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  1. WilliamL

    The Dedication of the Altar in Israel.

    Can you give a summary sketch of why you believe next year?
  2. WilliamL

    Interpret this dream please.

    Zechariah 4:2 And he said to me, “What do you see?” So I said, “I am looking, and there is a lampstand of solid gold with a Bowl on top of it. ... 11 Then I answered and said to him, “What are these two olive trees—at the right of the lampstand and at its left?” ... 14 So he said, “These are the two anointed ones, who stand beside the Lord of the whole earth.” Revelation 11:3 “And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.” 3 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth.
  3. WilliamL

    What is your view of hell?

    Hades (a.k.a Sheol) WAS the abode of all of the souls of the dead, up until the Resurrection of Christ. Up until that time, it included Abraham's bosom, a section of Hades wherein the souls of the righteous Hebrew dead were gathered. Hades NOW is simply the abode of the souls of the unrighteous dead. The righteous dead are now, through the atoning blood of Christ, able to enter into heaven, wherein God dwells, because they are no longer cut off from the Presence because of sin. Hades will be cast into the lake of fire when heaven and earth are destroyed, because there will no longer be any purpose for its existence.
  4. WilliamL

    The Next Event

    Some verses those who believe the Ezekiel war is next need to explain: Ezekiel 38:11 “You will say, ‘I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates’ 15 “Then you will come from your place out of the far north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great company and a mighty army. 39:9 “Then those who dwell in the cities of Israel will go out and set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and bucklers, the bows and arrows, the javelins and spears; and they will make fires with them for seven years. 17 “And as for you, son of man, thus says the Lord GOD, ‘Speak to every sort of bird and to every beast of the field: ... 20 you shall be filled at My table with horses... My take on the timing of the Ezekiel war: The collapse of our complex and fragile global systems during the Great Tribulation will, not too long after, be followed by the megadeath of the 6th trumpet. The ability to sustain complex technology: gone. The ability to manufacture complex weapons and explosives: gone. The ability to refine crude oil into gasoline: gone with the refineries. Which cannot be rebuilt, because most of the techs and engineers with the know-how to do so will be dead, and the complex parts-supply systems will be defunct. The remnant of people left on earth -- both God's and God's foes -- will have gone back to living rural pastoral lives in order to survive. This is why the invading armies of the Ezekiel 38-39 war will be riding on horses and carrying shields, spears, and bows. This is why Israel is living at peace, without walls: a long period of peace; or, to put it another way, exhaustion from war combined with a massive world de-population. Birds don't each motorized vehicles, but they do eat dead horses.
  5. WilliamL

    PRETERISM THE NEW FRONTIER

    That way, even if you don't live in the body to see the time of His Coming, that expectation remains in your spirit that has passed on. So that when "every eye sees Him" at His Coming, including the eyes of the spirits of the dead, those dead will be fully prepared; just as those living at that time need to be. Thus the belief in the Lord's immanent return, taught by the many of the disciples, though based on a misunderstanding, bears fruit.
  6. WilliamL

    The Dedication of the Altar in Israel.

    This is your interpretation. Here is mine: Antiochus Epiphanes (r. 176 - ca. 164 B.C.) was the historical King of the North who brought Temple services to an end, and later caused to “place the abomination of desolation” in 168 B.C. Dan. 11:31 In his case, lawful Temple services were brought to an end years before the final desecration in 168: 2 Macc. 4:23 After a period of three years [of the high priesthood of Jason, who had usurped the high priesthood of the Jewish Temple from his brother, Onias III, by bribing Antiochus]…Menelaus… 24 …secured the high priesthood for himself… 25 [Being a Benjamite,] he… possess[ed] no [lawful] qualifications for the high priesthood… 29 Menelaus left his own brother Lysimachus as deputy in the high priesthood… 32 But Menelaus, thinking he had obtained a suitable opportunity, stole some of the gold vessels of the temple and gave them to [Antiochusʼs deputy] Andronicus… 34 [Then] Menelaus, taking Andronicus aside, urged him to kill [the legitimate Jewish high priest] Onias. Andronicus came to Onias, and resorting to treachery…urged Onias to come out from [his] place of sanctuary; then, with no regard for justice, he immediately put him out of the way. … 39 [Meanwhile,] many acts of sacrilege had been committed in [Jerusalem] by Lysimachus with the connivance of Menelaus… 2 Macc. 5:1 [Not long afterward,] Antiochus made his second invasion of Egypt. Dan. 11:29 At the appointed time he return[ed] and [went] toward the south; but it [was] not like the former time or like the latter. 30 For ships of Kittim [a Roman fleet commanded by Popilius Laenus] c[a]me against him; therefore he [was] grieved, and return[ed] and [was] enrage[d] against the holy covenant, and so acted…and show[ed] regard for those who forsook the holy covenant. 2 Macc. 5:11 … raging inwardly, [Antiochus] left Egypt and took [Jerusalem] by storm. 14 Within a total of three days, 80,000 Jews were destroyed…and as many sold into slavery… 15 Not content with this, Antiochus dared to enter the most holy Temple in the world, guided by Menelaus, who had become a traitor to the laws and to his country. 16 He took the holy vessels with his polluted hands… 1 Macc. 1:54 Now on the 15th day of Chislev in the 145th year [~Dec. 16, 168 B.C.], they erected a desolating sacrilege [likely an idol of Zeus] upon the altar of burnt offering. This era was prophesied in Dan. 8:12-14, and its “pesha/transgression/lawlessness” was to continue “for 2300 days; then the sanctuary [would] be cleansed.” According to the history provided by the Books of the Maccabees, the ultimate overthrow of the Aaronic priesthood by Menelaus lasted from the latter 170s B.C. (no precise dates given, but enough information to make a rough estimate) up to the cleansing of the sanctuary by the Maccabees in 165 B.C. Now, 2300 days = about 6.3 years, a seeming fit for the length of that period, which reasonably could have begun in 171 B.C. The 1290 Days Keeping these things in mind, letʼs go now to the 1290 days of the End Times, which equal 3.53 solar years. ... This above quote comes from the following blog post, which shows that the daily services shall be taken away 1290 days before the placing of the Abomination of Desolation. The following 45 days unto the blessing is, or contains, the Great Tribulation. That is the prophecy of Daniel 12:11-12.
  7. What will have changed is just about everything. The collapse of our complex and fragile global systems during the Great Tribulation will, not too long after, be followed by the megadeath of the 6th trumpet. The ability to sustain complex technology: gone. The ability to manufacture complex weapons and explosives: gone. The ability to refine crude oil into gasoline: gone with the refineries. Which cannot be rebuilt, because most of the techs and engineers with the know-how to do so will be dead, and the complex parts-supply systems will be defunct. The remnant of people left on earth -- both God's and God's foes -- will have gone back to living rural pastoral lives in order to survive. This is why the invading armies of the Ezekiel 38-39 war will be riding on horses and carrying shields, spears, and bows. Birds don't each motorized vehicles, but they do eat dead horses.
  8. WilliamL

    The Dedication of the Altar in Israel.

    They will? What Scriptures say that?
  9. You might try starting here, for a brief outline of the topic:
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    PRETERISM THE NEW FRONTIER

    Not at all. The dead saw Jesus when He descended to Hades for three days. One does not have to have a physical body to see a spiritual body. The only way everyone will be able to see the Lord's Coming will be in spirit, with the vision of the spirit. If this is to be a purely physical in-the-clouds appearance of the Lord, then half of the people in the world would be on the wrong side of the earth to see Him, and "every eye" could not see Him. These topics are covered in some depth in my blogs, particularly these two:
  11. He was So if all men are appointed once to die when will he make that transition? Which heaven was he translated to? I think you are trying to prove too much by the single verse, "it is appointed unto men once to die." I see no reason why God can't make exceptions to this norm if and when He so chooses. Such as with Enoch, for example, about whom much is said in ancient Hebraic records about his heavenly exaltation. This statement by Paul, taken as literally as the one you quote, says just the opposite to it: "We shall not all sleep..." 1 Cor. 15:51
  12. Lack of logic here. Just because some are martyred in the Trib. does not mean that many/most will not be martyred in the Trib, but still go through it. Luke 21:36 “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” In context, "all these things" refer to the events of the Trib., which Jesus says some will escape.
  13. The Most Holy Place: The Eighth-Day Solemn Assembly, Shemini Atzereth Leviticus 23:34 …“The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the Feast of Tabernacles for seven days to the LORD. … 36 …On the eighth day you shall have a holy miqraw/convocation… It is an atzereth/solemn assembly… 39 …a shabbathōn/special sabbath. This seventh and final sacred assembly day concludes the religious festival cycle. This seventh and final sacred assembly day concludes the religious festival cycle. The Law of Moses provides no information about it other than the phrase “the eighth day.” Early Church leaders such as Barnabus, Irenaeus, and Hippolytus, undoubtedly influenced by an earlier Hebraic tradition, taught that this world will exist for 7000 years. The last 1000 years – “the Millennium” of Revelation 20 – will constitute this worldʼs sabbath-rest: the Messianic Kingdom Age of peace. Cf. Heb. 4:4-9; 2 Pet. 3:8; Ps. 90:4. At the end of the Millennium, John saw Revelation 20:11 …a great white throne and the One sitting on it, from whose countenance the earth and the heaven fled away. … 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth… 2 and the holy city, the New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God… In a seven-day weekly cycle, the eighth day is also the first day of a new week. Such is the case here. Just as “God created the heavens and the earth…the first day” (Gen. 1:1, 5), so on the coming ʻsecond first dayʼ will He create 2 Peter 3:13 …new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. Isaiah 65:17 …And the former [heavens and earth] shall not be remembered [or, commemorated], and not ascend upon/over the heart. When God originally “laid the foundations of the earth…the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy.” Job 38:4, 7 When God “create…a new earth… Jerusalem [shall be] a rejoicing, and her people a joy.” Is. 65:17-18 That latter celebration is represented by the Feast of the Eighth Day. The Veiled and Unveiled Face In the body of man, the seventh and final sacred assembly day is represented by the brainʼs unveiled heavenly vision itself. By that eighth-millennium Day, the righteous among men will have become so purified and sanctified that for the very first time recorded in Scripture, the following is said of them – Revelation 22:4 They shall gaze upon His [Godʼs/the Fatherʼs] Face… – whereas formerly, menʼs visions of God have been limited to Ezekiel 1:28 …the appearance of the likeness of the Glory of the LORD. Numbers 12:8 …the form/similitude of the LORD. Exodus 33:20 [Because] He said, “You shall not be able to see My Face; for no man [Heb. adam: earthly man] shall see Me and live.” However, because of the sanctified state of the inhabitants of the New Jerusalem, all such representations and similitudes, even including the Tabernacle and Court, will no longer be required; therefore Revelation 21:22 …[there will be] no naos/sanctuary in it [the New Jerusalem], for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its sanctuary. Thus there is no need for any Scriptural information about the Eighth Day Feast other than its date. Conclusion This series of articles was able to provide merely a glimpse of the unitary nature of Creation in all of its levels and forms; all of which developed “in the beginning” out of the One Divine Word/One Divine Man. In each of these levels/worlds – light, spirit, soul, and flesh – the Divine Man has His Presence, taking form as Man according to the type of garment of that world. As also do the angelic sons of God in the garments of their worlds. And as will do the redeemed and made-righteous Adamic sons of God, after they have completed their discipleship in the Way of Salvation. God commanded that Way to be represented in type by the Tabernacle and Court, and by His appointed Holy Days associated with them. THE STRIKE THROUGHS ARE A GLITCH OF THIS SYSTEM, WHICH I AM UNABLE TO REMOVE.
  14. WilliamL

    BLOOD MOON and TU B'SHVAT

    not true, not even close.
  15. WilliamL

    PRETERISM THE NEW FRONTIER

    Daniel 12:2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt. John 5:28 “Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation." Obviously the Sanhedrin that condemned Jesus will be among these. Only three disciples saw Jesus transfigured. The rest died before they get their chance to see it at the Second Coming.
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