORD is tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him. Psalm 18:32 It is God that girdeth me with strength, and maketh my way perfect. Psalm 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. Psalm 37:37 Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace. Psalm 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined. Psalm 101:2 I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way. O when wilt thou come unto me? I will walk within my house with a perfect heart. Psalm 119:96 I have seen an end of all perfection: but thy commandment is exceeding broad. Proverbs 4:18 But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day. Proverbs 11:5 The righteousness of the perfect shall direct his way: but the wicked shall fall by his own wickedness.

I think that we are not to look at our own misfortunes but to continually look out for and pray for those around us, no matter what circumstances we find ourselves in. Job was restored to twice what he had before when he prayed for his friends, but not before he quit throwing dirt on his own head and woe begoning his fate.

Lord, you have brought Sam68 here to this forum. If we can be of any help in bring Sam68 to you, bless us with the words that will touch his heart, bless us with the kindness and understanding that we need to be good witnesses to your spirit and word. Lord, we ask you to continue to move upon Sam68's heart and give him the desire to know the true God. Lord, may your will be done and may your kingdom come to Sam68's life. We ask all this in Yeshua's name. Amen.

The first marriage was at the foot of Mt Sinai, where the Lord took to wife Israel, but the second marriage, or re-marriage hasn

And that is where the grace of God comes in, dusting you off, picking you up so that you can again walk in the will of the Lord. By the Grace of God you will get better and better at it. You never know you may even be considered one of the elect, pure virgin material. Perfect in Christ.... We all know that is a miracle that only God can do in us by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Every step we take in the way is by the grace of God. The two of you are looking at the two sides of the same coin. One sees themselves walking in the grace and the other sees the need to have grace the whole way.

I am here too.

Let's get back to the mark of the beast..... Is the mark visible to the eye or is it only something the angels can see like the example in Ezekiel? Is the mark of the beast similar to the mark that God gives His people when God seals them ? When we see examples of the chips under the skin and they are pointed to as markers for the beast system, can they be identifiers of the worshippers of the beast?