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Yeah, I agree. The US government has become a joke. I believe it's broken beyond repair, at least until a total collapse comes so it could be re-built properly, even though I don't expect that to happen either, because it will join the global government beast. But we must remember Daniel warned about the fourth and final beast, which was Rome, devouring the entire earth, treading it down and breaking it in pieces. But in the end, all nations will be gathered against Israel. Therefore, if we start expecting Israel to fulfill this prophecy, we are travelling on a dead end road. All roads lead to Rome. Cheers

Careful, you're getting dangerously close to getting a hug. I even thought about taking back what I said, and saying, Climate change is really wonderful after all. But then I woke up. Cheerio

And Babylon and Rome both destroyed the Temple/rebuilt Temple and stole the Temple vessels and artifacts, most of which were made of gold and silver. cheers

MG, you still love me, don't ya?

Lol. You're workin' me, bro. But fish ain't bitin.'

Good luck with that one. Cheers

Lol - She knows she really loves me, don't ya MG?

What verse or verses are giving you trouble? Cheers

The USA will fall before the beast rises. Obama made a very strange statement a few months ago, and it seemed that no one could make heads or tails out of what he meant by it. He said that global warming has become our greatest threat to our national security. What on earth could he possibly mean? It sounds ridiculous on its face, but if he is using buzz words (code). It think we may be able to read between the lines. I'll repeat Obama's ridiculous statement: He said, "Global warming has become our greatest threat to our national security." Did you catch it? What on earth could he possibly mean? Deciphering his buzz-words, I believe they are using this global warming scam to usher in their global government, thus bringing an end to sovereign nation states. They may also be purposely manipulating our weather, through HAARP, which was developed to change the atmospheric pressure. HAARP can create droughts, tornado's, floods and even change jet streams. The government is creating chemtrails in the sky, as well as producing GMO foods, which do not re-produce any seeds. I have a hunch that famines will be coming very soon. America is on her last leg IMHO. Cheers

It appears the woman (prostitute) rides the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns. She, the woman, is arrayed in purple and scarlet and is adorned with gold and precious stones, and she had a golden cup.... I believe the woman who rides the beast is none other than the Vatican, and the beast she will ride is the UN. https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVvyUda9WgwwAJnIPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=Woman+Arrayed+In+Purple+and+Scarlet+Vatican&fr=yhs-att-att_001&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs-att_001 Cheers

Lol - You're always changing your position, brother. But at least you're searching. The GT is after the AoD. Read Matt. 24:15, then 24:21-22. Hold that thought on the rest. I'm working on Rev. 6 again, as I finally found my missing pieces. I'll let you know when I finish my breakdown. Cheers

I've heard that also, but I'm not energized enough to go verify it for myself.

Not a scripture, but a sign in the heavens. It will appear in Sept. 2017. That book is now out of date. The second edition came out almost a year ago. I added another long chapter about the fall feasts, and several other changes to make things more clear. I wasn't rushed by my editor this time. I didn't know you left Georgia. Send me a PM with your new address in Buffalo and I'll send you the new copy. Cheers

Well, the 42 months are a very specific time in the great tribulation, which is when the beast will reign on the earth. But the birth pains will still need to happen prior to that time, as well as rebuilding the Temple. Those that believe the first 3.5 years have already been fulfilled claim that it started at Christ' baptism. But since when has a baptism been considered an anointing? It seems to me that He should have been anointed as King when He rode into Jerusalem on a colt, but they rejected Him and He was cut off shortly after. Cheers

Hey Spockster, I don't see much of a chance of having only the second half or 3.5 years to go starting from the AoD, but I suppose there is a small outside chance. Either way, we will know soon enough. If we have 7 years, I would expect to see the covenant confirmed sometime near the fall feasts. But if it is only 3.5 years, then we should expect the AoD during the spring feasts. Just something to tuck away for later. Cheers

Right on, M&M! The only thing that divides the 70th seven is the abomination of desolation. Israel rejected Messiah, but will later accept one who will come in His own name (Obama-nation) comes immediately to mind, especially since he is now setting his sights on ruling the world. Better start getting ready for the lawless one. And don't look now, but it looks like they may be soon needing some sort of peace settlement in the Middle East. And then they will also need to rebuild the Temple so Obama can do his dirty deed. Cheers

LOL - Spockster, You look so different with a mod hat on! Good advice, too.

I love the way teachers do math! I get confused when folks try to add decimals 7+62.5+.5=70. Oops, it's been so long since I went to school, I hope I said that right.

I never claimed you said that Christ' blood was an abomination. I merely said it was not, because that's usually where these discussions lead. I apologize if my words offended you in any way. I meant no offense by them. Okay, so you don't believe the end time prophecies will be fulfilled in the future, so I won't waste anymore time comparing your apples to my oranges. But I will just say, I'd be very careful with what people like Matthew Henry teach, or anyone else for that matter. Christ warned us to not let (anyone) deceive us. He said His sheep know His voice (HIs Word). So just know that when we give ear to other voices, we're setting ourselves up to be deceived. That's all I will add, other than I hope the Lord blesses you in your search for truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Good day! Cheers

Hi Ezra, I agree there is only one resurrection/rapture. This is the first resurrection, but it includes more than the resurrected dead and those who are raptured. The first resurrection also includes the martyrs killed before the second coming, for they will be among the saints that will be returning with Him (Rev. 20:4). God has promised not to avenge their blood until the last martyr is killed (Rev. 6:9-11). The initial rapture will occur in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, but the resurrection itself will extend longer, until the last martyr is killed, as God will wait on them before He judges the nations (1 Pet. 4:17-18, Rev. 6:9-11, 11:18). Then after the millennium (1000 years) will be the resurrection of the unjust at the great white throne judgment. Cheers

Just going back over this, Last Daze, and I probably wasn't clear enough in my last post. I can see where the time of testing or hour of trial would come in between the rapture and Armageddon, and I do agree that it will. But there is no specific duration of time mentioned, and no mention whatsoever of the time of testing or what it's all about. There's just no way to pin it down, is what I'm trying to say... Post-tribbers will say both events occur on the same day; where I believe there will be nine (9) days in between these two events (feast of trumpets to Day of Atonement), aka the days of aw. This allows for the days to be shortened for the sake of the elect, otherwise no flesh would be saved (raptured). In other words, if the elect are not kept from the hour of trial (Rev. 3:10), then there would be no Christians left alive to be raptured. The beast would then overcome all Christians (Rev. 13:7-8). This is why I believe Christ was warning that His followers need to be ready. There's a wedding supper to go to, but many will not be getting in because they have soiled their garments. Many may assume that soiled garments means that they are not true believers, but it may also mean that these believers were not ready or lukewarm, which is still better than being cold or falling away. I believe they are all saved (hot, lukewarm & cold), but they will receive different rewards and/or punishments (see Luke 12:35-48). And according to Paul, some will be saved, yet only as one escaping through the fire (1 Cor. 3:15). Cheers

Christ was cut off after 69 weeks were completed, not in the middle of the 69th week or 3.5 years later. He never made a 7 year covenant with anyone, nor was His sacrifice an abomination. He was rejected by His people and cut off after 69 weeks, but there will still be another imposter coming, confirming a covenant for one week.... John 5:43 I have come in My Father’s name, but you do not receive Me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him. Cheers

Good observation, RW! You have recognized that there is still more to this mystery than most people think, which is also why Paul called it a great mystery. However, you still have some loose connections here. To keep it brief, I'll just point out one or two. The dead are resurrected first, in the first resurrection, aka the resurrection of the just and/or righteous. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 (MEV) For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will not precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we shall be forever with the Lord. It does not necessarily mean the dead will go in the rapture first. The way I understand it is that the dead will be raised from their graves in their incorruptible bodies, and then we who are alive will be changed (incorruptible bodies also) , and we will then be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. We don't see the resurrection because it has already happened by the time they are all standing around the throne. We also do not see the change of the living, because both of these took place previously on the earth. Hope that helps. Cheers

That's one way to interpret it, but I certainly wouldn't try to gauge the time between the rapture and the second coming by it. How long would it take for all nations to move their armies to Jerusalem? Again, we're talking days. Feast of trumpets, Day of Atonement and feast of Tabernacles seem to fit nicely. I fail to see how this relates to the time of testing. Cheers

I guess we're comparing apples and oranges here. I just don't see a test in either of those verses. I see where the first verse above is alluding to the rapture, which could be those who are kept from the hour of testing. But the second one is referring to the judgment of the nations, and all that are gathered will be destroyed. I see no time of testing, only judgment. Oh well, I guess its time to move along. Cheers