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Without one pre-trib rapture verse that has the rapture before the tribulation. Then has the gall to quote post trib verses and then CLAIM they are pre-trib, for the disconnect! 1 Thess is clearly post trib and at the last day. We shall NOT prevent them which are asleep. And we all know that the resurrection is at the last day, not seven years before the last day. ******* Even Jesus shows resurrection first and then the rapture with it in John eleven :25,26. ******* PeterAV Every word of God is pure:

Escape means "pre-trib rapture" to the folk that do not believe their bibles and love to opinionate over it and change it. escape in the bible is to flee, run for your lives. Genesis nineteen :17 - 20. Please note that Jesus does not come until the sun moon and stars signs happen first, which is clearly after the tribulation.

Meaning: I don't really believe God's word, so I will trump God's word with my own opinion as the final arbiture in this matter! Please note how no pre-tribber never gives us this pre-trib rapture verse, that actually has the rapture before the tribulation. 2 Thess two:1 clearly shows them at the same time; namely that day!

Allah was only a name given to an ancient moon idol that was found. [chick] Jesus is the one truth living creator, Saviour,and mighty God. [Isaiah forty three:10,11] Plus : I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. John eight :24 ******* PeterAV Every word of God is pure:

100% of all scripture is clearly post trib. There is no pre-trib rapture verse. ******* The righteous shall never be removed, but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth. PeterAV Every word of God is pure:

Boycott all these terrible taxes etc and government indiscretions on the 15th. Never spend a penny on the 15th. Buy your gas the day before or after. Send a message that we don't agree with unfair arbitrary taxes. http://www.taxfree15.com/PrepareYourselves.aspx

The Evolutionists were the ones to come up with using the term Dinosaurs for all the larger animals that were close to extinction.

Dinosaurs were always called Dragons etc. before the 1800's. Why, there are pictures of army men with those supposed ancient huge flying dino/birds from the American Civil War.

A couple of interesting quotes, for sure. Namely: ******* There is a difference between the condition of Salvation and the ground of Salvation. Faith is one of the conditions as also is the moving of the Holy Ghost upon the heart of the individual, the pure word. The pure word preached. But the ground of our salvation is completely swallowed up in the love of God. His love is the ground of our salvation. Our faith is only a condition that needs to be met. PeterAV Every word of God is pure:

Jesus loves us. God the Father loves us. The blessed Holy Ghost loves us. They work as one.

******* Great article there Will. In short,folks,Look up the verses in the Holy Bible and compare your own translation and see the diference for your selves. Here is the list that Will worked at; Corrupted in this version and others, Psalm 78:36 NASB John 7:8 NASB Micah 5:2 NIV Luke 2:22 NASB 2 Sam 14:14 NASB 2 Peter 3:12 NASB 1 John 5:19 NASB John 12:31 NASB John 14:30 NASB John 16:11 NASB 1 Cor 8:4 NASB Hosea 11:12 NASB Dan 9:26 NASB The list is much larger than this,but this is just from this one article of Will's.You owe it to the promotion of the truth and the love of the truth to investigate without gander,but genuine concern for the truth. There is only one true Holy Bible. AV 1611,KJB,AV,Originally known only as the "Holy Bible" until 1920. PeterAV Thy word is truth, therefore thy servant loveth it.Psalm 119:140

I don't know of any that think that the scriptures are only in the Holy Bible AKA AV.They all agree that the modern versions have legitimate verses in their covers.But they are not the pure words of God.Only the AV is that.Jerimiah said that God's word was more important than his necessary food.Is this idol worship?I trow not. David meditates on it all the day,how more zealous can one get to the word of God.Is it an idol?I trow not. Face it Ovedya,If God exalts his word above his name,who am I to do any less? I burned By fake Bibles that had poison in them.They were not all the truth.I did it once.I still use many Bibles,but I only believe and live by one. Since when is it unhealthy to believe God's word and believe what God said in his word about his word?Exactly.Does not the word say "I hate every false way?"The modernversions are exactly that. They show errors on almost every page.The sources that they come from, came from heretics,like Marcon,Origen,Eusebius,Jerome,Westcott and Hort. That is a big ouchy. Those that don't burn their Bibles is fine with me.Those that do not use the KJB is fine with me.It is a free world out there.But I will show the corruptions that are in those versions that are touted today as the new discoveries,and updates. There is only one Bible.The others are fakers. Matthew 1:25,1 Timothy 3:16,1 Corinthians 2:17,check and compare and see the truth.This is only a couple out of hundreds. Next time you falsely accuse others of worship and froth,it is only that they consider the Holy Bible to be the Holy Bible.Most others have no Bible that is considered errorless,and they contradict each othere in so many places. You, however,have errors in yours.I thought that God's word is to be without error.So why in the world do you defend the fakers? I am,of course,taking for granted,that if you are not posting in favour of the Holy Bible that you favour more than one version.Or at least "PREFER" one version over others at various places. Thy word is very pure,therefore thy servant loveth it.Psalm 119:140 Holy Bible There is only one.

******* And what is God's word? w as in the words of God. Not W as in the Word of God who is Jesus. PeterAV

Quote =moderator Would you burn a Bible? Would you tear out pages from a Bible? Why or why not? Peter AV. This is for you. Please answer. Quote That is a question out of the blue.Have you been doing some looking? No I do not Burn the Holy Bible. But I have burned many books that claimed to be bibles and were found out to be charlitans,fakers heretical and just full of plain error on every page.Some of them are doctrinal. After learning about the garbage in the new versions,my wife and I pulled an Acts 19:19 and we burned all our fake Bibles,such as the niv,NASB,EB,etc.,including our NKJV wedding Bible.Fifty pages at a time were placed in the fire,as we repented of allowing garbage to be in our lives.We wanted the truth not man's opinions,so the choice was quik and easy.It was a happy day when the LORD shewed us the truth. I would that all fake Bibles would be burned, in church after church,but people have their free choice to do with their lives as they see fit.Plus I am not being dogmatic about it,but simply recomending that you only trust one book,namely,the Holy Bible,now renamed the AV or KJB. With the KJB one has the 99% majority of manuscripts to back it up,while the new versions are choosing the family tree that has only 45 and namely 2,the Vaticanus and the Sinaiticus.These two manuscripts are of the worst kind,they abound in errors,so much so,that one is hard pressed to find any two verses in a row that are the same.But if you go to the manuscripts that the AV was made from ;those 99% of manuscripts,well they virtually agree throughout,and throughout time. Can't say that for ther modern versions manuscripts nor the modern versions themselves. So,no,I do not burn the Holy Bible,but I do burn fakers.Written by heretics such as Westcott and Hort.And Origen and Jerome and Eusebius.Amongst others. They deminish the deity of our LORD countless times,ommit scriptures,twist words,change doctrine at will.Despicable work.Satan is alive and interested in the words of God. I answered your question,now may you show the same courtesy and answer mine? Do you believe that the Holy Bible is infalible,without error and has a name? PeterAV

******* And the translation you have now are all corrupted including the NIV and the NKJV. Whenever one has More than one authority you know that they have a trick to play. They play one against the other and then they decide for themselves which one they "PREFER".They are in the place of God,arbitrating against the very words of God. Both your bibles contradict each other and the Holy Bible in so many places it is rediculous. Why the NKJV has made some 100,000 changes to the perfect text.Many are of the doctrinal nature to boot. The NIV [the Bart Simpson Bible] has some 695 erroneous readings that are corrupted,including 17 whole verses that are missing and many others earmarked as ingenuine. Simply dispicable behaviour. Peter

O but he has,and you are tuning him out,because of your own opinions.You are the final authority,not God's word.This is what Satan sucked EVE into doing. You can be your own aithority and arbitrate against the very words of God,and add and take away and deminnish them. Never stand in judgement against the very words of God but allow God's Holy words to have that function.

******* Sorry there Mr.And Mrs.Mike Irish,but that is not the truth at all,but only your opinion.This is not a game of "I PREFER". I brought up the 1611 version on the internet for my six year old son to read and he did fine.All I had to do is shew him that "U" is a "V" and a V is a U. And it came out word perfect. Anybody can read it. http://dewey.library.upenn.edu/sceti/print...&PagePosition=1 Talking about word perfect,one can read the 1611 and the 2005 edition of the 1611 and they come out word for word.All that is diferent is the spellings and fonts and typographical errors that all have since been corrected. Plus Will just shewed you that the extra books were not part of the cannon of scriptures like the corrupted Alexandrian manuscripts have ;that the new versions use for their manuscripts. King James never authorized it.He just gave them permission to do the work. It was simply called the Holy Bible for a great many years.It was a general accepted FACT that the Bible was "THE AUTHORIZED VERSION" for the English speaking world and then bore that name.It was not until the begining of the onslaught of fake usurping quasi pumped out versions by heretics like Westcott and Hort,that the AV finally got the name of KJV.But I still call it by the name of The Holy Bible There is only one. PeterAV

******* Those thousands of new words has to do with "Copyright laws". You are completely correct in saying "little comparative study",for I have found many more over the years.Many of the changes that may appear sincere or non-threatening at first,are full of doctrinal error. PeterAV

******* ?Does this mean that you have no Bible?Just opinions? There is only one Bible.

******* Is this fact or just your opinion? The facts bear it out that the NKJV is not as accurate as many make it out to be. To start with they DO have the Satanic LOGO on the cover,namely the disguised 666. I have found that the NKJV translators lied to the publick,saying that they followed just the Textus Receptus just like the AV did. But when you check out the key verses for the corrupted versions,you will find lots of agreement with the NKJV.They literally used the TR,but then inserted corrupted Alexandrian readings itno the text. The NKJV crew were put up on charges by the securities commission,and I do believe that there was the sum of $400,000.mentioned. Since when did they improve the understanding of the text in 2 Corinthians 2:17? Why hide the fact that they corrupted the words?Very revealing if you ask me. Fealing a little guilty there are we? Sure the NKJV is a terific translation,if you go for corruption,but not quite as much as the NIV or the NASB,etc.

******* Now that IS stretching things a bit. All you offered was opinions.This is not a game of "I PREFER" There can only be one Holy Bible.For the English speaking peoples it is the AV. You don't go running to an unbeliever to verify your stand.Such as Strong.He introduces Pagan defenitions to Biblical verses and words. The Bible itself will interpret itself. If you compare scripture with scripture,you can find much more than just a man's definition in the scriptures,but you can find God's definition in the scriptures. If you go to Genesis you will see the first mention of "strong",namely "stronger". Here stronger has to do with a Godly man AND his deceitfulness.So God says it can cover both the good and the Bad.Now that is much more accurate than the Strong's concordance. Plus tyranical may include someone that is strong,but a strong man does not NEED to be tyranical. A strong man does not need to be violent to retain riches.He can just go to the bank and be a strong citizen and save his money and invest it. The modern versions have gone overboard here and have all but deleted the real truth of the verse;for it is not the other verses that determine the meaning,but the very verses that determines the meaning.Take a look at THE verse. It is showing the contrast between the ways of a woman and the ways of a man. The best is the combination of the two.The woman gains strength by the man,and the man is tempered with grace from the woman. Each atribute is good in its own way,but a combination is the perfectness of temperment.right? It is imparative that man challenges himself to cultivate grace,tenderness and all that is charming.This is not done with mimicry,but with the aid of the Saviour,the word and the guidance of the Holy Ghost.This takes purposeful study and honesty,including a lifestyle of repentance. On the flip side,how uncool it would be to see a woman vying for power and not living a life of a gracious vesel of honour. J.Parker once said; "It is not good for the man to be alone,for he is without grace;it is not good for the woman to be alone,for she is without strength;when men and women stand to one another in the right christian relation they will complete one another,and together constitute the Devine idea of humanity." PeterAV