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WilliamL last won the day on March 1 2016
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Nonsense. It is about a whole lot more than the Messiah. Major chapters, such as 8 and 11, never even hint of the Messiah. And He is only briefly mentioned in Daniel 9.
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While I applaud the many truths of your message, this statement is not actually correct. Trump pledged to "drain the swamp." Not only did he not do so, under his administration it actually grew. Because Trump was too susceptible to flattery to discern friends from frenemies, and appointed loads of swamp creatures to high positions in Justice, the FBI, military, and other places, including his first two chiefs of staff. So unless he designates before the election the PEOPLE he will place in positions of power, I can't trust that he won't screw up as badly this time as last. Because I don't see at this time that his basic nature has changed.
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Probably the most relevant, for our day, mistranslated verse is Daniel 12:11, where practically all translations leave out the preposition "to" [לָ] before 'set up'; the words literally mean "to the placing of an abomination of desolation..."
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Your presumption. Verse 27 says nothing at all about the Messiah. The vav-consecutive that begins the verse directly relates the narrative to the nagyd that destroys Jerusalem and the Temple in verse 26b.
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The Gospel stories about Jesus start before that first mentioned Passover, but His actual public ministry started at that time. Events before then were private affairs.
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Agreed. Also agreed. The context is the Great Tribulation, the escape refers to "all these [very bad] things" that will take place during the GT. Which the Church must go through. Many will be martyred, but apparently most of the elect/chosen won't. It is only "immediately after the tribulation of those days" [Mt. 24:29] that the Parousia of Christ will take place [24:3, 27], that bringing the resurrection of the dead [1 Cor. 15:23, 51-54; 1 Thes. 4:14] and the rapture of the chosen [1 Thes. 4:17].
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Matthew Henry wrote well over 300 years ago, and his understanding of Egyptian history is badly dated. Have you read Velikovsky's Ramses II and His Time? Suffice it to say, Egypt was not desolate for 40 years during the time Henry claims, nor was the river at all dried up, and no amount of allegorizing-away the End Time prophecies of Ezekiel and Isaiah about Egypt is justified. These things are yet to be fulfilled in actuality. Soon. Jesus will come at His Parousia, the time of the resurrection of the dead and the rapture. Immediately after which, the period of the wrath of God [which begins at Rev. 6:17] will cover 40 years. But once Jesus' Presence enters back into the world, He will not leave being involved in it. All explained in a number of my blogs, the most detailed series here: 48. The End Times and the Exodus, Part 1 First of a four-part series that shows how the events of the Israelite Exodus out of Egypt, and their subsequent wilderness sojourn and conquest of Canaan, allegorically portray in great detail the full sequence of events surrounding the Second Coming of Christ. Begins with the Seven Spirits. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/1980-the-end-times-and-the-exodus-part-1/ 49. The End Times and the Exodus, Part 2 The Seven Seals. https://worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/1992-the-end-times-and-the-exodus-part-2/ 50.The End Times and the Exodus, Part 3 The Seven Trumpets. https://worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2027-the-end-times-and-the-exodus-part-3/ 51. The End Times and the Exodus, Part 4 The Seven Bowls. https://worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2069-the-end-times-and-the-exodus-part-4/
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Those passages don't say what you claim they do. The OT says absolutely nothing about the Church. Luke 21:34 “But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. 35 For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” Verse 36 says that there are those who will be able " to escape all these things." As does 1 Thes. 5:1-9 The "standing before the Son of Man" takes place for "the ones coming out of the great tribulation." Rev. 7:9, 14 The GT precedes the Wrath.
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Entirely unhistorical claims, having nothing to do with the scriptures I cited. But you may believe whatever you like.
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Short answer: there is a difference between the elect of the Church who will be removed before the wrath, and the non-elect of Israel who will go through it.
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Just because so-called Messianic Judaism is increasing means that they have a lock on salvation. There are lots of false doctrines, infightings, and struggles for dominance amongst the Messianic leaders. They do a lot of (often-justified) finger-pointing at non-Messianic Christians, but they too often cannot see the logs in their own eyes. So stick to actual Biblical doctrine, and flee from prideful posing and boasting.
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All of these OT prophecies refer to "the great day of His wrath." Rev. 6:17 But the Lord will deliver the elect of His people, His bridal company, immediately before that Wrath begins to be poured out. 1 Thes. 5:9 For God did not appoint us to wrath...
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The Beast will kill the Two Witnesses, yes, but nothing Revelation 11 says he attacks Jerusalem. You're putting into the passage something that is not there. Something that you do a lot of.
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If no one gets 270 delegates, the next President will be elected by the House of Representatives.
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First, defending one's own territory is not the same, by far, as "reign[ing] over the kings of the earth.” Second, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt had inferior armies. Third, Israel only prevailed due to military equipment provided by other countries, the US being by far the majorsupplier. Israel would have been overrun by sheer numbers otherwise. Fourth, Israel by no means reigns over China, Russia, the US, and a multitude of other foreign powers. Reality check.