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Thank You all for your input! As a new believer I am finding out, as I get to know God better and my relationship with Him grows, He really doesn't work in "mysterious" ways, it's right there in front of me! It's been awhile since I went to that service and I haven't been back to that chuch. There is no doubt in my mind that it's the right thing to do.

My son pointed this out to me today: Acts 2:14-21 What I get out of this is that we will all prophesy, not just a chosen few. My instincts are still more on the "beware" side of the service I attended the other night. 14Then Peter stood up with the Eleven, raised his voice and addressed the crowd: "Fellow Jews and all of you who live in Jerusalem, let me explain this to you; listen carefully to what I say. 15These men are not drunk, as you suppose. It's only nine in the morning! 16No, this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 17" 'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19I will show wonders in the heaven above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 20The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. 21And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.'[c]

It doesn't matter what other people THINK...what matters is only what the Bible says...I thought that my post had some very clear Bible verses, but search out your own answers in the Bible. The Bible is where the only complete truths can be found. You are very right that it doesn't matter what people think. It is in fact, the truth that is written in the Bible. Thank You for making me realize this! Really! I went back and read your post again. I have also been doing some searching on my own and allot of praying. My intuition tells me to stay away. I would like to add that when my friend asked me what I thought I was honest and told him I was uncomfortable and didn't plan on returning. He said that when he first started going there he felt the same way but over time got "used" to it. I feel that when a person walks into a church (any church) should feel at home, it's really not a place you should have to get used to.

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Please don't get me wrong, I am not judging. I am just searching. I realize many people believe in different ways what is real and what is not. Some things are very CLEAR in the bible and some are not, this subject is definitely one of those that is not really clear. As I read through all the posts I'm realizing just how different everyone thinks.

The accusation about the apostles being drunk was not due to their acting strange, but simply that they were speaking in different languages. There is no mention of any other reason for the charge. Agree that the message must be Biblical, but there is absolutely no scriptural support for people acting like that when they actually get saved. There is much more support for these reactions being demonic, and for any speaker to condone such things should be a warning sign. Not all who preach the gospel are doing so from pure motives, and so far no one has relayed what the content of the message was that prompted these reactions. How do we know these people were truly saved at all? And yes, we should look at "the man", the teacher/speaker, because God will hold them to a higher standard. Paul's letters on how to choose elders give a high and strict standard for them, requiring that they be tested. The message was of his dream/vision of being before God and how Jesus tore the pages out of his "book of life" (the speakers) and nailed them to the cross. Then Jesus went back to the book where there was 1 page remaining with the speakers name on it and Jesus then washed that page with the blood on His hands. It really was a powerful message, it was the way people were acting/yelling that made me very uncomfortable. It was something I had never seen before. Nor have I read anything in the Bible that would lead me to believe that this was genuine. I've been praying that God give me "clarity" and so far I get the feeling that I will never return to that church.

I attended a service last night that a friend invited me to. It was at a place called "Healing Room Ministries". The speaker said he was a Prophet. He said God speaks to him. He said he had a vision or a dream about being taken to the Cross and watching Jesus wash away the sins in his "book of life" with His (Jesus's) blood. I am i fairly new believer as some of you already know. Right now, and throughout the service last night all I could think of was how the Bible tells us to beware of false Prophets and Teachers. I don't think God literally speaks to us. I believe how he speaks to us is more in directing and showing us. Am I way off here? Confusion is not something I handle well. I need clarity. Also at this service I saw some strange things and people do strange things I have never seen before. There was a couple of men in the audience that were jerking around and yelling. Especially when the speaker said something that the audience thought to be a powerful statement. Then the speaker called upon a couple of people in the crowd (by name so he knew them), they walked forward and I can't even explain what happened next. He (the speaker) put his hands on these people and said something, i can't remember what exactly and the people would pass out and fall to the floor! I can't even begin to tell you how uncomfortable this made me. Scared me actually. I had three other friends with me and they all felt the same way. The friend that invited us truely believes the this is all true. He says that the people in the audience that were jerking around and yelling were speaking from the Holy Spirit. That they couldn't stop it if they wanted to. I know it says in Scripture that when the Holy Spirit enters we may (at least back then) speak in tongues or laguages we have never learned. There was no foriegn langauges spoken here, just a bunch of yelling and literally "flopping" around. My "gut" feeling on this is, it was not real, although these people, including my friend (the one who invited us) believe it. I'm asking for some help here! Please! Scripture based or even some opinions. Thank You!

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Mark 11:23 "I tell you the truth, if anyone says to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart but believes that what he says will happen, it will be done for him. James 1:5-7 5If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him. 6But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord; Ask God to show himself to you. Have faith in His great love for you. He IS there, and you will find Him if you seek Him. Tell Him about your doubts, He understands.

Ok, this sounds really weird but for the last few days on my computer when the word God is in a sentence it looks like this: G-d. It doesn't matter what website I'm looking at, the o is a -. (not just any o, only when in the word God.) The first time I noticed it, it was here on a post someone wrote. I had thought that maybe the o on their key board was broken. Then off and on I would notice the same thing more in different places. tonight I went to check out a site someone suggested and there it was again! This time the word Lord looked like this: L-rd and also G-d! I'm I going crazy?!!!!

I am a fairly new believer and have not done alot of "studying" the Bible. I have read most all of the OT and most of the NT. In the OT God makes it VERY clear not to "mess with" His Holy Land! Is Roberts right on this one? I believe he is. Even if Sharon is 77 and in poor health God Himself is at the controls. I am going to do some "googling" and see what I can find. This is something that really intrests me! Is it in the Bible? I have not yet learned to read between the lines yet and this a good subject to start with.

BellaRose I couldn't help but think as I read the above that if you put the word America where the word Australia is they are much the same.

1 Peter 3:21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also