Karen C.

Encourage your son to allow the Holy Spirit to reveal the source of torment. Address the issue the Holy Spirit reveals to him by either forgiving someone, submitting an emotional wound to God, and unresolved guilt. I hope I am not being to personal but is there a father issue?? Emotional trauma is a #1 cause of panic attacks. Blessings, Karen BTW~I use to suffer panic attacks for years... Jesus set me free too!!

Awesome~~Last week I ministered to a Lady from a church I had spoke at. She had a similar case. The Lord had revealed that there was unresolved issues (traumas) and unforgiveness in her life that had opened the door for this torment. When she addressed these issues she was set free... God's Word is still doing what it says it will do... SET THE CAPTIVES FREE!!

Whatever... :whistling:You obviously did not read where I had wrote on what AUTHORITY I used the AG positional paper.. Did you??

Whatever... :whistling:You obviously did not read where I had wrote on what AUTHORITY I used the AG positional paper.. Did you??

That's all conjecture. Where is the Scriptural support for the argument that the intent was to eventually train women to teach? Isn't that the whole point of coming into the body of Christ. GO INTO ALL THE WORLD...??? teaching and making disciples. Sound familiar?

So you negate scripture because of culture. Where do you stop then???? Not negating scripture..

How about lets back up a few verses and address the whole of what Paul was trying to say. 8 I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing. 9 I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. 11 A woman shouldlearn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. This is obviously a gathering experince Paul is referring to. So men according to vs 8 you should be lifting HOLY hands in prayer.. w/o anger or disputing.. Do I hear any AMENS!! According to vs 9 there is no need to wear expensive clothes or over do the hair... how many we have here fall in this catagory??? According to vs 11 the learning of the woman should be done in quietness.. Don't overthrow what is being taught. I guess she was unable to shout out her opinion in the middle of service.. ... Usurping authority. If I come out from my denominations held positions and teach doctrine contrary to what held as fundamental truths, then I am treading on dangerous ground... Untill then I am accountable(responsible) to teach what I have been taught by men... I Just would like each to evaluate the whole of the scripture and take into consideration the cultural context of the times. These people were your un churched folks. I am sure they were a little heathen and without any manners.. (seen any of those lately??) Trying to get them through the BASIC teachings required some strict guidelines. After the LEARNING process has been accomplished then those who are called move into the area of calling... teachers, pastors, evangelists, prophet...etc.

WOW~I heard someone else speaking about this last night.. We need to watch all avenues of attack.. devil is busy cuz he knows his time is short...

I served Army 78-90.. Six active the rest reserves.. Engineers.. Have a nephew in Iraq.. he was getting ready to retire and voluntered to make a tour.. Lord watch over our families and all those in combat zones.

I would like to see this make some rounds... Too good to let it fall by the wayside..

These people have no idea the price they are gonna pay for falling into this deception. I truly beleive we have pierced thru the veil into the darkness and we are going to see more demonic manifestations like never before.. except pre-flood. Gen 6... 5 The Lord saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain. We seem to think that God was only suggesting we steer clear of tampering in the "other god" spirit realm... Because it is the same withcraft that was so destructive to the Israelites that this is representing.. Look at our warning from Jesus.. 36

Chruch we need to be aware of all the tactics the devil is using to appeal and lead people to their destruction. I have always said that the end times has a relavance to the times of Noah. That being a spiritual door was opened for the demonic to bring such evil that God used the flood to clease the world. We are facing the same time and event.. except this cleansing will be by FIRE.. It is coming soon... We need to be about our Fathers business.. This story only confirms what the Lord has been telling me the last few years what was coming.. By Berit Kjos February 25, 2007 RaidersNewsNetwork.com "'As above, so below!' The Emerald Tablet, circa 3000 BC."[1] Introductory page of The Secret. "This phrase [above] ... embraces the entire system of traditional and modern magic which was inscribed upon the tablet in cryptic wording by Hermes Trismegistus. The significance of this phrase is that it is believed to hold the key to all mysteries. All systems of magic are claimed to function by this formula. 'That which is above is the same as that which is below.'"[2] "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ." Colossians 2:8 Cheered by Oprah Winfrey and Larry King, an enticing little book and corresponding DVD have stirred widespread enthusiasm. "It's making headlines around the world," announced Oprah's website, "and buzz just keeps building. Some say it's the secret to creating the life you truly want

My thoughts are that it is another demonic ruse to discredit the foundational principle of Christianity, the resurrection. Of how easy it will be to buy into this lie for those who have little or no knowledge of Jesus.. I am not presenting this as anything in the least that can be found factual... Just as info on what is going on out there in the world to discredit our LORD.. we should all the more be out speading the Gospel as time is truly getting short.. Blessings, karen

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My SIN. . . That's what makes me bored with hearing the Word of God preached. Satan sits on my shoulder and tells me, "You've heard all this before." "You've been saved for 30 years, what else could this guy teach you?" When I start to listen to him that is when I start getting bored, it has nothing to do with what the Pastor is doing, or saying, it's ME! It is the Pastor's responsibility to bring God's word to me. It's MY respoinsibility to prepare my heart for what The Lord wishes me to learn from that. The responsibility is mine, all mine. He's not up there to entertain me! He does not preach from a stage, he preaches from a pulpit. I do not go to the Theater to hear The Gosple, I go to Church. My tithe is not the price of admission. The apostles didn't have anecdotes or funny stories to tell, they didn't use power point, they certainly didn't spend entire sermons trying to explain what Jeasus meant. They simply preached the Word. The Truth. This is church: Acts 2:41-47 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day. 42 They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43 Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. 46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved. AMEN!!

AMEN Sister~That is where they confuse being Baptised unto salvation.. (I call it Johns Baptism for the remission of sin) and the baptism with the Holy Spirit with POWER to witness and go out and do the "Great Commission" with signs following... There is a difference.. Blessings Karen

You can plead them all if you need to... Blessings bro... Karen

You did not go there!!! Need a V8 moment I would think!?!? Rev Karen C

Thanks.. I was feeling a little wore down here.. I really would like everyone to grasp the spiritual realities.. then the Church can step UP to the higher calling we should all be walking in... That would be awesome wouldn't it?? Blessings, Karen

We are on the subject of demons... ?!?!? That is okay.. I am not here to convice you of anything. You can ignore my posts and move on if you like. I wont be offended..

Pro 26:2 As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come. I don't know where you are getting the idea that I just go pull people out of the ditch and start casting out devils??? These are people who confess Jesus as Lord and WANT help!! What is so hard to get here? ???? Who said Paul was never delivered?? The Word only says the Lord answered him with "my Grace is sufficient". It could be possible the Lord told Paul to quit asking God to do it for him that Jesus paid for all healing and to take hold of the provision...?? Could it be.. I haven't seen too many modern day Pauls. How many do you know that have had OBE to heaven? Anyhow, the disease area that I have been addressing is the 70% that is stress related. Please refer back to what I have written in previous posts.. This is an area that we do have responsibility by "taking every thought captive, do not worry. These are not suggestions that are directives to keep us safe from SICKNESS. Dis-ease is a curse. Read about blessings and curses in Deut 28. They are still in effect.. they are in operation by CHOICES... Pro 26:2 As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come. And yes I work with those coming out of drugs and other areas of strongholds. Most of them come from a church background. Most of the others are those who are in Church and are on RX for depression and other sickness that they want healed of. There are spiritual blocks to healing... The Bible is full of them.. Blessings, Karen Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven. Mat 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread. Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but *deliver us from *evil (strongs 4190): For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. Jesus gave us a prayer guideline. The Deliverance is ours for the asking. By responding to the Holy Spirits process of sanctification. The EVIL is not referring specifically to satan but to evil spirits that we tend to compromise with. Jesus seems to inform us we need deliverance as Children of God. He brought deliverance to those inside the Synagogue and those outside who most knew to be demon possessed. The same is needed today. Mar 7:14 And when he had called all the people [unto him], he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one [of you], and understand: Mar 7:15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. Mar 7:16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. Mar 7:17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable. Mar 7:18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, [it] cannot defile him; Mar 7:19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? Mar 7:20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that *defileth (strongs 2840) the man. Mar 7:21 For from within (our spirit ), out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Mar 7:22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: Mar 7:23 All these evil (strongs 4190 ) things come from within, and defile (make unclean) the man. Jam 3:14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. Jam 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but [is] earthly, sensual, *devilish (strongs 1141). Jam 3:16 For where envying and strife [is], there [is] confusion and every evil work. Strongs 2840 Defiled 1) to make common a) to make (Levitically) unclean, render unhallowed, defile, profane b) to declare or count unclean 4190 Evil (spirits) 1) full of labours, annoyances, hardships a) pressed and harassed by labours b) bringing toils, annoyances, perils; of a time full of peril to Christian faith and steadfastness; causing pain and trouble 2) bad, of a bad nature or condition a) in a physical sense: diseased or blind b) in an ethical sense: evil wicked, bad 4506 Deliver 1) to draw to one's self, to rescue, to deliver 2) the deliverer 169 unclean 1) not cleansed, unclean a) in a ceremonial sense: that which must be abstained from according to the levitical law b) in a moral sense: unclean in thought and life 1141 devilish 1) resembling or proceeding from an evil spirit, demon-like You can also do a word search on Strongs 1142 and see how these all tie in together.

I appreciate your prayer Bro~My point that you are missing is the ministry I do as we go through the cleansing and addressing strongholds there is a need for the specific demons to be cast out. Most of those I minister to come from "been there done that church" and can't seem to get any victory. THOSE are the ones I am sent to. These are the ones the Church or programs can't seem to help... Where do you get I think I am the one casting them out!! I am not stupid.. I am not being prideful about what I do, just a little exasperated at the opinionated responces that are injected here without knowledge of all areas of deliverance. I got so tired of watching people who truly wanted to change fall through the cracks and fall away because no one knew how to help them get deliverance... Praise the Lord you are involved in the ministy.. Believe me I started where you are at now.. You keep up your end in your callin Bro and I will do mine.. Blessings, Karen

MOst Christians dont believe in hell or the devil? Are you ok? Most christians I've known do believe in a devil and a hell, the ones that dont are like mormons, and JWs not christians. And as far as demonology, it's not good, it's demonic, and can open up doors you dont want to open. Satan is a deciever, dont fall in his traps. We are not to be in ignorace of satans tactics! Talking about them only EXPOSES them. Who do you think wants us ignorant about them?? The subject and related matters of demonology has been objected that "we should focus our attention on Christ not on the Devil." Yet, among things, such an objection would tend to perpetuate the somewhat obscure understanding of important passages of Scripture. Furthermore, if our victory as believers is to be complete, it is incumbent upon us to study all of the Scriptures, for as in any military engagement knowledge of the enemy is necessary. That we will be engaged with this enemy is of a certainty pointed out most graphically by the Apostle Paul in Ephesians 6:10-18. All of Scripture is given to us by the love and wisdom of God and it must be of essential value and importance to accurately understand it if we are to know the full counsel of His revelation. Blessings, Karen I agree with you fully on this matter, We are not to be ignorant of satans tatics, And expose them, I never said that it is a subject that no one should talk about, I just view demonology, as lies from Satan, The number one reason is that alot of studies in demonology contradicts scripture, and has no biblical base, Now, God gave us a sword, and also gives us the gifts we need to trample satan, and his works, Now, as far as demonology, would it be better to fight a demon with the power of the Lord, and the sword of the Lord? Or the study of demons, and stray away from a biblical bases? We will be enguaged in spiritual warfare, and the Lord provides us with all we need for it, to know the tactics of the enemy, God even gives us a spiritual gift, "discerning of Spirits" to know the attack and plans of the enemy, But the most important thing is that we focus on what is true, and keep our focus on Jesus Christ, Yes expose demonic presences, and expose wickedness, But it is utterly important that you stand having your feet shod in the Gosple, Demonology takes the focus away from God, and it is a trap of the enemy, God reveals truth, and anything not founded in God is not truth. You are not in deliverance ministry.. And you are off base Brother.. You need to read the entire thread. I am not going to repeat all the scripture and confirmation... Blessings, Karen

To those who want scripture; does Mark 16:14-18 ring a bell??? Mark 16:14 Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen. 15 He said to them,